Cork GAA Discussion Thread

thinkstoomuch1 · 31-12-2014 06:29PM

What people views this team

Would people think there's lot club affinity here?????
This reminds me irish rugby team in early nineties picking one cap wonders or just few caps Chris sarjemmouts, niall malone. Etc Kurt mcqulkin cause he was an all black etc

Best of all was Derek mclesse cause he could kick penalties yes got twelve points in par des prince nightmare shame he couldn't run or pass or kick from hand
This cork team brings me back to dark days irish rugby imo lads getting few caps here no chance coming close championship

Now before someone says this won't be championship team then my answer is if so why pick lads in games like this

Cork jersey imo not a free for all must be earned to actually ware it in my opinion

sean mac · 31-12-2014 06:29PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Sean what your assessment overall this team it's strength and weakness??
Your a good judge

This is a selection driven by Cuthbert and davis. Firstly putting ohallorhan in goal is a joke, we know what he offers, price deserves a chance.
The full back line is selected poorly, Jennings should have been put 3 with odonoghue at 6 instead of hodnett from carbery who is NOT good enough for this level. Hazel where did he come from? didn't even stand out on an average skibb team for me.
As for midfield.............Christ almighty, 2 big men neither tough enough for this level of football. Poor old kevin o driscoll, brought back and destined nto to make the summer panel again, as for durrant, he is a decent club player but I guarantee this fella will make it onto the championship panel as Cuthbert will be enamoured with the Kerry connection, this is a bog bishopstown failing.
Cant understand trying Jamie o Sullivan at wing back, another typical town footballer, only at 3 and even then don't think he is up to it.
O deasuianigh another political selection, not good enough not even the best forward the town have -sam oakes far better or even big denis Crowley at 14!!!
John hayes who made zero contribution last year as a senior player gets another start at 14.........beggars belief

thinkstoomuch1 · 31-12-2014 06:32PM

sean mac wrote: »

This is a selection driven by Cuthbert and davis. Firstly putting ohallorhan in goal is a joke, we know what he offers, price deserves a chance.
The full back line is selected poorly, Jennings should have been put 3 with odonoghue at 6 instead of hodnett from carbery who is NOT good enough for this level. Hazel where did he come from? didn't even stand out on an average skibb team for me.
As for midfield.............Christ almighty, 2 big men neither tough enough for this level of football. Poor old kevin o driscoll, brought back and destined nto to make the summer panel again, as for durrant, he is a decent club player but I guarantee this fella will make it onto the championship panel as Cuthbert will be enamoured with the Kerry connection, this is a bog bishopstown failing.
Cant understand trying Jamie o Sullivan at wing back, another typical town footballer, only at 3 and even then don't think he is up to it.
O deasuianigh another political selection, not good enough not even the best forward the town have -sam oakes far better or even big denis Crowley at 14!!!
John hayes who made zero contribution last year as a senior player gets another start at 14.........beggars belief

Thank god there's reasonable shrewd people like you Sean, last year at times I was like one voice singing in the rain

I'm absolutely baffled by this team
If this team plays tipp they will destroy them I'm sorry to say now

thinkstoomuch1 · 31-12-2014 06:35PM

sean mac wrote: »

This is a selection driven by Cuthbert and davis. Firstly putting ohallorhan in goal is a joke, we know what he offers, price deserves a chance.
The full back line is selected poorly, Jennings should have been put 3 with odonoghue at 6 instead of hodnett from carbery who is NOT good enough for this level. Hazel where did he come from? didn't even stand out on an average skibb team for me.
As for midfield.............Christ almighty, 2 big men neither tough enough for this level of football. Poor old kevin o driscoll, brought back and destined nto to make the summer panel again, as for durrant, he is a decent club player but I guarantee this fella will make it onto the championship panel as Cuthbert will be enamoured with the Kerry connection, this is a bog bishopstown failing.
Cant understand trying Jamie o Sullivan at wing back, another typical town footballer, only at 3 and even then don't think he is up to it.
O deasuianigh another political selection, not good enough not even the best forward the town have -sam oakes far better or even big denis Crowley at 14!!!
John hayes who made zero contribution last year as a senior player gets another start at 14.........beggars belief

