Cork GAA Discussion Thread

thinkstoomuch1 · 29-01-2015 04:55PM

Cork team being picked on mayo game last year with eleven starters

I looked statistic from excellent don't foul site

Few stand out

Istly mayo dominated possession with 50 possession
Cork had thirty four

Mayo from fifty had 39 shots over fifty per cent success cork better forwards less possession had 28 from thirty four so had over sixty per cent successful
Sheer volume mayo attacks meant had more score despite imo just one forward would wall on cork team

Turnover was crucial cork had lost possession thirty times and mayo had converted them to 21 shots so seventy per cent rate cork forced mayo twenty six turnovers has fourteen shots and twenty six per cent ratio shots

Cork won twenty five own kick-outs so that was seventy six per cent
Mayo won just eight cork kick outs so twenty four per cent

Crucial is mayo allowed cork won ball own kick out in their own half close goal didn't contest so they had blanket back from half way so cork attacks had build up slowly so mayo were ready and waiting
Cork were so predictable

When cork tried inject pace and go long couldn't

Mayo turned cork over nine times in their sixty five got one five
What will Dublin do??!!

Mayo went long won 77 per cent their own kick-outs only went short three times

Cork won fifty six kick outs beyond forty five but mayo had seventy four per cent

The key here was mayo dominated magior possession high up field areas but cork only got possession by going shorty suited mayo
Dublin destroy cork midfield last April and cork midfield has it improved???

Maguire will no doubt improve it but conaghaile and McCauley are just awesome
Dublin have subs bring on
Who cork bring on if needed

I have no doubt cork could bear Dublin scoring wise six forwards we have most score and some awesome but problem like mayo game imo be cork won't have possession to score and Dublin will have more possession but unlike mayo have forwards punish cork
And Dublin blanket to ab extent will allow cork poession from kick outs but their high pressure cork huge problems

thinkstoomuch1 · 29-01-2015 05:51PM

http://www.the42.ie/ucc-ul-fitzgibbon-cup-1910122-Jan2015/
Great see cadogan lehane getting goals

All cork forwards this year getting goals good sign

Murphy must be injured hopefully will not be too serious
Cit won also good for cork hurling

sean mac · 29-01-2015 07:20PM

http://t.co/168HJgu8az Cuthbert interview on red fm

Canyon86 · 29-01-2015 07:52PM

anybody fancy rochestown to beat ard scoil on the 31st lads?

be good to see a cork school still in the loop

solwhit12 · 29-01-2015 08:00PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

CORK V DUBLIN - ALLIANZ FOOTBALL LEAGUE OPENING NEXT SUN 1ST FEB 29/01/2015
Cork Senior Footballers play Dublin in the opening round of the Allianz Football League on Sunday.

Game: Cork v Dublin
Date: Sunday 1st February 2015 at 2:00 p.m.
Venue: Páirc Uí Rinn.
Referee: Rory Hickey (Clare).

We'll have live updates from the game here on the website and on our Twitter page, @OfficialCorkGAA.

The Cork Senior Football Team to play Dublin on Sunday lines out as follows:
1. Ken O’Halloran, Bishopstown
2. Tomás Clancy, Fermoy
3. Tom Clancy, Clonakilty
4. James Loughrey, Mallow
5. Jamie O’Sullivan, Bishopstown
6. Eoin Cadogan, Douglas
7. Brian O’Driscoll, Tadhg MacCarthaigh
8. Fintan Goold, Macroom
9. Ian Maguire, St. Finbarr’s
10. Mark Collins, Castlehaven
11. Donnacha O’Connor, Ballydesmond
12. Colm O’Driscoll, Tadhg MacCarthaigh
13. Colm O’Neill, Ballyclough
14. Donal Óg Hodnett, O’Donovan Rossa
15. Brian Hurley, Castlehaven
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23. John Hayes, Carbery Rangers
24. John O’Rourke, Carbery Rangers
25. Barry O’Driscoll, Nemo Rangers
26. Kevin O’Driscoll, Tadhg MacCarthaigh
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Team is as good as what is available full back line is inexperienced alright.goalie is shocking IMO he's kick outs are causing a lot of the midfield problems the hardly reach the half back line don't mind midfield.

CORKDOUBLE · 29-01-2015 08:34PM

Lads where has Mark Sugrue gone is he not with U.C.C. this year ? Luke Connolly is a sub on sunday but I think Sugrue is a better player ...they might be small in stature but Alan and Stephen Cronin are brilliant intelligent footballers and ideal corner backs ....interesting I did not see there names on the U.C.C. team in the Sigerson ?

