He shall not pass (for a few days, anyway...)

One eyed Jack · 02-02-2015 06:01PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

A 98 page rule book for a kid to follow?

For his parents to follow.

I'm just getting very cynical with these stories that you're more likely to find on upworthy.com or some other social injustice website for "sticking it to the man" nonsense.

Little CuChulainn · 02-02-2015 06:04PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

For his parents to follow.

I'm just getting very cynical with these stories that you're more likely to find on upworthy.com or some other social injustice website for "sticking it to the man" nonsense.

I'm sure his parents followed the rules. It was the kids actions which led to the suspension, so it is the kid that must follow the rules.

One eyed Jack · 02-02-2015 06:11PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I'm sure his parents followed the rules. It was the kids actions which led to the suspension, so it is the kid that must follow the rules.

The child's parents should make the child aware of the rules though, and that's why I say we're missing context here. The parents are responsible for the child's behaviour.

One child, suspended three times, I would say there's more to the story that's not being told here.

Timberrrrrrrr · 02-02-2015 06:17PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

The child's parents should make the child aware of the rules though, and that's why I say we're missing context here. The parents are responsible for the child's behaviour.

One child, suspended three times, I would say there's more to the story that's not being told here.

Seriously?

Two of the disciplinary actions this year were in-school suspensions for referring to a classmate as black and bringing his favorite book to school: "The Big Book of Knowledge."

But the teacher learned the popular children’s encyclopedia had a section on pregnancy, depicting a pregnant woman in an illustration, he explained.

evolving_doors · 02-02-2015 06:22PM

Won't someone please please think of the teachers..
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end of the road · 02-02-2015 06:26PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

It's the parents are at fault here, not the school. The parents get the same student handbook as all the other students, and yet this one child seems to be such a "trouble maker".

We're missing context here, so I wouldn't be too quick to jump to conclusions about why the school chose to suspend the child.

oh i would. it was over nothing.

end of the road · 02-02-2015 06:28PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

The child's parents should make the child aware of the rules though, and that's why I say we're missing context here. The parents are responsible for the child's behaviour.

One child, suspended three times, I would say there's more to the story that's not being told here.

if it was a few years ago and somewhere else, you would probably be right. now days, i'm not so sure

One eyed Jack · 02-02-2015 06:29PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Seriously?

I understand how daft it is, you understand how daft it is, but the thing is, if those sort of things violate the school code of conduct, then it's the school's prerogative in how they address the behaviour.

The reason I point to the fact that it seems unusual for this one child to be suspended three times, is because all the other children seem to be able to follow the school guidelines, and I can't help but get the feeling that the parents themselves are using their child to promote their own agenda.

I'm just not so quick to condemn the school when we know so little about the context and the facts.

ratmouse · 02-02-2015 06:41PM

With stories like this from Kermit Elementary it makes you realise that the world is 'gon zo' bizarre!

Peregrine · 02-02-2015 07:34PM

Ficheall wrote: »

Hmm... Interesting...
Would you date an invisible (permanently invisible, as opposed to having the ability to switch back and forth) person ?

Of course. I've been doing it for years :pac:

Timmyctc · 02-02-2015 07:39PM

Serves him right for threatening to destroy another boy's ring.

Kev.OC · 02-02-2015 08:23PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I understand how daft it is, you understand how daft it is, but the thing is, if those sort of things violate the school code of conduct...

Having looked over the 98-page student handbook I can't see anything in it that would call for even one of those suspensions.

02-02-2015 08:27PM

omg not a pregnant woman!!!

One eyed Jack · 02-02-2015 08:36PM

Kev.OC wrote: »

Having looked over the 98-page student handbook I can't see anything in it that would call for even one of those suspensions.

I'm going to take a wild guess and suggest you don't live in America, where they tend to have a rather unusual take on most things that we wouldn't even consider unusual here in Ireland?

I had a look over the same handbook and I can easily see how the three suspensions might be stretched to racism, harassment and terrorism. No, I can't take them seriously either, but then I don't live in arsehole of nowhere Kermit either, and how this story got legs is testament to the sort of Internet faux outrage we see nowadays where we completely ignore context and go with the first thing that makes sense to us (or, doesn't make sense to us, in this case) -

A Kermit parent said his fourth-grade student was suspended Friday for allegedly making a terroristic threat.
His father, Jason Steward, said the family had been to see “The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies” last weekend. His son brought a ring to his class at Kermit Elementary School and told another boy his magic ring could make the boy disappear.

