Flightradar24 Thread Part II

Foggy43 · 08-02-2015 01:16PM

Fog! Visibility down to 500m.

weisses · 08-02-2015 01:54PM

Kerry closed ?

http://www.flightradar24.com/RYR57/578a29f

edit:seems holding for some reason

JCX BXC · 08-02-2015 02:11PM

weisses wrote: »

Kerry closed ?

http://www.flightradar24.com/RYR57/578a29f

edit:seems holding for some reason

Fog.

That ryanair is going from DUB-KIR due to the HHN-KIR being diverted to DUB this morning. It appears the fog hasn't cleared enough. Its descending now though.

Foggy43 · 08-02-2015 02:17PM

Yes Fog! Visibility currently down to 400m

JCX BXC · 08-02-2015 02:19PM

Foggy43 wrote: »

Yes Fog! Visibility currently down to 400m

My god the idea of fog seems to excite you.

Where are you getting your visibility stats?

Foggy43 · 08-02-2015 02:24PM

An App called Aeroweather Pro

JCX BXC · 08-02-2015 02:24PM

Landed safely.

JCX BXC · 08-02-2015 03:23PM

Alot of diversions today! Visibility at SNN very poor, 200m. Fog increasing here in West Clare too, I cannot see further then 100m here.

arubex · 08-02-2015 03:36PM

BBJ westbound over Drogheda, out of Amsterdam

http://fr24.com/N721UF/578bd5b

One of the Fertitta subsidiaries, Zuffa, runs the Ultimate Fighting series, hence the registration I assume.

highlydebased · 08-02-2015 03:59PM

Airborne SNN

First European trip of EI 757! Operating SNN-FCO-DUB-SNN bringing rugby team back later on

JCX BXC · 08-02-2015 04:02PM

highlydebased wrote: »

Airborne SNN

First European trip of EI 757! Operating SNN-FCO-DUB-SNN bringing rugby team back later on

I stood up and went to the window to look out as I can sometimes see the planes from Shannon, but I couldnt see the house next door.

Who brought the rugby team to Rome?

CIA-SNN will be returning soon also.

Evan_M · 08-02-2015 04:05PM

CFG156 Frankfurt to Cancun squawking 7700 diverting to Nantes it looks like.

billie1b · 08-02-2015 04:16PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

I stood up and went to the window to look out as I can sometimes see the planes from Shannon, but I couldnt see the house next door.

Who brought the rugby team to Rome?

CIA-SNN will be returning soon also.

Cityjet for the UK and France

Aer Lingus and Ryanair for further afield, if the Shamrock is bringing them home it more than likely brought them over too.

adam88 · 08-02-2015 04:56PM

Any idea whsts the story with the low fling aircraft possibly 737 or 319 flying very low near kerry airport but is not landing and is flying bout a mile or two parallel to the runway in the last 10-15 mins

Foggy43 · 08-02-2015 05:11PM

It is a Ryanair B737 from London Stansted. The fog at Kerry airport is putting the flight in to a hold. Visibility is down to 400 metres.

Update: RYR701 has diverted to Cork

arubex · 08-02-2015 07:50PM

Righto, what's this about. EI-DER did a rotation from Dublin to Rome and back this morning as EIN2410 / 2411.

Out at 05:30, on ground 40 mins and back in Dublin by 12:50.

Aer Lingus timetable shows EIN2411 starting and ending today but with no corresponding EIN2410 outbound ???

EI2411 	1010 	1220 	- - - - - - S 	08-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015

Aaaahhhh - rugby? That would explain all these oddball services that run over this weekend only...

