DVD v BluRay

Technocentral · 19-01-2015 01:20PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I have no access to broadband. What good is digital download to me?

I'm on shared wifi that drops out completely now and then (maybe 2 times every 3 hours), which is really frustrating, until there is 100% guaranteed broadband blu rays will always be tops. Plus I have ones like Alien with about 10 hours of extras that you can't watch online.

Jumboman · 19-01-2015 03:03PM

Mike Litoris wrote: »

In the same way a large V8 beats a small turbo. Good luck with that 40" CRT.

They made 32" HD (1080i) CRT screens.

I would take one of those anyday over a Plasma or LCD/LED

happysunnydays · 19-01-2015 03:14PM

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

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Right Turn Clyde wrote: »

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I think you both made some good points, thank you for your insightful remarks.

TheDoc · 19-01-2015 04:02PM

Jumboman wrote: »

They made 32" HD (1080i) CRT screens.

I would take one of those anyday over a Plasma or LCD/LED

Maybe you've only seen garbage LED/LCD's? I've had some pretty high spec CRT's in my time, and wouldn't trade my LED at all.

mzungu · 19-01-2015 04:09PM

It has to be BluRay for me. Recently I have watched Battle Royale and Kill Bill and the sound and visual quality was top notch. Thats not to say I could never watch a DVD again, but given the option it would be BluRay.

Mike Litoris · 19-01-2015 05:10PM

Jumboman wrote: »

They made 32" HD (1080i) CRT screens.

I would take one of those anyday over a Plasma or LCD/LED

I'd also take Mach 1 Mustang over a Passat.

Jumboman · 19-01-2015 06:54PM

TheDoc wrote: »

Maybe you've only seen garbage LED/LCD's? I've had some pretty high spec CRT's in my time, and wouldn't trade my LED at all.

Black levels on plasma are still much better than LED's.

Also you get a much more natural looking "organic" image on a plasma screen than on a LED or LCD.

If you cant get a CRT screen plasma is still the best flat screen tech that is currently available .

karlmarker · 19-01-2015 06:56PM

if you have bluray player it upgrades the picture quality of dvds

Jumboman · 19-01-2015 07:13PM

mzungu wrote: »

It has to be BluRay for me. Recently I have watched Battle Royale and Kill Bill and the sound and visual quality was top notch. Thats not to say I could never watch a DVD again, but given the option it would be BluRay.

Also the sound quality on Blu ray is light years ahead of DVD.

DVD is not even CD quailty.

With blu ray you are getting high def lossless audio.

If you have a separate sound system the difference in sound quality between blu ray and DVD is like night and day. Because DVD uses compressed audio for its 5.1 soundtracks means you get little or no base. The 5.1 soundtrack on a DVD will not have anything like the same impact than it will on blu ray.

Some films on Blu ray only look slightly better than they do on DVD.
But blu ray soundtracks can be out if this world.
Airforce One on blu ray is good example of this while the picture quailty is average the 5.1 soundtrack is outstanding. If you have 5.1 system Airforce One on blu ray is worth buying just for 5.1 soundtrack alone.

DoYouEvenLift · 19-01-2015 07:29PM

http://www.blu-ray.com is a good way to find out if a movie is worth getting on the format

Technocentral · 19-01-2015 09:25PM

You can get blu ray players for 69 euro now, when thread was first started was a few hundred so no excuse anymore if you value pic quality.

DoYouEvenLift · 19-01-2015 09:27PM

Technocentral wrote: »

You can get blu ray players for 69 euro now, when thread was first started was a few hundred so no excuse anymore if you value pic quality.

The thread was only started 5 days ago

Frank O. Pinion · 19-01-2015 09:32PM

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

The thread was only started 5 days ago

We live in a wild economy.

Snake Plisken · 20-01-2015 12:12AM

Spare a thought for me with my 100 HD-DVD's and Toshiba HD-DVD player. I bet on red but blue won at the end of the day! So had to rebuy stuff like the Matrix trilogy etc so triple buys for me lol!

20-01-2015 09:18AM

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Spare a thought for me with my 100 HD-DVD's and Toshiba HD-DVD player. I bet on red but blue won at the end of the day! So had to rebuy stuff like the Matrix trilogy etc so triple buys for me lol!

Playstation 3 was the decider for me. Having that many BluRay players penetrating the market seemed to immediately make it a winner to me.

