Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Orizio · 09-01-2015 04:13AM

Pretty crazy playing Lee a day after the Harty, and the leaving on top of that.

Orizio · 09-01-2015 04:15AM

What did Barry Lawton score TTM.

denishurley · 09-01-2015 09:23AM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Collins superb keeper all he needs going forward is patient as not if he plays senior just when in he's got it all and nash is main man buy once he's patient he will wear corl senior jersey

Darren mac ahead him but Darren mac not playing in goals club may go against him

Doesn't Collins play outfield for Ballinhassig too?

Richmond Ultra · 09-01-2015 11:27AM

denishurley wrote: »

Doesn't Collins play outfield for Ballinhassig too?

Yes he plays corner forward for the hassig. Martin Coleman is in goal for them.

thinkstoomuch1 · 09-01-2015 11:30AM

Orizio wrote: »

What did Barry Lawton score TTM.

Point from play

Figsy32 · 09-01-2015 11:30AM

Orizio wrote: »

What did Barry Lawton score TTM.

Barry Lawton got 4 points. 3 from frees and 1 from play. Wouldn't have said he stood out but wasn't destroyed either.

Brian Lawton got a point and looked lively.

thinkstoomuch1 · 09-01-2015 11:37AM

Figsy32 wrote: »

Barry Lawton got 4 points. 3 from frees and 1 from play! Wouldn't have said he stood out but wasn't destroyed either!

Brian Lawton got a point and looked lively!

I'd agree but that my point didn't stand put

Look at Cormac murphy and Anthony Spillane much younger lawton Spillane is yet making statement intent

Lawton doing okay imo isn't good enough in been around senior panel while now where likes Spillane young o donughe young luke meade another example are all making real statement

Lawton trying get ahead Cooper maybes walsh harnedy coughlan lehane good or lively isn't enough

Lively in he was busy at times but certainly imo didn't stand out at all
People said same for naughton for ages he's lively in he runs lot etc and fast never was he think action though
Cork have to simply follow kilkenny ruthless streak

Figsy32 · 09-01-2015 11:42AM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I'd agree but that my point didn't stand put

Look at Cormac murphy and Anthony Spillane much younger lawton Spillane is yet making statement intent

Lawton doing okay imo isn't good enough in been around senior panel while now where likes Spillane young o donughe young luke meade another example are all making real statement

Lawton trying get ahead Cooper maybes walsh harnedy coughlan lehane good or lively isn't enough

Lively in he was busy at times but certainly imo didn't stand out at all
People said same for naughton for ages he's lively in he runs lot etc and fast never was he think action though
Cork have to simply follow kilkenny ruthless streak

Yeah I'd agree that he didn't stand out hugely compared to Spillane, Cooper etc who he'd be looking to get ahead of. Still did well though.

I was a little disappointed with Colm Barry's performance. Struggled with Foran.

thinkstoomuch1 · 09-01-2015 11:48AM

denishurley wrote: »

Doesn't Collins play outfield for Ballinhassig too?

He does Denis

I would be thinking though nash is going be keepers for few years with cork and by time that comes free possibly collins would be in goal at that stage for club as while collins is good outfield he's absolutely as you know highely regarded as keeper and I could be wrong but I'd say few years club will play him there help he's cork claim

He's going be good outfield players but ability imo being exceptional goalie truly one of thee greats in mot just corl but indeed the country imo he's agility and shot stopping so young above anything I ever seen imo

How do think Ag do today Denis??
Will they win

Look like won't make game so seventh report be most welcome please

thinkstoomuch1 · 09-01-2015 11:54AM

Figsy32 wrote: »

Yeah I'd agree that he didn't stand out hugely compared to Spillane, Cooper etc who he'd be looking to get ahead of. Still did well though.

I was a little disappointed with Colm Barry's performance. Struggled with Foran.

