Lampard never signed for New York City and is solely registered for Manchester City

Hollister11 · 09-01-2015 01:48AM #1

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/08/frank-lampard-manchester-city-premier-league-response-new-york-city-fc

What do you think of this ?
I always thought he signed for NYC

GavRedKing · 09-01-2015 01:51AM

Its very messy, I dont expect the FA to anything about it though as the ramifications of potential 3rd party ownership is involved.
If they do and its a big if, City will only get a slap on the wrist and nothing severe.

Professional Griefer · 09-01-2015 02:17AM

https://twitter.com/ChelseaFC/status/492321195636043777

:pac:

Mr.Nice Guy · 09-01-2015 03:03AM

I thought the normal protocol was you go to New York City and get mugged, not you don't go to New York City but mug them.

Corholio · 09-01-2015 03:59AM

The MLS can sign all the Gerrards they want, but when they allow this kind of stuff to go on they will never grow as a league and be taken any way seriously.

duffman13 · 09-01-2015 04:06AM

Corholio wrote: »

The MLS can sign all the Gerrards they want, but when they allow this kind of stuff to go on they will never grow as a league and be taken any way seriously.

In fairness it looks like the MLS has been mugged off in this one. Realistically what can the league do about this?

Corholio · 09-01-2015 05:25AM

duffman13 wrote: »

In fairness it looks like the MLS has been mugged off in this one. Realistically what can the league do about this?

They announced his signing and advertised season tickets based on his signing. Either the MLS knew about this 'no formal contract' with NY, or they didn't. Either way it shows them up as outrageously amateur and pandering to City's part ownership.

GavRedKing · 09-01-2015 09:56AM

If Lampard is owned by CFG and not City, then hes at City via 3rd party ownership.

At the very worst, most severe punishment, City would get points docked.

Although in saying that, I dont think City with their team of people would be silly enough not to know this and allow it to happen, if it has, then again, I cant see the FA coming down hard on them, apart from a bit of outrage state side, which is justified, I cant see any implactions on this side of the Atlantic for City or Lamps.

MonkeyTennis · 09-01-2015 10:59AM

Not sure of the legal ramifications of it but it stinks to high heaven

CSF · 09-01-2015 11:01AM

Haven't the FA already come out and said they're happy with Lampard's ownership situation?

He will go to the US in July IMO same as Gerrard.

GavRedKing · 09-01-2015 11:14AM

CSF wrote: »

Haven't the FA already come out and said they're happy with Lampard's ownership situation?

He will go to the US in July IMO same as Gerrard.

Its up to the CFG to either out and say they knew about Lampard joining City and thus, in effect, lying to the fans of the MLS about Lampard or that Lampard is registered with the CFG and makes his deal with City a 3rd party deal.

CSF · 09-01-2015 11:34AM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Its up to the CFG to either out and say they knew about Lampard joining City and thus, in effect, lying to the fans of the MLS about Lampard or that Lampard is registered with the CFG and makes his deal with City a 3rd party deal.

Or alternatively, say nothing, seeing as the Premier League have already confirmed they're happy with the situation.

I suspect this will be their approach.

GavRedKing · 09-01-2015 11:35AM

I can imagine City will be urging them to do so in this situation alright.

CSF · 09-01-2015 11:39AM

GavRedKing wrote: »

I can imagine City will be urging them to do so in this situation alright.

Realistically, aren't they City?

Nalz · 09-01-2015 12:48PM

All this clubs linked with, and\or owning other clubs is a load ****

CSF · 09-01-2015 12:51PM

Trilla wrote: »

All this clubs linked with, and\or owning other clubs is a load ****

Why?

Diabhal Beag · 09-01-2015 12:51PM

I'd like to think this is all happening to spite this fan
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Nalz · 09-01-2015 01:08PM

CSF wrote: »

Why?

I understand the benefits of it, hence the vulgar word beginning with 'w' I used has benefits also.

I just don't like it all the time, prefer to keep it simple. Complications like this is a part of modern football I detest

The joint ownership of players, especially when not owned by clubs gets on me nerves big shhytle!

CSF · 09-01-2015 01:22PM

Trilla wrote: »

I understand the benefits of it, hence the vulgar word beginning with 'w' I used has benefits also.

I just don't like it all the time, prefer to keep it simple. Complications like this is a part of modern football I detest

The joint ownership of players, especially when not owned by clubs gets on me nerves big shhytle!

