Limerick school apologises for Charlie Hebdo

Boring username · 06-02-2015 09:11AM #1

A school has apologised to a Muslim pupil who took offence when a copy of the controversial French magazine 'Charlie Hebdo' was produced during a class.

The mother of the 11-year-old boy, who is in fifth class, has said that she was outraged after learning about the incident at Limerick School Project on O'Connell Avenue in Limerick city.

The magazine was produced by a student during a discussion on the French Revolution and freedom of speech.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/school-apologises-to-muslim-pupil-over-charlie-hebdo-in-class-30968831.html

Je suis Charlie indeed. Can someone tell me where I can purchase one of these "offence" cards? They sound like a great way of bullying the public into doing what I say.

What are your opinions on the actions of the school? Do you think they were right or wrong in their actions.

Vomit · 06-02-2015 09:13AM

One of their cartoonists was busted for Anti-Semitism in the past. Stupid publication for morons.

Timberrrrrrrr · 06-02-2015 09:16AM

Boring username wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/school-apologises-to-muslim-pupil-over-charlie-hebdo-in-class-30968831.html

Je suis Charlie indeed. Can someone tell me where I can purchase one of these "offence" cards? They sound like a great way of bullying the public into doing what I say.

What are your opinions on the actions of the school? Do you think they were right or wrong in their actions.

Teacher is a gob****e and should have known, saying that the childs mother overreacted and i don't think the school should have apologized.

Love this bit

Nonetheless, he said the multi-denominational school, which has more than 200 pupils, believes in the right to freedom of speech.

Mr Allen said they can't control everything that children bring into the school, "nor do we want to".

I wonder what his position would be if the child had bought in a porno mag.

kneemos · 06-02-2015 09:19AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Teacher is a gob****e and should have known, saying that the childs mother overreacted and i don't think the school should have apologized.

Love this bit

I wonder what his position would be if the child had bought in a porno mag.

Worst "what if"ever.

Cabaal · 06-02-2015 09:20AM

Vomit wrote: »

One of their cartoonists was busted for Anti-Semitism in the past. Stupid publication for morons.

The magazine went after every major religion, Muslim, Catholics, Jewish etc. They are all fair game.

A religious belief is only an idea and no idea deserves special protection or rights,

assigning special protection and exemptions to religious ideas is what causes the likes of Catholic ethos schools in Ireland to basically have the right to sack teachers for being gay or lesbian people as they (the schools) are exempt from certain parts of legislation .... Cause it goes against their Catholic ethos

Vomit · 06-02-2015 09:24AM

Cabaal wrote: »

The magazine went after every major religion, Muslim, Catholics, Jewish etc. They are all fair game.

A religious belief is only an idea and no idea deserves special protection or rights,

assigning special protection and exemptions to religious ideas is what causes the likes of Catholic ethos schools in Ireland to basically have the right to sack teachers for being gay or lesbian people as they (the schools) are exempt from certain parts of legislation .... Cause it goes against their Catholic ethos

From 2009:

French cartoonist Sine on trial on charges of anti-Semitism over Sarkozy jibe

A Left-wing cartoonist is to go on trial on Tuesday on charges of anti-Semitism for suggesting Jean Sarkozy, the son of the French president, was converting to Judaism for financial reasons.

You think they were wrong to fire him and for him to face trial? All bigotry is disgusting.

percy212 · 06-02-2015 09:25AM

Free speech is a current topic that is rightly of interest to educators. I see nothing wrong with examining that magazine during class. It should spark debate and critical thinking in students, skills we need in our population. Muslim students can debate too.

anncoates · 06-02-2015 09:27AM

Do all the kids there sit around in 5th class chuckling about the religious foibles of others?

They'll be a shoo-in for boards membership the minute they can grow their own neckbeards.

Gatling · 06-02-2015 09:28AM

School should have never apologised if anything they should have defended the freedom of speech you get the sense the mother is making it sound worse than it is

wendell borton · 06-02-2015 09:28AM

They were having a discussion on freedom of speech and the French revolution, in that context don't see how it should cause of fence. School shouldn't have apologized.

BoJack Horseman · 06-02-2015 09:31AM

wendell borton wrote: »

They were having a discussion on freedom of speech and the French revolution, in that context don't see how it should cause of fence. School shouldn't have apologized.

The principal would have been figuratively crucified by Islams quislings in the media & online.

No point losing your job over.

touts · 06-02-2015 09:40AM

If you send your child to an educate together school you should be ready to have them exposed to such radical ideas like free speech, open debate and secular non-religious opinions. If you want the imposition of religious doctrine (be it the angelus or saying a prayer before class or not displaying photos of your prophet) then you should go to a religious school.

Timberrrrrrrr · 06-02-2015 09:47AM

kneemos wrote: »

Worst "what if"ever.

You would be ok with a child bringing a porno mag to school to show your kids? Would you not be offended?

conorhal · 06-02-2015 09:50AM

Cabaal wrote: »

The magazine went after every major religion, Muslim, Catholics, Jewish etc. They are all fair game.

A religious belief is only an idea and no idea deserves special protection or rights,

assigning special protection and exemptions to religious ideas is what causes the likes of Catholic ethos schools in Ireland to basically have the right to sack teachers for being gay or lesbian people as they (the schools) are exempt from certain parts of legislation .... Cause it goes against their Catholic ethos

Ah yes the problem here in an Educate Together school is of course the Catholic church.

