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bangkok · 09-01-2015 09:23PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

No it isn't.

so whats your best 11? that was my opinion..

bucketybuck · 09-01-2015 09:32PM

bangkok wrote: »

so whats your best 11? that was my opinion..

And my opinion is that the team is badly unbalanced trying to squeeze in 3 strikers. Our performances this season support my opinion.

If you want all the best players on the field, then sure, play Rooney, RVP and Falcao. If you want the best team, then drop one of them.

bangkok · 09-01-2015 09:47PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

And my opinion is that the team is badly unbalanced trying to squeeze in 3 strikers. Our performances this season support my opinion.

If you want all the best players on the field, then sure, play Rooney, RVP and Falcao. If you want the best team, then drop one of them.

in fairness, we have had a serious injury list, constant chopping and changing, hard to get good rhythm with the team but unbeaten in 11, onwards and upwards.

RobertKK · 09-01-2015 10:09PM

Last summer and this transfer window so far under LVG:

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ/status/553665307777454083

Ordinary man · 09-01-2015 11:41PM

I'd prefer to see united with just 1 of rvp/falcao up front. Atm the ball is played up to them quickly but neither of them can hold onto it. I'd prefer to see
herrera

carrick---di maria

mata----rooney

rvp

Play through the middle mainly and spread it out to fb's when they get into space. The current tactics seem to get it wide everytime and teams are ready for that.

10-01-2015 04:26AM

Our current GK team at school...

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ericzeking · 10-01-2015 09:05AM

Just flicked on SSN there and they are talking about ddg...they showed a compilation of this seasons saves in quick succession....well holy god!

glued · 10-01-2015 09:06AM

Does anyone really think that Victor Valdes came here to sit on the bench? He's a very good goalkeeper and would start for most of the teams in the Champions League bar maybe two or three. Unless his knee is is a terrible condition then I imagine that he's a replacement for De Gea.

One of Mendes' close journalists wrote a piece in AS saying that essentially De Gea feels as if he has completed his time at United.

i would like to see De Gea improve his distribution this year. He's usually one of the better keepers but for some reason this season his kicking hasn't been to his usual standard. I wouldn't sell him for anything less than £50M. Anything less than that and we're being robbed.

The_Kew_Tour · 10-01-2015 09:13AM

My gut feeling is that DDG will stay around for least few more seasons.

I think he will eventually move back to Spain, at some stage, but hopefully if we get CL again we will see him not even think about leaving for while.

newballsplease · 10-01-2015 09:13AM

Apparently DDG is in talks for a new contract anyway.

Lord TSC · 10-01-2015 09:44AM

glued wrote: »

Does anyone really think that Victor Valdes came here to sit on the bench? He's a very good goalkeeper and would start for most of the teams in the Champions League bar maybe two or three.

Very few teams, especially top teams in the CL, would take a risk on someone of his age who hasn't played a competitive game in months and months, and make him their first choice. Thats without factoring in the wages he would want, and the fact that the teams who would take that risk then would be of a lower standard than what he's used to.

But at United, he gets to play and train with one of Europe's finest teams, he's not got a huge amount of expectation on him as he continues his rehabilitation, he's getting a wage he wants with the possibility over the next 18-30 months to win stuff, and he gets to work with a manager he respects. He should compete for first team time, all players in the squad should.

But honestly, for United, it's a no risk backup keeper with the potential to challenge for a first team spot who brings experience, but who is a short term back up. If Valdes was signed as De Gea's replacement, it would be a bloody disgrace, because we don't know what level he's at.

Backstreet Moyes · 10-01-2015 10:56AM

I am amazed Liverpool didn't approach Valdes or maybe he turned them down. He is a very underrated goalkeeper but i hope he is not a replacement for De Gea.

Lord TSC · 10-01-2015 10:57AM

Nuts102 wrote: »

I am amazed Liverpool didn't approach Valdes or maybe he turned them down. He is a very underrated goalkeeper but i hope he is not a replacement for De Gea.

According to Andy Mitten...

Liverpool wanted Valdes and there was an offer from Juventus, too. He didn't feel right about either club, especially Liverpool even though their goalkeeping situation is far more fraught than United's and he could have been a realistic first-choice custodian.

Donnielighto · 10-01-2015 11:22AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

According to Andy Mitten...

Liverpool wanted Valdes and there was an offer from Juventus, too. He didn't feel right about either club, especially Liverpool even though their goalkeeping situation is far more fraught than United's and he could have been a realistic first-choice custodian.

Ha! Must really have a man crush on LVG.

The_Kew_Tour · 10-01-2015 11:29AM

No question about us having best choice of Goalkeepers at minute in World.

10-01-2015 11:30AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

No queation about us having best choice of Goalkeepers at minute in World.

Unless that question is "What about Chelsea?" :P

Will I Amnt · 10-01-2015 11:31AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

No queation about us having best choice of Goalkeepers at minute in World.

Awaits Chelsea fan influx...

Donnielighto · 10-01-2015 11:32AM

Liam O wrote: »

Unless that question is "What about Chelsea?" :P

What would you know you closet pool fan

Lucas Hood · 10-01-2015 11:32AM

Donnielighto wrote: »

Ha! Must really have a man crush on LVG.