That's the point of though well isn't good enough if your competitors does more

Barry wasn't great but like said many times don't judge him full back he's not full back

Huge worry me is again failure management realise what good full back play is and again play lad struggled most tomes career at full back corl minor and under twenty one there for senior

Barry is I no doubt a top half back he isn't full back or never will be
Hugely worrying again management don't imo understand full back position
Dennehy charville should be called up as we need cover cahalane gets injured and he's history injury so cork must have cover

Forger about all ireland unless solve full back

Horse84 · 09-01-2015 12:07PM

Did anyone notice landers involvement in the set up last night? It looked as though Matthews was doing all the warm up and I stood near enough to the bench in the second half and couldn't really see him involved on the sideline at all. It was just Jbm, Crowley, Seanie, Matthews and Dr. Con. Good to see jimmy getting very agitated there at times in the second half, he certainly still has the hunger for it no doubt about that

thinkstoomuch1 · 09-01-2015 12:22PM

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/brian-cuthbert-we-had-to-change-way-we-played-305992.html

Fair point he made with Colm but still at same time I'm confused in reason thought differs in Colm was sub v dublin with no club games even played at all and kerry game imo he was well up and running

Imo key questions weren't asked like why was midfield clearly a huge problem all year not rectified???

Why wasn't laoire given game times when he said everyone get games a run them start league???
Why weren't changes made after twenty minute's and instead waited half time kerry game??
If dinneen and laoire not involved this year why not???
Yer cussen hasn't played senior corl five years is????

He's right cork main aim him is move forwards
But that the concern are cork moving forward
Imo thry haven't in now have no designated coach???
That question cork gaa grassroots fans who spent time money going watch cork surely can ask who is coach cork senior football team?!
As it appears cork have no coach in defined role
What's the story with kerrigan and goulding???

Kelly confirm in southern star he's back but what about the rest
Good article but lot other questions not asked
Why Andrew sullivan persisted with around nine out ten games then discarded such he walked away????
Will cork consider away training camp this year??

Will or have thry video analyst majority training etc
Will organisation be better this year??

Key questions what is the minimum standard he expect cork this year in what will he say if cork don't achieve then he'll say we didn't make progress
Nobody expect corl win all ireland this year but has be certain standard set
In fairness all credit due he acknowledge corl fans passionate gaa men and have right questions things
I geuinely admire him for that
Every body wants him do well. Not point point is on what we see huge concerns

And what system cork playing sunday?! Does anyone please know
Is ot a blanket as by team he picked it's not with three full forwards

thinkstoomuch1 · 09-01-2015 03:20PM

Half time

2-4 Thurles Ag mhurie 0- 7

Butler and Mccarthy two brilliant goals Thurles

Huge wind seems bit Ag so big second half to come could still win

Butler having stormer
Ag got make positional changes imo

dcrosskid · 09-01-2015 03:56PM

Thurles won 2.8 to 1.10 I heard.

thinkstoomuch1 · 09-01-2015 04:43PM

Better team won Thurles had lot wides

Ag had glorious chance level last play games point on went for goal and it was saved

Thurles are good side but they can be beaten imo

dcrosskid · 09-01-2015 05:15PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Better team won Thurles had lot wides

Ag had glorious chance level last play games point on went for goal and it was saved

Thurles are good side but they can be beaten imo

I heard Thurles were the better team alright but made it hard for themselves. I agree though, they are definitely beatable but I don't think there is any stand out team compared to other years.

Smith614 · 09-01-2015 10:25PM

If UL have a fairly strong squad they could beat the Cork team selected for Saturday. The half forward line wouldn't crack eggs at that level. JBM should be selecting a team guaranteed to win as there could be a few good games in preparation for league.

thinkstoomuch1 · 10-01-2015 01:54AM

Ul could be danger to cork but if cork empty bench fast should win

Ul are coached by brian lohan, james moran, and Ken Ralph who played both tipp and clare

The cork half forward line has huge ask v likely if it start Ul unit could be featuring tom ryan Dan morrisey or jack Browne could be there

Ul also have conor martin Kilkenney, midfield could be john mcgrath tony kelly, and mclirnery clare , Jason forde john fitzgoibbion could be up front