Dublin to Rome:

EI2404 	0850 	1255 	- - - - F - S 	06-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
EI2406 	1650 	2055 	- - - - F - - 	06-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
EI2408 	1200 	1605 	- - - T F - - 	05-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
	        1500 	1855 	M - - - - - - 	09-Feb-2015 	09-Feb-2015

Rome to Dublin:

EI2405 	1350 	1610 	- - - - - - S 	06-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
EI2407 	2210 	0030 * 	- - - - F - S 	06-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
EI2409 	1750 	2010 	- - - - - - S 	05-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
	        1945 	2210 	M - - - - - - 	09-Feb-2015 	09-Feb-2015

JCX BXC · 08-02-2015 08:09PM

arubex wrote: »
Righto, what's this about. EI-DER did a rotation from Dublin to Rome and back this morning as EIN2410 / 2411.

Out at 05:30, on ground 40 mins and back in Dublin by 12:50.

Aer Lingus timetable shows EIN2411 starting and ending today but with no corresponding EIN2410 outbound ???
EI2411 	1010 	1220 	- - - - - - S 	08-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
Aaaahhhh - rugby? That would explain all these oddball services that run over this weekend only...

Dublin to Rome:
EI2404 	0850 	1255 	- - - - F - S 	06-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
EI2406 	1650 	2055 	- - - - F - - 	06-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
EI2408 	1200 	1605 	- - - T F - - 	05-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
	        1500 	1855 	M - - - - - - 	09-Feb-2015 	09-Feb-2015
Rome to Dublin:
EI2405 	1350 	1610 	- - - - - - S 	06-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
EI2407 	2210 	0030 * 	- - - - F - S 	06-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
EI2409 	1750 	2010 	- - - - - - S 	05-Feb-2015 	08-Feb-2015
	        1945 	2210 	M - - - - - - 	09-Feb-2015 	09-Feb-2015

Sorry now, but if you had read the posts in the fourm you would have realised pretty quick that it was rugby. You corrected your mistake but still.......

Its strange to have so many rugby charters though, Ryanair and Aerlingus both operating plenty of services.

adam88 · 08-02-2015 08:11PM

Foggy43 wrote: »

It is a Ryanair B737 from London Stansted. The fog at Kerry airport is putting the flight in to a hold. Visibility is down to 400 metres.

Update: RYR701 has diverted to Cork

Does KIR not have ils???? Thought a plane could land in fog if there was ils

JCX BXC · 08-02-2015 08:13PM

adam88 wrote: »

Does KIR not have ils???? Thought a plane could land in fog if there was ils

Depends on the fog. Cork has awful problems with fog too, just not today.

On another note, Met Eireann have issued an orange fog warning, it might make aviation interesting this evening.

calibratedtool · 08-02-2015 08:28PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

I stood up and went to the window to look out as I can sometimes see the planes from Shannon, but I couldnt see the house next door.

Who brought the rugby team to Rome?

CIA-SNN will be returning soon also.

Due to a late mx output ACL was asked to step-in with the 757. The normal BOS had been cancelled a few weeks ago due to low load.

arubex · 08-02-2015 08:36PM

adam88 wrote: »

Does KIR not have ils???? Thought a plane could land in fog if there was ils

From looking at the instrument approach chart I believe it only has Cat I ILS ( runway visual range > 800 metres ).

http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/aip_eiky_charts.htm

whereas Cork has Cat II ( RVR 350 metres )

http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/aip_eick_charts.htm

The most-awesome category, certified in very few places and with even fewer aircraft capable of using it, is Cat IIIC which theoretically has no forward or vertical visibility; in practice you need some visibility to vacate the runway.

The TriStar was equipped with Cat IIIC kit and initially used it on occasion but few airlines maintained the capability due to training and maintenance costs.

The 737NG comes as standard with IIIA ( IIIB is an extra-charge option ) and often airlines will accept equipment degredation to Cat II as that's sufficient for most operations.

JCX BXC · 08-02-2015 09:03PM

U2468 abandoned approach at Belfast alder-grove (BFS) due to heavy fog.

jimbis · 08-02-2015 09:31PM

Was just out for a walk around sandyford/stepaside and I could see 5 planes holding out at Sorin. First time seeing that many holding so clearly, all circling at the same rate (Almost like a display:P) So clear out this way tonight.

