Ferguson Ariva 150

Finical · 01-01-2015 05:04PM

Sorted it all out now. Appreciate the help!

One last question anyone have the transponder for the setanta's?

Nowso · 01-01-2015 06:05PM

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AnCatDubh · 03-01-2015 11:46PM

Quick question re: the Ariva 150 and use of it's LNB Out.

If you have your satellite dish cable to the "LNB In" on the Ariva 150 box, and take a cable from the "LNB Out" on the Ariva 150 and connect this to the "LNB In" on an old Sky box - will the Sky box get the FTA channels?

If so, do both boxes then operate completely independent or is the resulting setup one where what can be viewed on the Sky box (fed from the "LNB Out" of the Ariva) is in some way dependent on what is being viewed on the Ariva? (I gather if you split a LNB Satellite cable and feed two receiver boxes that one becomes a master and one a slave dependent on what transponder the other is tuned to - eh, or something like that

)

Anyhow, any info on the above with this specific box would be much appreciated (I'm trying to decide between the Ariva 150 box and the Walker WP645TS-HD - the Walker hasn't a LNB out, so i'm trying to gauge would the Ariva allow me to continue to use the Sky box without installing a dual/quad LNB on the dish and additional cabling) - hope that all makes sense!

Thanks.

Nowso · 03-01-2015 11:58PM

your better of installing a quad lnb whatever . gives you more options as some double and triple tuners use 2 cables

Tony · 04-01-2015 12:12AM

Agreed, the lnb out is of little value in any receiver

Gollie · 08-01-2015 09:48PM

Quickie question:
My dad hates change, and would rather stick with his stone-age Sky (old non Plus,FTA only, SD only, no RTE) box.
Currently i've got a Ferguson 252 hooked up to the Saorview, and i've tested it successfully with the Freesat FTA channels successfully.
I'd rather we moved to 252 fulltime, better media support, HD, features, recording, custom firmware etc. so my plan is to gradually convert him over to the new box over a period of months once he gets used to it.

What's the best method/device for splitting the signal so we can switch back and forth between the two boxes on the one telly?
(They won't be connecting to any additional TVs)

Johnboy1951 · 08-01-2015 10:13PM

Does the TV not have two inputs? ...... one for each box ....

Gollie · 08-01-2015 10:15PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Does the TV not have two inputs? ...... one for each box ....

Yup - it's got multiple scart and HDMI inputs - it's the satellite cable from the dish that's the issue - i've only got one line - so i was wondering about getting a splitter or something - and looking for feedback from anyone on the pros, cons, and device recommendations

Tony · 08-01-2015 10:19PM

Not really recommended to split a satellite signal as it carries voltage and could damage either box. In the past there were isolating sat switches but i've not seen them in quite a while. Perhaps best with its own thread as this one is specifically for the ariva 150

Gollie wrote: »

Yup - it's got multiple scart and HDMI inputs - it's the satellite cable from the dish that's the issue - i've only got one line - so i was wondering about getting a splitter or something - and looking for feedback from anyone on the pros, cons, and device recommendations

martyc5674 · 09-01-2015 03:52PM

Gollie wrote: »

Yup - it's got multiple scart and HDMI inputs - it's the satellite cable from the dish that's the issue - i've only got one line - so i was wondering about getting a splitter or something - and looking for feedback from anyone on the pros, cons, and device recommendations

Try bringing your sat cable to your Ferguson box.
Then a short cable from the LNB out of your ferguson connected to the LNB in on your skybox.
(ive had mixed experiences doing this in the past...it doesnt always work)

Marty.

Avns1s · 09-01-2015 03:59PM

martyc5674 wrote: »

Try bringing your sat cable to your Ferguson box.
Then a short cable from the LNB out of your ferguson connected to the LNB in on your skybox.
(ive had mixed experiences doing this in the past...it doesnt always work)

Marty.

It's a waste of time IMO. You can't use both together and you run the risk of damaging both boxes.

Thurston? · 09-01-2015 04:39PM

Avns1s wrote: »

You can't use both together and you run the risk of damaging both boxes.

