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Athiests - Who cares

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Baggy Trousers


    Just because you refuse to believe in the truth behind Christmas (and the catholic faith in general) in no way makes it a lie and in fact you have no right making accusations like that. Religion is an important part of a child's upbringing and I pity the children who are born into atheist familys and denied it.

    Ah give up your oul sins. For children, Christmas has very little to with religion these days and you know it. It's much more about Santa and reindeers and presents and family and friends/relations and Charlie and the Chocolate factory and selection boxes and pantomimes and turkeys and sleep-ins etc etc. The only thing atheist families leave out is the mass!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    Religion is an important part of a child's upbringing and I pity the children who are born into atheist familys and denied it.

    Astonishing and amazing ... all in one. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Baggy Trousers


    kneemos wrote: »
    The spirit is real delusional or not.

    Kneemos, apologies in advance. I saw this funny video and thought of you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Just because you refuse to believe in the truth behind Christmas (and the catholic faith in general) in no way makes it a lie and in fact you have no right making accusations like that. Religion is an important part of a child's upbringing and I pity the children who are born into atheist familys and denied it.

    Just the Catholic children though right? Since all the rest are "wrong"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    Religion is an important part of a child's upbringing and I pity the children who are born into atheist familys and denied it.
    WHAT? Bringing children up to be intolerant of people, to believe those who are not like them have to be converted and brought over to the "one true religion", having them fear the fact they might go to hell or come back as a snail or something is important? Bullsh1t. Religion is an absolute horrible thing. I have no problem with people believing in a God or Gods but religion is just toxic. My children will not be brought up in a religious house but they will be educated about religion so they can make their own choice whenever they want. To say religion is important in a child's upbringing is absolutely ludicrous.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,940 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Just the Catholic children though right? Since all the rest are "wrong"


    Reminded me of this -




  • Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah give up your oul sins. For children, Christmas has very little to with religion these days and you know it. It's much more about Santa and reindeers and presents and family and friends/relations and Charlie and the Chocolate factory and selection boxes and pantomimes and turkeys and sleep-ins etc etc. The only thing atheist families leave out is the mass!

    Christmas is very much about the above for children and much of it for adults too but there is no need to forget the religious side of it either including the crib, Christmas mass etc.
    mrkiscool2 wrote: »
    WHAT? Bringing children up to be intolerant of people, to believe those who are not like them have to be converted and brought over to the "one true religion", having them fear the fact they might go to hell or come back as a snail or something is important? Bullsh1t. Religion is an absolute horrible thing. I have no problem with people believing in a God or Gods but religion is just toxic. My children will not be brought up in a religious house but they will be educated about religion so they can make their own choice whenever they want. To say religion is important in a child's upbringing is absolutely ludicrous.

    Of course its important for them to be brought up as Catholics. Thankfully in this country the vast majority of schools are catholic schools and teach it so some might pick it up who dont get it at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Of course its important for them to be brought up as Catholics. Thankfully in this country the vast majority of schools are catholic schools and teach it so some might pick it up who dont get it at home.

    This is unbelievable, i was one of the longest to deny it, but there is no way you are a real person with these opinions in 2015


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    Christmas is very much about the above for children and much of it for adults too but there is no need to forget the religious side of it either including the crib, Christmas mass etc.



    Of course its important for them to be brought up as Catholics. Thankfully in this country the vast majority of schools are catholic schools and teach it so some might pick it up who dont get it at home.
    Wow. You are either trolling the hell out of everyone or else you are just so delusional it's not even funny!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Christmas is very much about the above for children and much of it for adults too but there is no need to forget the religious side of it either including the crib, Christmas mass etc.

    There's no need to remember it either tbf.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭Rough Sleeper


    Just because you refuse to believe in the truth behind Christmas (and the catholic faith in general) in no way makes it a lie and in fact you have no right making accusations like that. Religion is an important part of a child's upbringing and I pity the children who are born into atheist familys and denied it.
    I can't really bring myself to believe that you're an actual person. I just imagine you're a bored Trinity Arts student posing as an offensive country stereotype in his ample spare time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Bootros Bootros


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    This is unbelievable, i was one of the longest to deny it, but there is no way you are a real person with these opinions in 2015

    Not since the great Catholic purge of 2014 anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Not since the great Catholic purge of 2014 anyways.

    I know a 72 year old retired guard who would share a lot of nox's opinions, but i refuse to believe anyone my age can be that narrow minded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,744 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Of course its important for them to be brought up as Catholics. Thankfully in this country the vast majority of schools are catholic schools and teach it so some might pick it up who dont get it at home.

    Schools should be for learning things that are of actual use to a person. If parents want their children to have religious instruction let them do it themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Of course its important for them to be brought up as Catholics. Thankfully in this country the vast majority of schools are catholic schools and teach it so some might pick it up who dont get it at home.

    Why Catholic and not Protestant, Mormon, Sikh, Muslim?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    I know a 72 year old retired guard who would share a lot of nox's opinions

    I don't think nox is too fond of the guards, or the treacherous vile informers who help them.


  • Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    This is unbelievable, i was one of the longest to deny it, but there is no way you are a real person with these opinions in 2015

    I don't think my opinion are much out of the ordinary at all. All I said was I though that it's a good thing for a child to be raised Catholic and it's good that it's taught in schools, you will find many more people who agree with me than disagree. Do you think all the young peope who identify as Catholic or all the young couples who baptise their children and bring them to mass would disagree?
    1st off belief is not a choice, secondly it is not a 'truth', third, Santa is clearly and unambiguously a lie, 5th i every right to make accusations that lying to children is immoral. Religion has caused more problems for children in this country than it ever solved. And taking the leap of speaking for all atheists you can take your pity back because you are the one who needs it, not the poor little atheist children.