Folers23 · 29-01-2015 08:50PM

solwhit12 wrote: »

Team is as good as what is available full back line is inexperienced alright.goalie is shocking IMO he's kick outs are causing a lot of the midfield problems the hardly reach the half back line don't mind midfield.

I think the team is okay except the 6 backs are lined out in the complete wrong order. Surely lining up like below makes more sense?

2. O'Sullivan
3. Cadogan
4. Loughrey (not ideal)
5. Clancy
6. Clancy
7. O'Driscoll

I think the kick out problem is a mixture of O'Halloran and the midfield being poor if im brutally honest.

sean mac · 29-01-2015 08:58PM

Folers agree totally,the balance of the defence is alk over the place;cadogan has to be at 3.If kens kickouts havent improved significantly we are in trouble,cant go short too often vs top teams as they will turn you over

sean mac · 29-01-2015 08:59PM

Folers agree totally,the balance of the defence is alk over the place;cadogan has to be at 3.If kens kickouts havent improved significantly we are in trouble,cant go short too often vs top teams as they will turn you over

thinkstoomuch1 · 29-01-2015 10:01PM

Folers23 wrote: »

I think the team is okay except the 6 backs are lined out in the complete wrong order. Surely lining up like below makes more sense?

2. O'Sullivan
3. Cadogan
4. Loughrey (not ideal)
5. Clancy
6. Clancy
7. O'Driscoll

I think the kick out problem is a mixture of O'Halloran and the midfield being poor if im brutally honest.

I'd switch Sullivan will get burned pace and acceleration on turn so can't be corner back

Full back he's be okay as he stats solid square outstanding league final v mayo
Cadogan should be corner
Obviously other corner has problems
Clancy loughrey much better half back
At push have Clancy not ucc corner

You would think back would change but you never know with this crowd

I mist say be fair Denis hurley give reasoned debate tonight regards cork
I read some utter rubbish day before another journo in cork fans too eccentric and needed chill and relax so what relegated as wouldn't make matter championship v Kerry total wring imo

Denis spot on build coherent unit vital for cork

He said had valid points that winning league not be end all but least agreed to you can't dismiss it totally and more less staying up vital

He did mention the lack coach and said be interested how things shape with ronan Mccarthy

And cuthbert you would think does bulk training

He said pat Flanagan part play likely
Maybe that's case but anyone I ask cuthbhert doing main part it

Now he raises valid point keeping information low key cork coaching may be good
Imo I don't think would affect cork in kerry we all know o Neill coaching, cork under twenty one football we all know gene I's coaching

I agree with concepts coaching drill kept low key but announced coach is no great advantage opposition as all teams you know who coach is

He said a defeat could on back Waterford loss pierce moral further and may be difficult to gain momentum

On other hand he correctly said hasn't happened yet so he said let's not assume all things are doom and gloom and he does say things not perfect by any means but lay off obituaries for a while

Imo well balanced article which I think my view all you want cork fan

Fair point nothing happened yet hopefully I hope cork win Sunday
I hope that if unfortunately cork do loose though that things though are looked at

Be fair all credit due there was acknowledged things far from perfect cork football and as said be that's all you ask for imo honesty Like you see munster rubgy

ciarriaithuaidh · 29-01-2015 11:38PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Lads where has Mark Sugrue gone is he not with U.C.C. this year ? Luke Connolly is a sub on sunday but I think Sugrue is a better player ...they might be small in stature but Alan and Stephen Cronin are brilliant intelligent footballers and ideal corner backs ....interesting I did not see there names on the U.C.C. team in the Sigerson ?

Alan was with UCC last year, must have left college I'd say. Stephen Cronin is in 1st year in UCC I'm told and therefore ineligible for Sigerson.

Sugrue definitely came on in a game earlier in the year for UCC, so not sure is he injured or what. He wasn't on the UCC panel on Tuesday.

thinkstoomuch1 · 29-01-2015 11:56PM

Cork minor panel very close been finalised
Around thirty this week cut it to
I told this evening cork played challenge other night v cork selection with lord mayor cup

Cork won
I know full team but won't say all but main points
Few lads got recall from panel
Cian Collins got game goal
Declan Dalton outfield played
Bill hennwsy played but told if correct played midfield not corner back where tried earlier games
Darragh o brien played centre back and with seadna smith meant be very good

So far no stone left unturned by management and all panel players and they all deserves immense credit for work so far and those not fortunately make cut deserve immense credit in there's huge competition this year and there are some very very hard calls

April coming soon pretty fast now

The White Feather · 30-01-2015 12:02AM

TTM, I assume you would know this but what age is Collins the Cork hurling goalkeeper? wasnt he playing Under 21 when he was 18 or something outrageous like that? Just trying to think what age he is now.