I agree with the joint ownership and 3rd party ownership but don't really see the problem with City and New York being commonly owned, with City loaning youth players to New York and City snapping up players from New York that are good enough for an EPL title race.

As long as Lampard's contract is in fact with City, or there's a valid loan contract from New York to Man City, I think it's fine.

But I agree that footballers should not be owned by individuals or 3rd party companies.

Giggsy11 · 09-01-2015 01:39PM

CSF wrote: »

I agree with the joint ownership and 3rd party ownership but don't really see the problem with City and New York being commonly owned, with City loaning youth players to New York and City snapping up players from New York that are good enough for an EPL title race.

As long as Lampard's contract is in fact with City, or there's a valid loan contract from New York to Man City, I think it's fine.

But I agree that footballers should not be owned by individuals or 3rd party companies.

It can also be used to bypass FFP.

For example, NY club buys Mangala and sells him to City for free. If City wants to cover up any losses then sell their least important player to NY for hefty sum, just like how they reported that they sold some asset (players database) to Australian club for 20 plus million.

GavRedKing · 09-01-2015 01:47PM

CSF wrote: »

Realistically, aren't they City?

Ya, as an umbrella company to the people that own City.

Still dont think anything will happen at all.

LuckyLloyd · 09-01-2015 03:20PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

It can also be used to bypass FFP.

For example, NY club buys Mangala and sells him to City for free. If City wants to cover up any losses then sell their least important player to NY for hefty sum, just like how they reported that they sold some asset (players database) to Australian club for 20 plus million.

And if it isn't this method, there will be some other way to beat FFP.

CSF · 09-01-2015 03:27PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

It can also be used to bypass FFP.

For example, NY club buys Mangala and sells him to City for free. If City wants to cover up any losses then sell their least important player to NY for hefty sum, just like how they reported that they sold some asset (players database) to Australian club for 20 plus million.

That'll be the nature of FFP for a while.

Club finds loophole, UEFA closes loophole, club finds another loophole, repeat.

jaymcg91 · 09-01-2015 03:58PM

I want to make it completely clear about my situation as I have read a lot of lies and nonsense over the last few days. When released from Chelsea last year at the end of my contract I signed a commitment to play in NYCFC for two years starting January 1st 2015. I was then offered the chance to train and be part of the Man City squad in the interim to keep myself in the best shape going into New York.This period has since been extended by Man City and I now will start playing for NYCFC at the end of this current Premier League season. There has always been a constant dialogue between all parties in this time to find the best solution for everyone. I can say that I am very excited about arriving in New York and giving everything to the team to make us a success in the MLS as soon as possible. Thanks everyone for your ongoing support and I wish everyone a healthy and happy 2015!

From his Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/franklampard?ref=br_tf

bucketybuck · 09-01-2015 04:14PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

For example, NY club buys Mangala and sells him to City for free. If City wants to cover up any losses then sell their least important player to NY for hefty sum, just like how they reported that they sold some asset (players database) to Australian club for 20 plus million.

I used to do this in championship manager all the time, back in the day.

Pro. F · 09-01-2015 04:22PM

jaymcg91 wrote: »

From his Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/franklampard?ref=br_tf

So Lampard is now saying that Man City are lying to the Premier League. Good one Frank, thanks for clearing it up.

Giggsy11 · 09-01-2015 04:42PM

Pro. F wrote: »

So Lampard is now saying that Man City are lying to the Premier League. Good one Frank, thanks for clearing it up.

City are saying NY announcing signing of Lampard was an error, City announcing him signing on loan was an error. Lol too many errors to make anyone believe the BS story. Even Pelligrini in so many interviews said they would like to extend Lampard's loan, why did he say that if Lampard was never on loan. Maybe one more error.

GavRedKing · 09-01-2015 04:44PM

Only fair way to deal with it is deduct points for every game he played in :pac:

bad2dabone · 09-01-2015 06:46PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Only fair way to deal with it is deduct points for every game he played in :pac:

Absolutely

Dempsey · 09-01-2015 07:32PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Only fair way to deal with it is deduct points for every game he played in :pac:

If his registration isnt correct, 3-0 results for every match he has minutes on the field is the minimum that should happen.

Billy86 · 09-01-2015 07:39PM

Here's the thing though - no matter if it is deemed incorrect or not, the league won't do a single thing. The depth of City's pockets if it comes to a legal war of attrition simply scares the sh*t out of the Premiership and probably even UEFA/FIFA, I would imagine.

Lampard never signed for New York City and is solely registered for Manchester City

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