Are we being too harsh or is it really very worrying signs ahead

How do you feel facing the league now

sean mac · 31-12-2014 06:58PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Are we being too harsh or is it really very worrying signs ahead

How do you feel facing the league now

Not at all TTM, select players who only have a chance of playing championship i.e in Killarney vs Kerry. Who of Jennings, hazel, hodnett, cussen, durrant, hayes etc would last down there? NONE of them, then why select them? there are plenty of players between the panel, u21 panel and junior panels who could make a greater impact. Many of these selections stink of club bias

goalmouth · 31-12-2014 07:01PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Are we being too harsh or is it really very worrying signs ahead

How do you feel facing the league now

Ttm ur not being too harsh with ur opinion I'm not informed on the football side if cork but I would like to see changes made with the selection of players on our hurling teams we seem to give players too many chances for my liking

It makes sense · 31-12-2014 07:50PM

goalmouth wrote: »

10 D lowney (Clonakilty )
11 C Mc Cormac ( Blackrock )
12 S Kingston ( Douglas )
13 M Hallaron (Blackrock )
14 T o Mahoney (Newtown )
15 R Flynn (Erin's Own)
This would be my forward line has it all strength speed aggression and each one well capable of being a match winner

No place for looney who has been in great form last 12 months passed out Billy Dunne for consistence must be a spot for him going forward.

It makes sense · 31-12-2014 07:52PM

Hurleratheart wrote: »

think Gunning will start, going well in challenges even do didnt score from play in schools final. agree with itmakesense too many 17s not a good sign of a team maybe one or two. a year makes a huge difference

Lowney being tried at centre back and o leary moved to midfield last few games but spose they are trying different things. Lowney nice touch, works hard and fast, reminds me a bit of Twomey from Newtown, id prefer a more traditional physical centre back like o leary myself - a good strong centre back can control a game Aussie Gleeson fro Waterford )key position

Game V Limerick 8th April so wont be long coming when new year comes in

Would agree with O'Leary being at centre back do not think he is a midfielder IMO that's where he will play

It makes sense · 31-12-2014 08:03PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

That's exactly it in nutshell

Wit had I was told bout nine or ten fresher's team that pushed all ucc fresher's team to me second best fresher's along ul in country two points Yet cork bear them

Seventh you have good points but ask yourself this after poor rochestown game they didn't improve that much in four days nor did cork minors dropped after December form

Minors be flying in challenge game and whole you're right in you should bring intensity every he challenges this is unlike senior where these are still young young lads

Kilkenney and limerick both lost one if not more challenge match last year
I talker some one close links to them and he's often my scource for information

Now I'm no authority on hurling but this fella is what he doesn't know is not worth know

He's had no worry regards Ag lost cork lads has no interest and word caution to Ag wouldn't want to read too much in to it thinking they turned corner either as that's was not real test

Ag management have proved v Thurles imo
Also Dan gunning got three goal v cork minors limerick imo don't have anyone like him cork has to mark
Gunning simply sensational, not good. Not very good. He's actually better than that
Ronan lynch was just sixteen also he started and starred for limerick minors, list I's endless

Lowney is real work horse and fine strong but imo wouldnt have him considered for starting he's imo certainly started for cork minor football

Chris o leary is centre back if you have doubts you call up shane walsh panel
If they want Tim o mahony can play centre back also has done if want free up forward line

Robbie flynn I said it since October even august saw him Mallow is certain starters has to be is absolutely imperious under high ball is better half forward than Lowney can do all Lowney can and more
Cormack slightly would loose out place simply as from play scoring below other forward I'd have and cork have plenty free takers