Surely the LNB loopthrough is designed to keep the LNB power supplies of each box isolated from each other?

Trying to use both together would be a bit of a pain though, as the box switched to horizontal polarity &/or high band will win any conflict over LNB control.

Avns1s · 09-01-2015 04:47PM

Thurston? wrote: »

Surely the LNB loopthrough is designed to keep the LNB power supplies of each box isolated from each other?

Trying to use both together would be a bit of a pain though, as the box switched to horizontal polarity &/or high band will win any conflict over LNB control.

Several boxes I have seen carry printed warnings stating the box is to be powered down before powering up a box connected to the loop through. And you have the issue of the limited channels as you describe.

It's a much better solution to get a direct cable to the LNB.

Thurston? · 09-01-2015 05:25PM

Avns1s wrote: »

It's a much better solution to get a direct cable to the LNB.

Definitely agree it's better to have an independent feed of some kind.

Dow99 · 09-01-2015 09:35PM

Hey Folks,
Recently (this evening) I received a Ferguson Ariva 150 from the old man that he was using up until yesterday. He said simply hook the coax cable, power and hdmi cables up to their respective ports and I should be ready to go.

I do see the menu screens and the various channel names in the menu bar - but I'm also getting a message of "No Signal".

My previous system was/is UPC the non cable type, I have a wee antenna on the roof.
1) will I be able to use the Ferguson 150 with that antenna
and if so
2)Can someone point me in the direction of some instructions for the setup.. I did have a look through the settings but I havent a clue.

Thanks!

Avns1s · 09-01-2015 09:44PM

Dow99 wrote: »

Hey Folks,
Recently (this evening) I received a Ferguson Ariva 150 from the old man that he was using up until yesterday. He said simply hook the coax cable, power and hdmi cables up to their respective ports and I should be ready to go.

I do see the menu screens and the various channel names in the menu bar - but I'm also getting a message of "No Signal".

My previous system was/is UPC the non cable type, I have a wee antenna on the roof.
1) will I be able to use the Ferguson 150 with that antenna
and if so
2)Can someone point me in the direction of some instructions for the setup.. I did have a look through the settings but I havent a clue.

Thanks!

The UPC Aerial wont work. You will have to get a proper UHF aerial for the Saorview channels and connect it to the Coax Input.
You will also have to connect the box to your satellite dish for the satellite channels using the F connector input.

To set up the Saorview Channels:

Automatic Scan
1. Press menu on your digital receiver remote control

2. Press the right or left arrow button to go to the Installation list, press OK & go down to Terrestrial Automatic Scan & press OK

3. Select Country “Ireland” on the top line, and Select “No” for FTA Only.

4. Scroll down to Search and press OK.

5. All Muxes should be scanned and all channels should appear in the DVB-T channel list from where you can reorder them. (See page 34 of the user manual for “How to Move a Channel”.

To set up the Satellite channels:

1. Press menu on your digital receiver remote control

2. Press the right or left arrow button to go to the Installation list, press OK & go down to Single Satellite Search and press OK.

3. Select the Satellite (I find Eurobird works best for the Sky channels)

4. Select "YES" for FTA Only.

5. Select "Blind Scan" for Scan Mode.

6. Move down to Search and Press OK

All free channels should now be scanned in.

Thurston? · 09-01-2015 09:49PM

Dow99 wrote: »

Recently (this evening) I received a Ferguson Ariva 150

... My previous system was/is UPC the non cable type, I have a wee antenna on the roof.
1) will I be able to use the Ferguson 150 with that antenna

No, neither Saorview or free-to-air satellite can be received using the MMDS antenna.

You will need a UHF TV aerial (correct type for your location & signal conditions) & a suitable satellite dish aligned on the satellites at 28 degrees east (same as used by Sky).

Dow99 · 09-01-2015 09:50PM

Thanks Anvs1s - that explains it.

So as I do not have a satellite (I currently receive the "Satellite" stations via the UPC antenna) does this mean the best I can achieve is the Saorview channels once I get a UHF aerial?

