buying foxes

lab man · 13-01-2015 05:48AM #1

Hi lads i heard at the weekend that fox skin was being bought again. Is this true and if so whos buying them thanks lab man

Snakezilla · 13-01-2015 07:37AM

This was brought up at an NARGC meeting I was at last year... Supposedly the Canadians are going mad looking for Fox and Mink ! Never bothered looking into it, would rather keep the tails for our own club to put towards the vermin count.

sniperman · 13-01-2015 04:44PM

would they have to be head shot for resale or what?

ecr · 13-01-2015 05:09PM

No I sold them for years don't matter where shot as long as no damage to skin

sniperman · 13-01-2015 06:49PM

Where would one have to place a shot in order not to damage the skin?for example with a 223, 55 grain

ecr · 13-01-2015 06:58PM

In my opinion for selling pelts the 223 is too strong some may agree some may disagree I've tried them all the best gun and only gun I used when selling pelts was a hornet a bit expensive for ammunition but in my mind it's the perfect round for the job now the 223 is some round don't get me wrong but it will do more damage than the hornet and another thing they don't want when selling pelts us stitched ones cos as soon as it goes through the defleshing machine the stitching will reopen so bare that in mind, as for them buying pelts I haven't heard anything about this from the buyers I did sell to an it's too late in the season for them to start now but I would like to see it happening in the future as there is so many people jobless it's a handy income on the side anything else you need to know don't hesitate to ask

djflawless · 13-01-2015 07:46PM

Crouching shotgun, hidden hunter style

Would they have their own procedures for the way pelts would be dried/preserved??

ecr · 13-01-2015 07:52PM

I was selling pelts dried as you would get more money for them it's upto u if u want to cure/dry them but yes there is a procedure

dodderangler · 13-01-2015 07:55PM

As regards to skinning them where did you do it and what way?
Did you bring em home?
I was thinking of doing it using the washing line to hang em and skin em from there

djflawless · 13-01-2015 08:00PM

Can't imagine the money for 1 would cover my time to be handling the smelly f@#ker that much!

dodderangler · 13-01-2015 08:06PM

Their stinkin alri but I wouldn't be selling it. I done same with rabbit. Skinned it and tacked it with salt left it out for two weeks and it was lovely and soft so was thinking of a good winter fox skin to do the same

ecr · 13-01-2015 08:11PM

dodderangler wrote: »

As regards to skinning them where did you do it and what way?
Did you bring em home?
I was thinking of doing it using the washing line to hang em and skin em from there

I had a shed set up for it brought them all home you have to be careful wen skinning as you must not cut the skin I starts at the rear run the knife upto the chin of the fox then slice the inside of the legs then pull the skin off the 4 legs first I made a rack for skinning I place the 2 back legs onto it so the carcass hung head facing down tail is next this is the hardest part pull it down a little off the bike using gloves for grip then spin it an the bone will slip out of the skin then pull the skin downwards wit some strength straight down to the head at this stage you will need to do some knife work around the head again without cutting the skin that's how it's done my way anyway

djflawless · 13-01-2015 08:12PM

dodderangler wrote: »

Their stinkin alri but I wouldn't be selling it. I done same with rabbit. Skinned it and tacked it with salt left it out for two weeks and it was lovely and soft so was thinking of a good winter fox skin to do the same

Would skin on inside be hard and leathery after the process?

ecr · 13-01-2015 08:15PM

I used to heat dry them with air I wud dry 200 skins at a time

dodderangler · 13-01-2015 08:17PM

djflawless wrote: »

Would skin on inside be hard and leathery after the process?

It was but but I put some leather oil ( same as I used to put to soften my falconry glove) on it to soften it up.
I used the skin for ferrets to play and mess with but now I havint a ferret to me name. Really hard to find any now and suppose it'll be June or July when they'll all be havin kits

djflawless · 13-01-2015 08:26PM

I think it will be longer for me to get herself to agree to having more after the last 1 bit the hand off her

dodderangler · 13-01-2015 08:27PM

Ah they all bite at some stage but my misuse just will not hold one at all so I'm safe to have one but just so hard to get one now days

djflawless · 13-01-2015 08:33PM

Harder still to get a good 1!!

dodderangler · 13-01-2015 08:59PM

Never had a bad one in terms of hunting. Had one who was an absolute ba5tard for bitin. Literally running at your hand once it went in his cage.
Had some that'd always kill and some who would just flush

John_Rambo · 13-01-2015 10:43PM

Those viking, prehistory historical reenactment gangs would pay proper money for native Irish furs. I mean it, I was at a festival a while ago and they were there, they had a few scabby furs (which they were very proud of) and I KNOW they'd love some genuine ones to make cloaks and other stuff with. They had one fox fur that they displayed and it was a centre piece.