Think Van Gaal gave him his debut at barca.

The_Kew_Tour · 10-01-2015 11:34AM

Na still better.

Donnielighto · 10-01-2015 11:41AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Awaits Chelsea fan influx...

Chelsea have revolutionised the approach to goalkeeping. The best goalkeeper over the last decade and a half, a rock, a bastion, Petr Cech. Resurrected after a near death experience to return as the most complete keeper we've seen. A leader who brought Chelsea leagues, cups and a champions league.

Now the best young keeper in the world nay the best keeper in the world. A domineering presence already showing the skills of Lev Yashin, the dominance of Kahn and the frame of Van der Sar. No better player to mentor the young Belgian. A colossus for Athleti and a hero of the Vicente Calderón. Lightning footwork, unquestioned bravery, jedi like reflexes. A commanding and calming presence allowing the beautiful game to be played out in front of him and the distribution to instigate attacks like a regista.

MagicIRL · 10-01-2015 11:45AM

**** me the Chelsea thread must be a hard read with ****e like that being posted. Ugh.

bangkok · 10-01-2015 12:05PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Very few teams, especially top teams in the CL, would take a risk on someone of his age who hasn't played a competitive game in months and months, and make him their first choice. Thats without factoring in the wages he would want, and the fact that the teams who would take that risk then would be of a lower standard than what he's used to.

But at United, he gets to play and train with one of Europe's finest teams, he's not got a huge amount of expectation on him as he continues his rehabilitation, he's getting a wage he wants with the possibility over the next 18-30 months to win stuff, and he gets to work with a manager he respects. He should compete for first team time, all players in the squad should.

But honestly, for United, it's a no risk backup keeper with the potential to challenge for a first team spot who brings experience, but who is a short term back up. If Valdes was signed as De Gea's replacement, it would be a bloody disgrace, because we don't know what level he's at.

a bit OTT, yea you dont know what level he is at, but he has been training with United for the last 3 or 4 months so i would imagine van gaal and the goalkeeping coach know he is at a very high level or else he wouldnt have been offered an 18 month contract with the option of another year..

Nalz · 10-01-2015 12:06PM

stankratz wrote: »

Our current GK team at school...

poor Amos and Johnstone!

Lindergaard and Amos are surely on their way. Would one leave during this window?

Manutd_4life · 10-01-2015 12:45PM

Trilla wrote: »

poor Amos and Johnstone!

Lindergaard and Amos are surely on their way. Would one leave during this window?

They both kind of have to. Both have great potential but just are not good enough to beat the likes of De Gea and Valdes. Lindegaard could very much fit into many other BPL sides

Lord TSC · 10-01-2015 01:12PM

bangkok wrote: »

a bit OTT, yea you dont know what level he is at, but he has been training with United for the last 3 or 4 months so i would imagine van gaal and the goalkeeping coach know he is at a very high level or else he wouldnt have been offered an 18 month contract with the option of another year..

No one can know what level he's actually at; training and reserve matches are not the same as playing in competitive league and cup matches, and certainly not an indicator if he would be a "replacement" for De Gea.
Furthermore, an 18 month contract is as non-committal as they come and offers nothing with regards assurances. By the summer, he'll be down to 12 months (right, with an extra year) and could easily be sold for a small fee for first team football. It screams "Backup until we see how you are or until we find someone better" contract.

yabadabado · 10-01-2015 01:20PM

I think people saying DDG will leave in the summer for Real ,are forgetting that Casillas is far from finished.He will be 34 at the start of next season so he could have at least 2 more years left.I wouldn't be worried about DDG leaving this year but could see him leave in 2 or 3 years time.

keane2097 · 10-01-2015 01:23PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

No one can know what level he's actually at; training and reserve matches are not the same as playing in competitive league and cup matches, and certainly not an indicator if he would be a "replacement" for De Gea.

I really don't think you have the expertise to announce the above as fact.

Van Gaal seems to think he's capable of judging Valdes from three months of training him fine.

Rather than your assertion that his level is still an unknown, I'd be more inclined to think it would be laughable for a coach at that level not to be able to say with a high degree of confidence whether a player is good enough or not after training him all this time.

Donnielighto · 10-01-2015 01:27PM

yabadabado wrote: »

I think people saying DDG will leave in the summer for Real ,are forgetting that Casillas is far from finished.He will be 34 at the start of next season so he could have at least 2 more years left.I wouldn't be worried about DDG leaving this year but could see him leave in 2 or 3 years time.

Casillas is done, I thought he would have lasted longer.

bangkok · 10-01-2015 01:36PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

No one can know what level he's actually at; training and reserve matches are not the same as playing in competitive league and cup matches, and certainly not an indicator if he would be a "replacement" for De Gea.
Furthermore, an 18 month contract is as non-committal as they come and offers nothing with regards assurances. By the summer, he'll be down to 12 months (right, with an extra year) and could easily be sold for a small fee for first team football. It screams "Backup until we see how you are or until we find someone better" contract.

well, its common at united for players over 30 to only get 1 year contracts, so the fact he has signed an 18 month contract with the option of another makes me think he wont be sold in the summer

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