Basically, I got lucky

TheDoc · 20-01-2015 02:23PM

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Spare a thought for me with my 100 HD-DVD's and Toshiba HD-DVD player. I bet on red but blue won at the end of the day! So had to rebuy stuff like the Matrix trilogy etc so triple buys for me lol!

Feel you.

I got the HD DVD player for my Xbox 360

Thankfully didn't go mental on buying the actual HD DVD's. I bought two, (300 and Enter the Dragon) and they looked grainy and garbage and considering the price I kept to DVD at the time.

beauf · 20-01-2015 03:07PM

I just read the review of the 300 here

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/887/300.html.

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Well, I'm going to put on my flame-proof suit and say that because the film has been so intentionally processed and "degraded," its very nature just doesn't lend itself to the kind of truly eye-popping and ultra-realistic high-def that I've come to equate with the term reference quality.
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All things considered, I still found watching '300' an often less-than thrilling experience on a purely subjective level of wanting to enjoy a good-looking, awe-inspiring high-def image. But as a representation of the film's style, there's no debating that this HD DVD edition of '300' delivers -- so much so that even for high-def purist like myself, it's possible to ignore the film's intentionally degraded visual design and just enjoy the ride.
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I have the original uncut of DAS Boot on DVD. I've heard similar criticisms of that on BD as the source is grainy and dark anyway. I like how my Cheap Blu-Ray player upscales it. Some of my other older War movies on DVD upscale quite nicely too.

Right Turn Clyde · 20-01-2015 04:17PM

beauf wrote: »

I just read the review of the 300 here

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/887/300.html.

I have the original uncut of DAS Boot on DVD. I've heard similar criticisms of that on BD as the source is grainy and dark anyway. I like how my Cheap Blu-Ray player upscales it. Some of my other older War movies on DVD upscale quite nicely too.

Maybe I'm way off here, but should Das Boot not look grainy? I remember being terribly dissapointed with The Godfather on Bluray because of the grain. But of course the grain is supposed to be there. Getting rid of it removes depth and makes the transfer look even worse.

jones · 20-01-2015 05:25PM

I only buy blurays now and have done for the past 8 years or so. I couldnt tell you the last dvd I bought. In saying that I only buy films now I know whereas in my dvd years I would of done a lot of blind buying too. I've a 64" plasma and every pixel counts :-)

Ageyev · 20-01-2015 05:39PM

I got Netflix in Feb of last year and in the period from then till now I've only bought one film on physical media but I'm thinking of breaking my fast as Amazon have some blu-rays I want on offer two for £10. Looking at Robocop and Terminator which were remastered not too long ago.

They also have some Hitchcock and a few older 'classics' such as The Searchers as well as the Sony Classics line feat. Lawrence of Arabia.

Adamantium · 20-01-2015 07:38PM

I like buying physical and always will if only because some day I'd love to watch movies with my kids (when I have them).

I can just imagine them cracking up the chestbox of dvd's and blu rays that are in the attic and being fascinated with the cover art and images on the box of whats to come. I can't wait to do it with them actually!

Like this one I still have and bought in 2004 (don't crucify for me showing the special editions for my future kids lol, ironically enough it has the Empire of Dreams documentary on the making of the original trilogy that the blu ray bizarrely lacked..WTF?!)

Most films are so disposable and so plentiful and lacking in substance, sometimes the best memories are the analouge real things which we remember them by, a floating icon is of little sentimentality or fondness to a kid. Sad they might never know that.

Tony EH · 20-01-2015 10:26PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I think it all depends on how big your tv is .
The bigger the set the most noticeable the difference in picture quality .
Once you go over 39 inches DVD will look patchy.

Mpeg 2 or h262 (DVD) is a pretty old and inefficient codec now so not only is the resolution much lower than Bluray (primarily h264) ,the video quality for even similar resolution is much less.

There does seem to be quite a wide variation in both Dvd and Blu-ray picture qualities,some Dvds can look great others terrible ,likewise with Blu-ray ,some of the discs I have seen lately have been very poor.

Certain Blu-ray players can make DVDs look better than others ,dependent on the chipset and upscaling technology.

I only watch Blu-Rays now

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This.

I watch all my films on a TV that's under 40in and frankly there's bugger all difference between a well produced DVD and a BluRay, except the price.

However, the picture difference does kick in when you're look at the film on larger screens. That's really where you'll see BluRay come to life.