Mark Carmody David mclirnery even Browne could be in full back line
They have quality all over the field and rattles waterford Tuesday in a challenge so they will be tough but cork bench imo will have to be used and will win if so
Cit awaits the next round
I agree cork needs win this and cit as keep games up for league

GAA2TheCore · 10-01-2015 02:06AM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Ul could be danger to cork but if cork empty bench fast should win

Ul are coached by brian lohan, james moran, and Ken Ralph who played both tipp and clare

The cork half forward line has huge ask v likely if it start Ul unit could be featuring tom ryan Dan morrisey or jack Browne could be there

Ul also have conor martin Kilkenney, midfield could be john mcgrath tony kelly, and mclirnery clare , Jason forde john fitzgoibbion could be up front

Mark Carmody David mclirnery even Browne could be in full back line
They have quality all over the field and rattles waterford Tuesday in a challenge so they will be tough but cork bench imo will have to be used and will win if so
Cit awaits the next round
I agree cork needs win this and cit as keep games up for league

Tony Kelly plays with LIT ? Centre forward for them , podge Collins plays with UL

thinkstoomuch1 · 10-01-2015 02:45AM

GAA2TheCore wrote: »

Tony Kelly plays with LIT ? Centre forward for them , podge Collins plays with UL

I had thought that myself but in echo tonight ul

thinkstoomuch1 · 10-01-2015 02:53AM

As I thought Colm Barry lined out for Mary I v Tipperary tonight and beaten But interesting he played at half back

I talked lad at as three cork men last year sub goalie mike Browne under twenty one and mallow pa herhily and barry played and he told me barry hurled lot ball at half back up against bonner maher

Barry won't be eligible mcgrath cup now Cork but imo hope starts either v WExford or ballyhale challenge matches as should imo make league panel

GAA2TheCore · 10-01-2015 03:03AM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I had thought that myself but in echo tonight ul

Nearly 100% sure he plays for LIT under Davy , did he not score goal in fitzgibbon semi final loss to WIT ?

thinkstoomuch1 · 10-01-2015 03:08AM

GAA2TheCore wrote: »

Nearly 100% sure he plays for LIT under Davy , did he not score goal in fitzgibbon semi final loss to WIT ?

He defo played lit as major part beating ul also day lit came through trees on ul ptich make entrance
I just read echo tonight it said he with ul and thought he transferred must been error so if didn't transfer etc

Figsy32 · 10-01-2015 03:26AM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

He defo played lit as major part beating ul also day lit came through trees on ul ptich make entrance
I just read echo tonight it said he with ul and thought he transferred must been error so if didn't transfer etc

He has transferred to UL. Living with Podge Collins and you often see them pucking together on a green in an estate by the college.

He played for LIT against UL last year and was superb. Scored about 1-5 including a very spectacular goal.

Don't know if he'll play tomorrow but will be with UL for fitz 100%.

Fireball07 · 10-01-2015 03:31AM

Yeah Tony Kelly is in UL now, seen him around recently. Not sure if he'll be playing, does Davy not encourage his players to stick with the Clare team at this time of year?

North Cork Star · 10-01-2015 12:06PM

Colm Barry has been played at Centre Back/Wing Back this year for Mary I so far. Played Full Back last year and was full back Under 21. But he seems a bit better and more comfortable out on the wing, as he also played well there when with the Cork Intermediates last year. But still an option for full back as he is physical.

Tony Kelly has moved over to UL this year and Davy, as expected was not happy with his decision and from what I heard, Kelly threatened to leave the Clare panel but I haven't heard anything since. I assume he still is training away with Clare.

Looking forward to today's game. With the players already mentioned above, UL will be a good test for the Cork Hurlers. This is a game where panel places are up for grabs for the league. It would be important to win this game though as more games will give new lads more game time.

May 2015 be a good year for Cork GAA!

