Cork farmer allowed pigs eat each other alive

StewartGriffin · 04-02-2015 09:24PM

Yeah, have to say I agree with the jokers here.

It's madness how people get so worked up over a few pigs. It's like that thread about the fat little dog being burned alive. Come on, who really gives a f***?

They're just animals. We're much better than them.

:cool:

goose2005 · 04-02-2015 09:32PM

StewartGriffin wrote: »

They're just animals. We're much better than them.

[citation needed]

darkpagandeath · 04-02-2015 09:33PM

StewartGriffin wrote: »

Yeah, have to say I agree with the jokers here.

It's madness how people get so worked up over a few pigs. It's like that thread about the fat little dog being burned alive. Come on, who really gives a f***?

They're just animals. We're much better than them.

:cool:

No the dog did not set itself on fire, But pigs do actual eat each other use that thing called the internet to find out.

StewartGriffin · 04-02-2015 09:34PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

No the dog did not set itself on fire, But pigs do actual eat each other use that thing called the internet to find out.

You're missing the point, humans eat each other too, so what? Use that thing called the internet to find out.

StewartGriffin · 04-02-2015 09:35PM

goose2005 wrote: »

[citation needed]

God's a human being isn't he?

marklazarcovic · 04-02-2015 09:36PM

pigception

My name is URL · 04-02-2015 09:41PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

No the dog did not set itself on fire, But pigs do actual eat each other use that thing called the internet to find out.

Not on a commercial and properly run farm they don't.

You're focusing to much on the headline, which I just copied from the IT.

Did you even read the article? =/

Rory O’Brien pleaded guilty to five charges including that he failed to prevent unnecessary suffering by failing to treat or euthanise some animals

This didn't just happen because 'it's something pigs do', it happens because the animals are either left to starve or die amongst other animals.

whupdedo · 04-02-2015 09:43PM

"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals "

04-02-2015 09:44PM

StewartGriffin wrote: »

You're missing the point, humans eat each other too, so what? Use that thing called the internet to find out.

I'm not coming to any of your parties

StewartGriffin · 04-02-2015 09:47PM

bluewolf wrote: »

I'm not coming to any of your parties

Come to think of it, neither does anyone else, any more. Hmmm...

BBJBIG · 04-02-2015 09:48PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Glad you can all see the funny side of a commercial farmer treating animals in such a way and then selling them on to you =p

If this was a thread about kids in an estate owning a horse there'd be 3 pages of outrage already with people calling for blood.

Well ... I think we should still Birch the Tool ...

Karl Stein · 04-02-2015 11:10PM

BreadnBuddha wrote: »

There are a few in here who should be fed to yer mans pigs for the jokes and puns being posted.

Do you really veal it's necessary to lambast me?

Dravokivich · 04-02-2015 11:23PM

StewartGriffin wrote: »

You're missing the point, humans eat each other too, so what? Use that thing called the internet to find out.

So what? Its eh, generally frowned upon ya know.

RobertKK · 05-02-2015 12:14AM

I was talking to an official from the department of agriculture last year and one of the things we talked about was animal neglect and cruelty.
The official said depression is often involved in these cases.
When it comes to this case, I'm not so sure this would be one of them.

neenam · 05-02-2015 12:52AM

Another article about the piggery back in 2011, stating that he was shutting down production on the Mitchelstown farm due to rising expenses and falling meat prices.

(I can't post links as a new user, the article from the indo is called "One of country's biggest pig farmers calls it quits")

Between problems with fish farms, so called "free range" chicken and eggs etc...what meat is ethical to eat in this country in regards to animal welfare these days?

skittles8710 · 05-02-2015 12:54AM

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05-02-2015 01:06AM

Can you imagine for a second what a pigs existence is like that is confined to a cage while being slowly eaten by other pigs. The absolute agony and terror.

If you think that's funny then you're a cūnt. End of.

kowloon · 05-02-2015 01:08AM

It's a good thing Irish courts treat animal abuse seriously. /sarcasm

Nekarsulm · 05-02-2015 01:47AM

Sergio Georgini wrote: »

Can you imagine for a second what a pigs existence is like that is confined to a cage while being slowly eaten by other pigs. The absolute agony and terror.

If you think that's funny then you're a cūnt. End of.

OK, a few facts about piggeries.
Pigs are not kept in cages like hens are. They are kept in warm, insulated clean pens, usually with smooth concrete walls and floors (easy to keep clean).
Their food is delivered into either trough's long enough for every pig to eat at the same time, or is provided ad. lib. in what is called a "wet and dry" feeder so there is never any rush or fighting to get at food . Its called a wet & dry because the meal is always there, and the pig operates a little spring loaded tap with its nose, to mix water with it, to the consistency they prefer.
Pigs are highly intelligent animals, and become bored and fractious if unhappy. Like bored humans they can start to pick on each other, and fighting can occur. Usually this takes the form of one pig biting the ends of anothers tail, and if it bleeds, this can easily cause a kind of blood lust to develop. I never saw actual cannibalism happen where a pig was eaten, but a stressed pig can have heart failure and die.
It is the duty of the farmer to make sure conditions are kept right, and that this scenario does not happen. There are play devices available for pigs to play with to alleviate boredom. Usually really tough football like objects. A used car tyre can give hours of fun to a pen of pigs. Mixing two pens together can /will cause fighting as they sort out a pecking order.
I don't know the details of what happened in this case the OP refers to, but obviously there is a major departure to normal husbandry.