    Edit 4th was the catholic faith but i don't have free speech to say what a load of cobblers the doll waving pope espouses is.

    I have come across a very small number of people in my life who have a problem with parents pretending their is a Santa and each and everyone has been a special type of gobs*ite, one mother had to be ran out of my primary school numerous times and got the head eaten of her multiple times by parents until they eventually fecked off out of the area for coming in trying to cause hassle in the school one thing being trying to tell children there was no Santa and that all parents were horrible liars etc. in other worlds your opinions no longer count on my eyes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    I don't think my opinion are much out of the ordinary at all.

    They are, as is your opinion on drink driving for example.


  • Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They are, as is your opinion on drink driving for example.

    Not among a very large number of people in rural areas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Baggy Trousers


    I don't think my opinion are much out of the ordinary at all. All I said was I though that it's a good thing for a child to be raised Catholic and it's good that it's taught in schools, you will find many more people who agree with me than disagree. Do you think all the young peope who identify as Catholic or all the young couples who baptise their children and bring them to mass would disagree?



    I have come across a very small number of people in my life who have a problem with parents pretending their is a Santa and each and everyone has been a special type of gobs*ite, one mother had to be ran out of my primary school numerous times and got the head eaten of her multiple times by parents until they eventually fecked off out of the area for coming in trying to cause hassle in the school one thing being trying to tell children there was no Santa and that all parents were horrible liars etc. in other worlds your opinions no longer count on my eyes.

    Where exactly do you live and what year is it there?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    I don't think my opinion are much out of the ordinary at all. All I said was I though that it's a good thing for a child to be raised Catholic and it's good that it's taught in schools, you will find many more people who agree with me than disagree. Do you think all the young peope who identify as Catholic or all the young couples who baptise their children and bring them to mass would disagree?



    I have come across a very small number of people in my life who have a problem with parents pretending their is a Santa and each and everyone has been a special type of gobs*ite, one mother had to be ran out of my primary school numerous times and got the head eaten of her multiple times by parents until they eventually fecked off out of the area for coming in trying to cause hassle in the school one thing being trying to tell children there was no Santa and that all parents were horrible liars etc. in other worlds your opinions no longer count on my eyes.

    There IS no Santa, and the parents WERE lying.

    Emperor's new clothes indeed.


  • Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where exactly do you live and what year is it there?

    Ireland, 2015.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Baggy Trousers


    Ireland, 2015.

    Where in Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    I can't really bring myself to believe that you're an actual person. I just imagine you're a bored Trinity Arts student posing as an offensive country stereotype in his ample spare time.

    I agree, I am fairly sure that Nox is just a piece of performance art. He keep getting the reaction he is looking for, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    I don't think my opinion are much out of the ordinary at all. All I said was I though that it's a good thing for a child to be raised Catholic and it's good that it's taught in schools, you will find many more people who agree with me than disagree. Do you think all the young peope who identify as Catholic or all the young couples who baptise their children and bring them to mass would disagree?



    I have come across a very small number of people in my life who have a problem with parents pretending their is a Santa and each and everyone has been a special type of gobs*ite, one mother had to be ran out of my primary school numerous times and got the head eaten of her multiple times by parents until they eventually fecked off out of the area for coming in trying to cause hassle in the school one thing being trying to tell children there was no Santa and that all parents were horrible liars etc. in other worlds your opinions no longer count on my eyes.
    We have no problem with you being a Catholic, or whatever you want to be. What we do have a problem with is you claiming that the best way to raise a child is as a Catholic! That's fcuking ridiculous! Religion is an extremely toxic thing and raising your child to live in fear and believe they are better than others because of your belief is wrong!

    As for the whole Santa thing, I have no opinion on that. Personally I agree with it as it makes Christmas so magical and have them believe that their is magic in the world. I figured out Santa wasn't real and I didn't care too much!


  • Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There IS no Santa, and the parents WERE lying.

    Emperor's new clothes indeed.

    It was none of that wagons business though, luckily Santa wasn't ruined on anyone as either it wasn't heard by the children or they just they she was an idiot (which she was). This was many years ago, it's rare you find someone wanting to ruin the fun of Christmas for children.
    Where in Ireland?

    Not of anyone's concern.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Not among a very large number of people in rural areas.

    The rural aspect of which confers no additional validity upon it whatsoever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,940 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I don't think my opinion are much out of the ordinary at all. All I said was I though that it's a good thing for a child to be raised Catholic and it's good that it's taught in schools, you will find many more people who agree with me than disagree. Do you think all the young peope who identify as Catholic or all the young couples who baptise their children and bring them to mass would disagree?


    Well I can only speak for myself when I say I strongly disagree with religion being taught in school. I think when it comes to matters such as religion and sexuality that it is a parents responsibility to educate their children in these matters, rather than fobbing it off on the school. Religion and religious beliefs should be kept outside the school walls and the time given over to subjects that teach facts, not faith.

    I also disagree with parents who insist on putting their children in religious ethos schools, and then complaining that their children are being taught religion. What did they actually expect? By refusing to place their children in religious ethos schools, it would force the Government to act rather than simply carry on ignoring the issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    I don't think my opinion are much out of the ordinary at all. All I said was I though that it's a good thing for a child to be raised Catholic and it's good that it's taught in schools, you will find many more people who agree with me than disagree. Do you think all the young peope who identify as Catholic or all the young couples who baptise their children and bring them to mass would disagree.

    No you didn't, you said that if a parent doesn't bring their child up as a Catholic (not religious, specifically Catholic )
    They are wrong, their children are to be pitied and the school should force Catholicism on them. They are quite frankly disgusting views.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Just the Catholic children though right? Since all the rest are "wrong"

    And will fry in Hell while Nox pees on them from a height.:rolleyes:


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