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-01-2015 12:07AM

The White Feather wrote: »

TTM, I assume you would know this but what age is Collins the Cork hurling goalkeeper? wasnt he playing Under 21 when he was 18 or something outrageous like that? Just trying to think what age he is now.

Patrick is nineteenth

Played minor and under twenty one last two years

Three years left st under twenty one

Awesmoric sensation absolutely gem of talent goalie haa it all and so so so much more

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-01-2015 01:52AM

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Hurleratheart · 30-01-2015 10:41AM

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Alan was with UCC last year, must have left college I'd say. Stephen Cronin is in 1st year in UCC I'm told and therefore ineligible for Sigerson.

Sugrue definitely came on in a game earlier in the year for UCC, so not sure is he injured or what. He wasn't on the UCC panel on Tuesday.

was wondering as well why no mention of those Cronins from Nemo - they've ben unlucky with injuries - Steven had shoulder op im sure after 21s last year

thanks for update

Hurleratheart · 30-01-2015 10:44AM

Canyon86 wrote: »

anybody fancy rochestown to beat ard scoil on the 31st lads?

be good to see a cork school still in the loop

if there right they have fantastic chance

i hope they have enough hurling done

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-01-2015 10:55AM

Every great great team is beaten on a day and I think ard scoil if there going beaten will loose team like cork side

I fancy them to win
Hsmmies pushed them all the way but richestown are much better balanced at full back and I think they will win this

If they do there at least guaranteed two more games

No injuries and hear meaney likely start they have huge chance

Richmond Ultra · 30-01-2015 11:07AM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

http://www.the42.ie/ucc-ul-fitzgibbon-cup-1910122-Jan2015/
Great see cadogan lehane getting goals

All cork forwards this year getting goals good sign

Murphy must be injured hopefully will not be too serious
Cit won also good for cork hurling

Murphy was dropped in place of tom Devine with Dan Roche going back. Its just Cunningham trying his dummy teams as well. Why do GAA teams bother with this stupid tradition.

Smith614 · 30-01-2015 11:23AM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Every great great team is beaten on a day and I think ard scoil if there going beaten will loose team like cork side

I fancy them to win
Hsmmies pushed them all the way but richestown are much better balanced at full back and I think they will win this

If they do there at least guaranteed two more games

No injuries and hear meaney likely start they have huge chance

TTM... I was not overly impressed with ASR V Hammies and think Rocco have a huge chance but still a player like Ronan Lynch can dictate this game unless ball is kept away from him with puckouts etc. Hammies played well but couldn't seem to get past the ASR half back line. If Rocco can get on top at 3 & 6 its going to be a massive advantage. This should be a cracker . Rocco for me.

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-01-2015 11:23AM

Richmond Ultra wrote: »

Murphy was dropped in place of tom fevine with Dan Roche going back. Its just Cunningham trying his dummy teams as well. Why do GAA teams bother with this stupid tradition.

thanks that

Yeah was wondering that alright

Daniel roche good tapping fast hurler but lacks aggressive bite in he's hurling imo

Murphy is much better than him

I agree dummy teams annoy me and this joke waiting last minute name team

Like limerick in fairness wait til the day probably to name team Waterford Crystal, very hard journalist people preview the game

Dublin football same no team yet for Sunday

They have bring in rule by Thursday or Friday latest imo

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-01-2015 11:29AM

Smith614 wrote: »

TTM... I was not overly impressed with ASR V Hammies and think Rocco have a huge chance but still a player like Ronan Lynch can dictate this game unless ball is kept away from him with puckouts etc. Hammies played well but couldn't seem to get past the ASR half back line. If Rocco can get on top at 3 & 6 its going to be a massive advantage. This should be a cracker . Rocco for me.

Yeah the key as well was best man markers Joe o mahogany went half back when should started corner back eoin o brien went corner to half and had be sunbed as both had tough days from opponents

Mickey mickey will take watching but Douglas have men ti mark him
Lynch is heartbeat the team I agree

Grimes and hoinhsn are very good but cormac and Kingston more than able for them

That full back hogan is good but can as eoin reilly proved with three points be taken for scores

Would you drop Kingston in on him to get a goal?? Or keep him half forward floating??

Tough call imo

Richmond Ultra · 30-01-2015 12:03PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

thanks that

Yeah was wondering that alright

Daniel roche good tapping fast hurler but lacks aggressive bite in he's hurling imo

Murphy is much better than him

I agree dummy teams annoy me and this joke waiting last minute name team

Like limerick in fairness wait til the day probably to name team Waterford Crystal, very hard journalist people preview the game

Dublin football same no team yet for Sunday

They have bring in rule by Thursday or Friday latest imo

I was covering the game yesterday and its nearly a running joke for UCC games that you need to find John Grainger so as to get the correct team. Then GMIT made 7 changes to the squad with midfielders being put corner forward etc so I suppose UCC wasn't that bad.