Steward said the principal said threats to another child’s safety would not be tolerated – whether magical or not. Principal Roxanne Greer declined to comment on the matter.

Steward said his son has attended Kermit Elementary since August. The 9-year-old has been in in-school suspension for referring to another student’s skin color and got in trouble for bringing a kids’ book about pregnancy to school.

Odessa American Online

Timberrrrrrrr · 02-02-2015 08:41PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I'm going to take a wild guess and suggest you don't live in America, where they tend to have a rather unusual take on most things that we wouldn't even consider unusual here in Ireland?

I had a look over the same handbook and I can easily see how the three suspensions might be stretched to racism, harassment and terrorism. No, I can't take them seriously either, but then I don't live in arsehole of nowhere Kermit either, and how this story got legs is testament to the sort of Internet faux outrage we see nowadays where we completely ignore context and go with the first thing that makes sense to us (or, doesn't make sense to us, in this case) -

Odessa American Online

How the **** does a 9 year old child make a "terroristic threat" it's because if stupidity and scaremongering like this that the word terrorism has no meaning anymore and just gets bandied about as an excuse for anything.

K4t · 02-02-2015 08:46PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I'm going to take a wild guess and suggest you don't live in America, where they tend to have a rather unusual take on most things that we wouldn't even consider unusual here in Ireland?

You're going overboard in your search for context here when all you have to do is simply stand back for a moment and see the lunacy at play. I understand context can help explain why something happened, but that still doesn't mean what happened was right in this situation.

RobbingBandit · 02-02-2015 08:46PM

This is Texas we are talking about, the right wing republican God makes babies and they are brought by the stork.

One eyed Jack · 02-02-2015 08:58PM

K4t wrote: »

You're going overboard in your search for context here when all you have to do is simply stand back for a moment and see the lunacy at play. I understand context can help explain why something happened, but that still doesn't mean what happened was right in this situation.

That's exactly why I'm going overboard searching for context here though, because it doesn't sound right, at all, how in a six month period, the child is suspended three times for what to us might seem on the surface like the most insignificant, trivial circumstances.

That's why I'm saying there has to be more to the story than just what's being reported in the media.

K4t · 02-02-2015 09:01PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

That's exactly why I'm going overboard searching for context here though, because it doesn't sound right, at all, how in a six month period, the child is suspended three times for what to us might seem on the surface like the most insignificant, trivial circumstances.

That's why I'm saying there has to be more to the story than just what's being reported in the media.

Ah, fair enough. I've done some research myself and found that over 73% of residents in Kermit identify themselves as religious, and it is Texas, so I wouldn't have too much faith.

JohnBee · 02-02-2015 09:09PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

It's the parents are at fault here, not the school. The parents get the same student handbook as all the other students, and yet this one child seems to be such a "trouble maker".

We're missing context here, so I wouldn't be too quick to jump to conclusions about why the school chose to suspend the child.

Agreed. I have children in school at that age. From the stories I hear, it is difficult to get suspended at that age. Yes, its the USA and all that. However, the parents are in the lucky situation of being able to give a totally one sided story knowing that the school will not make a public statement because of confidentiality. The parents probably left out the part where the other kid was tied to a chair before being told he will be made to disappear.

One eyed Jack · 02-02-2015 09:29PM

K4t wrote: »

Ah, fair enough. I've done some research myself and found that over 73% of residents in Kermit identify themselves as religious, and it is Texas, so I wouldn't have too much faith.

Heh, I got the faith reference alright

So I had a look at their report card, and it seems with 777 students, they're quite a racially, socially and economically diverse school, no indication whether it's a dominant faith based school (initially I had thought Creationism and that it might be a Charter school, but apparently not) -

http://www.edlinesites.net/files/_7MJ2i_/d45d19ff1b0423bf3745a49013852ec4/KES_School_Report_Card.pdf

So in a school with 777 pupils from what seems like all manner of social, racial, cultural and economic backgrounds, this one child gets suspended three times in six months?

That's one picked-on kid! :rolleyes:

He shall not pass (for a few days, anyway...)

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