In saying that, I've seen some god awful BluRay transfers in my time and some stuff that's released on BluRay, is just silly and unnecessary, like 'The World at War'.

Technocentral · 20-01-2015 11:40PM

Tony EH wrote:

In saying that, I've seen some god awful BluRay transfers in my time and some stuff that's released on BluRay, is just silly and unnecessary, like 'The World at War'.

True, for instance a film like "The Man From Earth" which was shot on standard definition DV got a Blu Ray release! Completely pointless, at least World at War was shot on16mm so if they had the original film elements it could benefit slightly from Blu Ray

Technocentral · 20-01-2015 11:47PM

Actually Blu Ray.com gave World at War a great review, said some elements were 35 mm and restoration looked great overall.

Nerdkiller1991 · 21-01-2015 01:20AM

Technocentral wrote: »

Actually Blu Ray.com gave World at War a great review, said some elements were 35 mm and restoration looked great overall.

Ehhh, but show is cropped from the original aspect ratio, so that's a dealbreaker.

Tony EH · 21-01-2015 09:38AM

Technocentral wrote: »

Actually Blu Ray.com gave World at War a great review, said some elements were 35 mm and restoration looked great overall.

Perhaps, but 90% is grainy footage from the 1930's/40's, so a Blu is rather pointless and it's release price was a joke, to say the least.

I actually didn't mind the cropping.

A Blu of 'Gravity' makes sense. But a Blu of the likes of 'The World at War', or frankly any TV series from the 50's to at least the 70's is a bit silly, especially when cost is taken into account.

pixelburp · 21-01-2015 11:31AM

Adamantium wrote: »

I like buying physical and always will if only because some day I'd love to watch movies with my kids (when I have them). [...]

Haha, that's a nice dream, though I'd throw some caution that there's a good chance your kids might go "jeez, Dad, this is borrrrring, I wanna watch Transformers 8 on my Occulus implant"

21-01-2015 11:35AM

Tony EH wrote: »

Perhaps, but 90% is grainy footage from the 1930's/40's, so a Blu is rather pointless and it's release price was a joke, to say the least.

I actually didn't mind the cropping.

A Blu of 'Gravity' makes sense. But a Blu of the likes of 'The World at War', or frankly any TV series from the 50's to at least the 70's is a bit silly, especially when cost is taken into account.

Star Trek looks fairly nice, it must be said

calex71 · 21-01-2015 11:55AM

Tony EH wrote: »

Perhaps, but 90% is grainy footage from the 1930's/40's, so a Blu is rather pointless and it's release price was a joke, to say the least.

I actually didn't mind the cropping.

A Blu of 'Gravity' makes sense. But a Blu of the likes of 'The World at War', or frankly any TV series from the 50's to at least the 70's is a bit silly, especially when cost is taken into account.

I got the The Prisoner on Blu Ray recently and the difference is night and day, it truly did benefit from the process, and was worth the money and I had the dvd's for years so I did actually compare them

. I guess it comes down to the source and effort put into the process , maybe the prisoner is an exception rather than a rule regarding older tv stuff though.

Hmmmm now I'm reminded to see if Danger Man ever came out on Blu :pac:

Edit: Actually there was a clip I recall seeing before I bought them of the Intro theme with dvd + blu side by side sold me on them, must see if I can find it.

Tony EH · 21-01-2015 12:30PM

calex71 wrote: »

I got the The Prisoner on Blu Ray recently and the difference is night and day, it truly did benefit from the process, and was worth the money and I had the dvd's for years so I did actually compare them . I guess it comes down to the source and effort put into the process , maybe the prisoner is an exception rather than a rule regarding older tv stuff though.

Hmmmm now I'm reminded to see if Danger Man ever came out on Blu

Edit: Actually there was a clip I recall seeing before I bought them of the Intro theme with dvd + blu side by side sold me on them, must see if I can find it.

But you're not really comparing like for like.

Of course a brand new BluRay transfer is going to be better than an old DVD transfer.

I've seen the new BluRay of 'The professionals' and it blows the old 2002 DVD transfer out of the water...but of course it would.

But the only real comparison would be to see a new DVD copy of a new transfer against the new BluRay copy.

The point is that for the vast majority of people, a new, well produced DVD (especially of TV material) would be perfectly fine, and even more preferable when stacked against the cost of a BluRay.

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