Dow99 · 09-01-2015 09:51PM

Thurston? wrote: »

No, neither Saorview or free-to-air satellite can be received using the MMDS antenna.

You will need a UHF TV aerial (correct type for your location & signal conditions) & a suitable satellite dish aligned on the satellites at 28 degrees east (same as used by Sky).

I'm outta luck then,, DAMN UPC!!!

Thanks for the quick info guys!!

Avns1s · 09-01-2015 09:54PM

Dow99 wrote: »

Thanks Anvs1s - that explains it.

So as I do not have a satellite (I currently receive the "Satellite" stations via the UPC antenna) does this mean the best I can achieve is the Saorview channels once I get a UHF aerial?

That's pretty much it I'm afraid. Is installing a satellite dish an option for you?

Dow99 · 09-01-2015 10:00PM

Avns1s wrote: »

That's pretty much it I'm afraid. Is installing a satellite dish an option for you?

I was kind of expecting a plug & play setup, so it's not something I had considered until now, but I will look into it.

Thurston? · 09-01-2015 10:04PM

Dow99 wrote: »

So as I do not have a satellite (I currently receive the "Satellite" stations via the UPC antenna) does this mean the best I can achieve is the Saorview channels once I get a UHF aerial?

Depends where you are, although most UPC areas will be out of range of UK terrestrial transmissions, certainly without a pretty hefty aerial installation, that would need as much if not more installation expertise than the satellite dish.

BigBobE · 23-01-2015 06:18PM

Nowso wrote: »

not me but there are extra features on the patched version , not that i can talk much about it on the forum

i upgraded to the patched version you have linked to. would you able to PM a link to an irish channel list by anychance, just having a bit of hassle getting it ALL set up correctly or even a how to.

Nowso · 23-01-2015 06:29PM

i havnt a channel list

do a blind search on astra 2 or eurobird and you should find them all

or just add the setanta and bt sports transponders and search them then

BigBobE · 23-01-2015 08:07PM

Grand just tried that... I'll just sort all the channels.

sin0city · 01-02-2015 01:55AM

Rather than start a new thread, I've a 153.
I just downloaded the latest firmware from the ferguson site.
First does anyone know if it's worth upgrading to this?
Second, if I backup just my channel list, then upgrade the firmware, will it still then accept the channel list saved from the old firmware?

PatchZ · 02-02-2015 10:29PM

sin0city wrote: »

Rather than start a new thread, I've a 153.
I just downloaded the latest firmware from the ferguson site.
First does anyone know if it's worth upgrading to this?
Second, if I backup just my channel list, then upgrade the firmware, will it still then accept the channel list saved from the old firmware?

Hi,

First off, haven't used the 153 but similar to the 150 I'd guess.

What firmware do you have at the moment? Hard to know exactly what has changed recently but I think the last firmware fixed a channel loss issue. But you may not have that issue and if you are using something recent then maybe not worth the risk of an upgrade. If you have an older version then well worth the effort.

And I used to backup my channel list and load it into the new firmware until, on the last version, it caused me serious problems so I wouldn't recommend it. The downside to that is the time required to rescan and organise the channels but maybe you can get a channel list from someone in another thread?

mobby · 02-02-2015 11:45PM

Have a problem with a 153 that was installed over a week ago. I am not getting any signal from the Loop out to a 2nd saorview box I have in another room. this is through some cable that was already in place and was working when I had UPC. I have tried connecting the box directly from the aerial in feed at the combi box and it picked up the saorview channels. but if I connect to the loop out it finds no channels. is there something I need to configure on the box, anyone assist?

Tony · 03-02-2015 01:14AM

Is the 153 on when you are testing ?

mobby wrote: »

Have a problem with a 153 that was installed over a week ago. I am not getting any signal from the Loop out to a 2nd saorview box I have in another room. this is through some cable that was already in place and was working when I had UPC. I have tried connecting the box directly from the aerial in feed at the combi box and it picked up the saorview channels. but if I connect to the loop out it finds no channels. is there something I need to configure on the box, anyone assist?

mobby · 03-02-2015 09:33AM

its on standby mode red light on front of box.

Ferguson Ariva 150

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