Their is also a little rumour on the grapevine that both Queens and IT Sligo fielded ineligible players in their game so UCC could get a walkover but as one would say watch this space.
The players are supposed to fall under the Aidan Walsh rule by swapping colleges etc too often even though UUJ get through with lads doing bouncer courses in college. Like who goes to college on a scholarship to be a bouncer.:P.

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-01-2015 12:34PM

Richmond Ultra wrote: »

I was covering the game yesterday and its nearly a running joke for UCC games that you need to find John Grainger so as to get the correct team. Then GMIT made 7 changes to the squad with midfielders being put corner forward etc so I suppose UCC wasn't that bad.

Their is also a little rumour on the grapevine that both Queens and IT Sligo fielded ineligible players in their game so UCC could get a walkover but as one would say watch this space.
The players are supposed to fall under the Aidan Walsh rule by swapping colleges etc too often even though UUJ get through with lads doing bouncer courses in college. Like who goes to college on a scholarship to be a bouncer.:P.

Jesus should be interesting

In a way though would ucc be hindered with no game would be better with game

Would not matter though if gap between semi and quatre was small enough

Ucc football team will take some team beat them imo

Yeah it joke for ye guys I'd say trying get names alright those matches

Smith614 · 30-01-2015 01:22PM

Kingston roaming I think is the best and most effective way for him. He seems to have the full package. Would let him at 14 for a while but a waste if they cant get the ball to him. Is Meaney going to start? Peter Casey is a good corner forward for ASR with senior Na Piarsaigh experience. In these conditins goals are going to be vital and I think Rocco have the better full back line.

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-01-2015 01:37PM

Smith614 wrote: »

Kingston roaming I think is the best and most effective way for him. He seems to have the full package. Would let him at 14 for a while but a waste if they cant get the ball to him. Is Meaney going to start? Peter Casey is a good corner forward for ASR with senior Na Piarsaigh experience. In these conditins goals are going to be vital and I think Rocco have the better full back line.

I think he will word is he is
If not at half time but they know you can't let ard scoil get lead chase them

There normal control games but I think that once on back foot unfamiliar territory and they could struggle

Yeah fair point bout Kingston

Interesting if Kingston has good game si lynch put him
If so fine as they will limit each other and Kingston well able him last year but lynch has hand injury then be fair

Casey is dangerous alright
Mickey maxkey also

Gillwne centre forward cashnsn has long day ahead but I have no fear cashman he'll be fine

Griffin should be fine inside

They have soild spine team excellent coaches and full package to beat ard scoil

This will be like a game of chess as moran as proved v Hammies is tactically good as move Gullane at centre forward was a surprise but a mastee stroke

Goals be crucial tomorrow jusr one could do but I think there's goal for richestown there

Figsy32 · 30-01-2015 01:49PM

With Powter and Cormack inside and Lynch and Kingston coming from deeper there's goals in that forward line. Winning ball from puck outs will have to be a lot better than against Nenagh, both in the air and on the ground from breaks. In fairness, they're a team with a lot of fight and leadership so I wouldn't put it past then but it's a big ask.

commonsense. · 30-01-2015 02:37PM

Smith614 wrote:

TTM... I was not overly impressed with ASR V Hammies and think Rocco have a huge chance but still a player like Ronan Lynch can dictate this game unless ball is kept away from him with puckouts etc. Hammies played well but couldn't seem to get past the ASR half back line. If Rocco can get on top at 3 & 6 its going to be a massive advantage. This should be a cracker . Rocco for me.

Word is Rochestown have 1 major injury concern. Intensive physio and rehab during the week. Hopefully dosen't come down to injuries working against them again for the second sucessive year.

rughug · 30-01-2015 03:03PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Patrick is nineteenth

Played minor and under twenty one last two years

Three years left st under twenty one

Awesmoric sensation absolutely gem of talent goalie haa it all and so so so much more

I hope to god he is after working on the flight / trajectory of his puckouts. I watched him in the minor hurling cship v waterford in pairc ui rinn was it 2 years ago and i wouldnt like to have been half forward. They took too long to drop thus giving the physical backs all the advantage. He needs to perfect a lower zippy ball flight and give his forwards a chance. Other than that great shot stopper.Big future.

Hurleratheart · 30-01-2015 03:33PM

Rohestown V Ard Scoil put back to 3pm

Charleville 3pm tomorrow

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