GAA2TheCore · 10-01-2015 01:05PM

UL will have a very strong team with the players they already have and with tony kelly after transferring to them I won't be too surprised if they beat cork it will be a interesting game and I reckon UL won't be too far away in the fitzgibbon

thinkstoomuch1 · 10-01-2015 01:21PM

Figsy32 wrote: »

He has transferred to UL. Living with Podge Collins and you often see them pucking together on a green in an estate by the college!

He played for LIT against UL last year and was superb! Scored about 1-5 including a very spectacular goal!

Don't know if he'll play tomorrow but will be with UL for fitz 100%

Thanks lad much appreciated I though as much

Yeah remember that game was at it
That was simply master class absolutely master class in how astute brilliant genuis management by Davy fragging murphy and Jim Browne lit beat ul star studded team which again undermine that management is king of the jungle and I mean king you need great management and look yesterday even Thurles had much better manager in devane ex tipp player than Ag management who imo o grady should had more influence

thinkstoomuch1 · 10-01-2015 01:43PM

GAA2TheCore wrote: »

UL will have a very strong team with the players they already have and with tony kelly after transferring to them I won't be too surprised if they beat cork it will be a interesting game and I reckon UL won't be too far away in the fitzgibbon

Lit even with out kelly won't be far away as fitzgoibbion is in lit

Git nice draw imo

Ran clare to few points challenge match before Xmas and they will be tough

Cit also will be stronger with walsh back
Ul like wise
Ucc also
Should be great competition

Make no mistake about it thry will beat cork if team started finished
Thry will have to make changes fast as half forward is something you would see in limerick under tj in three half forwards that are big physical strong ball winners with no creative scoring presence

Id agree north cork star but at full back confidence crucial as great great I mean great really really great full back like rock, tj, ger cush, greatest all jj had confidence under high ball and barry has no confidence imo in square but put him half back he's complete different player in he's huge confidence at half back

Likes jj you could play half and full
Brian cocoran was the same
Pat mulchay imo was brillant half back but not great corner back etc
Some players can't make transition
Barry is the same
Half back imo brilliant

So far there's been stand out statement by Colm Barry Anthony Spillane and Cormac Murphy who simply have to be on the league panel

Cian mac and lawton and Murray and haughey should be dropped
Colm Spillane who is trying new type treatment get finally sorted if gets clear run will be on panel and he has it

You just know players that will make it

I said Spillane and murphy were destined even last year make it

Nagle who didn't have best game other night I think should be cork panel and id try full back as he's I think can make transition from half to full back

I'd like shane o keoffe added as pa callaghan won't be

I think cork have huge chance all ireland but full back huge huge worry but again cork have Kilkenney and clare to fear thry would quite easily beat limerick judging by their championship panel they named imo there in huge trouble they just can't see it yet, tippeeary be close but could , while none of the rest fear me

Kilkenney is huge test but attitude corl has changed from last year as limerick and ballyhale shamrocks and WExford in challenge matches imo were good choices

Limerick giving you the physical passion challenge
WExford giving you the possession more creative challenge
Ballyhale a mixture of both

Horse84 · 10-01-2015 02:03PM

I usually hate to single out players be it to praise or criticise but I'll make just one exception in this case and for the record im not judging this player just on one challenge game from Thursday night.

Paul haughney has absolutely no
business on any cork panel in my view. I can't honestly see what management see in him at all. He is the personification of what cork do not need in a player. We've had too many like him and can't continue.
There was one passage of play Thursday night which summed him up. Bill cooper (who was excellent throughout) in terrible conditions was fighting for a ball with 3 defenders around him, haughney had been introduced and literally stood off when he saw a ruck developing. I was standing right behind jbm and co and they went ape **** and told haughney as such that he should've helped cooper out. Now if this is a guy that's supposed to be trying to impress and fight for his place it was pitiful. His decision making when he did get the ball was poor and yes he does have good wrists but at this level I'm sorry no not good enough. For his sake I hope I'm proved wrong with him starting against UL but having watched him a good bit in fitzgibbon the last few years I'm not convinced.
Other fringe players and new comers I were impressed by were Cormac Murphy, the odd bad mistake aside real stood out and tried hard and Spillane for ucc who does look a serious talent also.

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