Kevhog1988 · 15-01-2015 11:29PM

dodderangler wrote: »

It was but but I put some leather oil ( same as I used to put to soften my falconry glove) on it to soften it up.
I used the skin for ferrets to play and mess with but now I havint a ferret to me name. Really hard to find any now and suppose it'll be June or July when they'll all be havin kits

i know a lad who keeps a few. Can ask if he knows of any

lab man · 16-01-2015 09:43AM

Thanks for the replies lads pity none are being bought twould be a bit of cash in .

lakesider · 16-01-2015 09:51AM

John_Rambo wrote:

Those viking, prehistory historical reenactment gangs would pay proper money for native Irish furs. I mean it, I was at a festival a while ago and they were there, they had a few scabby furs (which they were very proud of) and I KNOW they'd love some genuine ones to make cloaks and other stuff with. They had one fox fur that they displayed and it was a centre piece

once again rip off Ireland rears its head!..quality tanned fox skins sell for 50 euro in Europe!

John_Rambo · 16-01-2015 10:56AM

Did you contact the reenactment lads? Were they looking for a lot less money than the mainland European reenactment acts?!

lakesider · 16-01-2015 11:24AM

what the heck has that to do with the value of a fox fur??..the mind boggles!

Vegeta · 16-01-2015 11:35AM

If the value of a fox fur to the party mentioned above is in-line with the €50 euro price you quoted then I'd be interested in hearing why that is considered an example of rip off Ireland

cork shooter · 16-01-2015 09:41PM

ecr wrote: »

In my opinion for selling pelts the 223 is too strong some may agree some may disagree I've tried them all the best gun and only gun I used when selling pelts was a hornet a bit expensive for ammunition but in my mind it's the perfect round for the job now the 223 is some round don't get me wrong but it will do more damage than the hornet and another thing they don't want when selling pelts us stitched ones cos as soon as it goes through the defleshing machine the stitching will reopen so bare that in mind, as for them buying pelts I haven't heard anything about this from the buyers I did sell to an it's too late in the season for them to start now but I would like to see it happening in the future as there is so many people jobless it's a handy income on the side anything else you need to know don't hesitate to ask

I worked with a lad in oz and his father culled foxes for a living on various sheep stations . His job as a young lad was skinning and drying the numerous pelts. This was done by pinning them to a piece of ply wood and stretching them as much as possible without ripping them .this air dried them and they were paid according to the length of pelt. Round of choice to minimise pelt damage was a .17 rem centre fire .

ecr · 17-01-2015 12:50AM

That's grand air drying them but it takes more time Mt pelts were being collected 2 times a week so had to be dried fast the .17 centre fire imo is a bad round way to fast

John_Rambo · 17-01-2015 07:40PM

lakesider wrote: »

what the heck has that to do with the value of a fox fur??..the mind boggles!

Well, you quoted me regarding the reenactment groups (without the quote marks) and then ranted on about rip off Ireland. Unboggle your mind and tell my why you did that?

I was simply (and helpfully) pointing hunters to a group that might be genuinely interested in fox furs.

Lads, do some googling, there's even companies that supply clothing, jewelry, weaponry for prehistory reenactment groups. I'd be very surprised if there isn't money to be made.

retro d · 19-01-2015 02:35PM

howya lads , whats the lowest you want for them would you skin clean and dry em for five euro , would every tom dik and harry be out after them if there was cash , I can just see it nice warm bath loads of Radox a few scented candles

aaakev · 19-01-2015 03:05PM

retro d wrote: »

howya lads , whats the lowest you want for them would you skin clean and dry em for five euro , would every tom dik and harry be out after them if there was cash , I can just see it nice warm bath loads of Radox a few scented candles

Would hardly be worth the effort for that low a price!

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