'Even when it was the bears, I knew it was the Catholics!' :rolleyes:

bjork · 06-02-2015 09:50AM

Nothing like educating them have a a victim complex early on

Sittingpretty · 06-02-2015 09:54AM

touts wrote: »

If you send your child to an educate together school you should be ready to have them exposed to such radical ideas like free speech, open debate and secular non-religious opinions. If you want the imposition of religious doctrine (be it the angelus or saying a prayer before class or not displaying photos of your prophet) then you should go to a religious school.

This. Agree completely.

I'm from Limerick and I know this school very well.

Am surprised they veered from their ethos.

yipeeeee · 06-02-2015 10:03AM

What a pathetic pushover of a nation we are, pander to anyone who has a slight problem with our beliefs and values.

bjork · 06-02-2015 10:05AM

I find it interesting the woman chose to stay anonymous

Not enough belief and conviction in your religion to stand public misses?

Mint Sauce · 06-02-2015 10:08AM

Was the mother not just defending her free speech though.

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Seriously though, hope the lesson also included our blasphemy law considering the usual content of Charlie Hebdo.

conorhal · 06-02-2015 10:12AM

yipeeeee wrote: »

What a pathetic pushover of a nation we are, pander to anyone who has a slight problem with our beliefs and values.

Well we won't have to worry about it once the Clongriffin ghetto has been built so that they can live, shop and school their children without the contaminating influences of Irish society. I'm sure that will fix everything.

BoJack Horseman · 06-02-2015 10:17AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You would be ok with a child bringing a porno mag to school to show your kids? Would you not be offended?

That happened loads of times!!

There would be a frenzy around a lads locker as everyone gathered for a gander at a skin mag brought in..... or the class room if the teacher was particularly dozy.

Nobody cried to mommy & we got on with our lives.

The Backwards Man · 06-02-2015 10:17AM

Haha!! I thought this might have been a thread about who gave an 11year old a copy of Charlie Hebdo and what their intentions were for doing it, but, silly me, it's another big bad Muslim thread. Hilarious.

somesoldiers · 06-02-2015 10:26AM

The biggest surprise for me out of all the Charlie Hebdo was that the French have a sense of humour

SeanW · 06-02-2015 10:33AM

At times like this, don't you just feel so "enriched" by "diversity" and multiculturalism?

MonkeyTennis · 06-02-2015 10:34AM

In all seriousness. I have been alive for over 4 decades and I have yet to offended by anything

What am I doing wrong ?

RWCNT · 06-02-2015 10:35AM

Fair play to her.

Charlie Hebdo is offensive crap, I'm an atheist and I wouldn't want someone showing my kids that crap either.

Getting pretty tiresome seeing people bleat about their beloved "freedom of speech" and showing no grasp of the responsibilities that come with it. Also funny how people think the fact that ****-rag was offensive towards every religion somehow makes it acceptable.

bjork · 06-02-2015 10:37AM

SeanW wrote: »

At times like this, don't you just feel so "enriched" by "diversity" and multiculturalism?

Lets all bang on bin lids to celebrate our diversity

(Hey you at the back, no rhythm please, that's offensive)

Grayson · 06-02-2015 10:40AM

conorhal wrote: »

Ah yes the problem here in an Educate Together school is of course the Catholic church.

'Even when it was the bears, I knew it was the Catholics!' :rolleyes:

To be fair when I was in school we had religion classes most days. We were told that sex before marriage was wrong, contraception was the equivalent of killing babies, homosexuality is unnatural and an insult to God, the Pope has a direct line to God & the catholic church is the only true church.

Saying anything offensive about the Pope or the catholic church would have resulted in a suspension. So would possessing any form of contraception.

Yes, muslims can be over sensitive about their religion but they hardly have a monopoly on it.

Gatling · 06-02-2015 10:42AM

RWCNT wrote: »

Fair play to her.

Charlie Hebdo is offensive crap, I'm an atheist and I wouldn't want someone showing my kids that crap either.

Getting pretty tiresome seeing people bleat about their beloved "freedom of speech" and showing no grasp of the responsibilities that come with it. Also funny how people think the fact that ****-rag was offensive towards every religion somehow makes it acceptable.

It's perfectly acceptable

Grayson · 06-02-2015 10:44AM

RWCNT wrote: »

Fair play to her.

Charlie Hebdo is offensive crap, I'm an atheist and I wouldn't want someone showing my kids that crap either.

Getting pretty tiresome seeing people bleat about their beloved "freedom of speech" and showing no grasp of the responsibilities that come with it. Also funny how people think the fact that ****-rag was offensive towards every religion somehow makes it acceptable.

Most people are in favour of freedom of speech until they hear something that they find personally offensive.

Like the pope said about insulting his mother. Yes, freedom of speech allows me to walk up and insult someone's mother. Just because I'm free to do it doesn't mean I'm not being a dick when I do it. And really I have to expect that if I do it often enough someone will eventually punch me in the face.

That's not excusing violence. Violence is wrong. I'm just saying that eventually someone will punch me in the face.

bleg · 06-02-2015 10:47AM

I'm offended by her offence. I await an apology.

Limerick school apologises for Charlie Hebdo

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