JCX BXC · 08-02-2015 09:40PM

A Jet2 757-200 from Rome-Fuimicino is on approach to Dublin, the third Jet2 I have seen today doing a charter from FCO-DUB.

Due to fog, extensive holding is taking place at Dublin this evening. Belfast-International has similar problems.

A Mid-East Jet (B767) from Larnaca is holding outside Shannon for some unknown reason, FR109 just landed and there is no fog at SNN according to my source (Aeroweather android app)

There has been several irish diversions today, including FR7257 (MAD-DUB) (Probably due to long holding lines at dub), FR5705 (HHN-NOC) (Due to fog) and FR805 (STN-NOC) (Due to fog)

Some cancellations also due to fog.

Irish Steve · 08-02-2015 09:52PM

arubex wrote: »

From looking at the instrument approach chart I believe it only has Cat I ILS ( runway visual range > 800 metres ).

http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/aip_eiky_charts.htm

whereas Cork has Cat II ( RVR 350 metres )

http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/aip_eick_charts.htm

The most-awesome category, certified in very few places and with even fewer aircraft capable of using it, is Cat IIIC which theoretically has no forward or vertical visibility; in practice you need some visibility to vacate the runway.

The TriStar was equipped with Cat IIIC kit and initially used it on occasion but few airlines maintained the capability due to training and maintenance costs.

The 737NG comes as standard with IIIA ( IIIB is an extra-charge option ) and often airlines will accept equipment degredation to Cat II as that's sufficient for most operations.

I may be wrong on this, for many years, the only place that had 3C was Heathrow, and it requires a wire guidance system embedded in the taxiways to guide the aircraft to the stand. Most CAT 3 is 3A, simply because of the cost to the airline of retaining the currency for operational use, and the cost to the airfield operator of the extra equipment required to support CAT 3 operations, such as 1 second response standby for runway lighting.

The first CAT 3 aircraft was the Caravelle, closely followed by the Trident, I know one of the engineers that was involved in the work on certifying the aircraft equipment on the Trident, and it was a challenging scenario. The aircraft requirements are very significant, 3 autopilots with separate power systems, among others, and everything has to be working for a CAT3 approach. The most challenging scenario is a CAT 3 approach flown using HUG (Head Up guidance), where the pilot is flying the aircraft using head up guidance equipment. I've not flown one for real, but as part of some simulator research work, we flew a number of 737 NG HUG landings in a sim at Dallas, and the pressure is intense!

Dublin has recently upgraded some of the Low vis systems, which are another part of the overall picture, 2 new radar heads and the vehicles that can operate on the airfield can now be tracked (and are visible on Flightradar24)

arubex · 08-02-2015 10:22PM

I didn't know about the Caravelle and Cat III. Thanks! Clever Frogs.

Found this in Flight:

The Air Inter Caravelle 12s have seating for 128. The air-
craft is equipped with the same Category 3a (50ft decision
height—500ft RVR) Sud-Lear all-weather landing system as
the Caravelle Ills.

The airline was authorised on November 25, 1968, by the
French civil aviation authority, SGAC, to make Category 3a
landings (with the single-channel system) in commercial
service, and a Caravelle of Air Inter on a scheduled flight
from Lyons ito Paris performed t h e type's first entirely auto-
matic landing in low visibility on January 9, 1969.

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1974/1974%20-%201705.html

kub · 08-02-2015 11:03PM

As can be expected fog issues have begun in Cork. EI877 in hold and RYR 905 on go around

aka accounts 2010 · 08-02-2015 11:04PM

kub wrote: »

As can be expected fog issues have begun in Cork.

FR905 go around at Cork....very foggy here in Cork at the moment. Very poor visibility!

kub · 08-02-2015 11:06PM

Both are in the hold now.

JCX BXC · 08-02-2015 11:07PM

2 jets circling at ORK. I have the Live ATC up now.
What are conditions like in dublin for this evening?

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