05-02-2015 09:16AM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

OK, a few facts about piggeries.
Pigs are not kept in cages like hens are. They are kept in warm, insulated clean pens, usually with smooth concrete walls and floors (easy to keep clean).
Their food is delivered into either trough's long enough for every pig to eat at the same time, or is provided ad. lib. in what is called a "wet and dry" feeder so there is never any rush or fighting to get at food . Its called a wet & dry because the meal is always there, and the pig operates a little spring loaded tap with its nose, to mix water with it, to the consistency they prefer.
Pigs are highly intelligent animals, and become bored and fractious if unhappy. Like bored humans they can start to pick on each other, and fighting can occur. Usually this takes the form of one pig biting the ends of anothers tail, and if it bleeds, this can easily cause a kind of blood lust to develop. I never saw actual cannibalism happen where a pig was eaten, but a stressed pig can have heart failure and die.
It is the duty of the farmer to make sure conditions are kept right, and that this scenario does not happen. There are play devices available for pigs to play with to alleviate boredom. Usually really tough football like objects. A used car tyre can give hours of fun to a pen of pigs. Mixing two pens together can /will cause fighting as they sort out a pecking order.
I don't know the details of what happened in this case the OP refers to, but obviously there is a major departure to normal husbandry.

They're obviously not kept in small cages, you surely knew what I meant? Why you would feel the need to get pedantic over that point is beyond me.

I've seen images posted by animal rights groups of similar events, and they were far, far worse than a bite on the tail. Try half their side being eaten while they're still alive, unable to escape.

Thanks for the tangent though?

Nekarsulm · 05-02-2015 09:25AM

I can only go by what you post. Why use the word cage if you mean something else?
If your only experience of piggery conditions is watching activists youtube videos, you are hardly well informed. You seem to have a problem with any view not 100% in agreement with your own outlook. Referring to people using crude slang for the female re productary organ says a lot more about yourself than the people whose views you oppose.

05-02-2015 09:31AM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

I can only go by what you post. Why use the word cage if you mean something else?
If your only experience of piggery conditions is watching activists youtube videos, you are hardly well informed. You seem to have a problem with any view not 100% in agreement with your own outlook. Referring to people using crude slang for the female re productary organ says a lot more about yourself than the people whose views you oppose.

Are you for real? What's your stance on this even supposed to be? Are you pro the original farmer??

And I stand by what I said, if you think it's hilarious that pigs are kept in those conditions, you're a horrible, ignorant ****.

Nekarsulm · 05-02-2015 09:41AM

Sergio Georgini wrote: »

Are you for real? What's your stance on this even supposed to be? Are you pro the original farmer??

And I stand by what I said, if you think it's hilarious that pigs are kept in those conditions, you're a horrible, ignorant ****.

Very much for real. And try reading my post again . Slowly.
I realise After Hours is increasingly the domain of the angry and misogynistic, I just need it proven to me every now and then!

The Corinthian · 05-02-2015 10:50AM

Sergio Georgini wrote: »

Are you for real? What's your stance on this even supposed to be? Are you pro the original farmer??

His stance appears to be one of an individual who actually knows how pig farming is done and has sought to dispel a number of the inaccuracies that have been peddled by people who have likely never seen a pig outside of a supermarket.

If by not calling for the original farmer's lynching makes him pro that farmer, then I suppose he would be. Of course, such a definition would be the sort used by a mindless mob.

In reality he has not made any moral judgment, pro or against, the original farmer. He sought only to rectify the facts.

And I stand by what I said, if you think it's hilarious that pigs are kept in those conditions, you're a horrible, ignorant ****.

And given your response, you would betray yourself as starting from a position of ignorance and easily swept up by whatever pulls on your heart strings on the Internet, without bothering to verify what you're told and resorting to the most base and verbally violent response that a written medium will allow you because of a lack the intellectual sophistication to formulate a rational one.

Wossack · 05-02-2015 11:00AM

The Corinthian wrote: »

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And given your response, you would betray yourself as starting from a position of ignorance and easily swept up by whatever pulls on your heart strings on the Internet, without bothering to verify what you're told and resorting to the most base and verbally violent response that a written medium will allow you because of a lack the intellectual sophistication to formulate a rational one.

Handy link for you there Sergio - link

kneemos · 05-02-2015 11:12AM

The Corinthian wrote: »

His stance appears to be one of an individual who actually knows how pig farming is done and has sought to dispel a number of the inaccuracies that have been peddled by people who have likely never seen a pig outside of a supermarket.

If by not calling for the original farmer's lynching makes him pro that farmer, then I suppose he would be. Of course, such a definition would be the sort used by a mindless mob.

In reality he has not made any moral judgment, pro or against, the original farmer. He sought only to rectify the facts.

And given your response, you would betray yourself as starting from a position of ignorance and easily swept up by whatever pulls on your heart strings on the Internet, without bothering to verify what you're told and resorting to the most base and verbally violent response that a written medium will allow you because of a lack the intellectual sophistication to formulate a rational one.

Dude.

05-02-2015 11:50AM

Just because you're all agreeing with each other that it's a gas laugh for animals to endure that kind of torture, doesn't make you right.

It's sad, if anything.

Nekarsulm · 05-02-2015 12:12PM

If you want some factual information, ask away.
If you need to insult people not totally in tune with your viewpoint, join the EDF, Combat18, or suchlike.
Please read the last paragraph of my original post again.

steddyeddy · 05-02-2015 12:24PM

Cork/Kerry farmer in cruelty/shooting endangered species shocker.

The Backwards Man · 05-02-2015 12:26PM

I see nothing wrong with Sergio's post apart from the fact he used the word cage when he should have used pen. And a lot of pigs are kept in pens. They're not (usually) kept in battery farm conditions, but they're hardly roaming the Serengeti either.

And while some of the puns are funny, others are downright ignorant

Cork farmer allowed pigs eat each other alive

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