Looney has to and is automatic starter mark my words bar injury
Lad just sixteen last year came on sub v limerick got outrageous point I know he's highely rated by cork has big big game expierence outstanding aghada in intermediate championship

Gunning will start also and I know limerick expect him to start and saw him real danger however with Wallis gone I font think they will have a plan to hold him

Goal mouth I'm sorry I don't see point in loosing to Ag big deal I'n if lost two in row yes but they beat wit so just once off and everything must be taken within context

Real litmus test in sense will be hammies and more so rochestown v Ard scoil have they closed gap at harty and I say rochestown more as I think they have better chance of beating them simply as they have excellent spine to team with full back in griffin that hammies don't

I would agree with ttm that roches v ard will give a better impression of where cork and limerick minors are going into the new year. Challenge matches always hard to fathom some lads playing for themselves trying to impress others for the Team managers trying thinks out. Truth comes when championship arrives definetly cork has talent to burn this year.

It makes sense · 31-12-2014 08:24PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

What people views this team

Would people think there's lot club affinity here?????
This reminds me irish rugby team in early nineties picking one cap wonders or just few caps Chris sarjemmouts, niall malone. Etc Kurt mcqulkin cause he was an all black etc

Best of all was Derek mclesse cause he could kick penalties yes got twelve points in par des prince nightmare shame he couldn't run or pass or kick from hand
This cork team brings me back to dark days irish rugby imo lads getting few caps here no chance coming close championship

Now before someone says this won't be championship team then my answer is if so why pick lads in games like this

Cork jersey imo not a free for all must be earned to actually ware it in my opinion

I would be fearing the worst even if Cussan ends up at full forward as he certainly does not have the legs for midfield, as for poor Fintan half forward line would suit better, interesting no Nemo lads on the panel are all their u21 winning team from last year all tied up with colleges?

Hurleratheart · 31-12-2014 08:26PM

It makes sense wrote: »

I would agree with ttm that roches v ard will give a better impression of where cork and limerick minors are going into the new year. Challenge matches always hard to fathom some lads playing for themselves trying to impress others for the Team managers trying thinks out. Truth comes when championship arrives definetly cork has talent to burn this year.

Sorry lads yer loosing the run a bit - Rochestown have to get over nenagh first - one match a at time
Ithink football will seriously affect chances - AG training twice a week no football there you have to have Hurley in your hand all the time

My father used have a saying You can't ride two horses with one arse
IVe feeling football will trip em up
Jack of all trades

goalmouth · 31-12-2014 08:54PM

It makes sense wrote: »

No place for looney who has been in great form last 12 months passed out Billy Dunne for consistence must be a spot for him going forward.

Only giving an opinion the two u mentioned might get a start but I think the six I picked would give any team trouble

goalmouth · 31-12-2014 09:00PM

Well lads I'm off out for the night to bring in the new year so Happy New Year and best of luck to all in sport and in life
Goalmouth

CORKDOUBLE · 31-12-2014 11:06PM

With respects to them 11 of those players playing on sunday have as much chance of making a top intercounty player as i have ....i know lots of players are playing for the colleges in the McGrath Cup ....but if this management think that some of these players will it make then we are more up **** creek more than we think we are already under this bluffer ....this man is destroying the careers of our talented players .... Happy new year to all...

zetecescort · 01-01-2015 10:55AM

Shhh, lads, keep quiet, Cuthbert is setting Kerry up for the biggest ambush seen since the Civil war.

(Yes, I have been drinking all night)

thinkstoomuch1 · 01-01-2015 02:21PM

Happy new year folks have good one

Orizio · 01-01-2015 03:01PM

Time/venue of the Limerick game on Saturday? Anyone heading up?

The White Feather · 01-01-2015 11:36PM

Lads and Lassies,

Have a read of this great article about a true Cork Hero managng Cork Heroes!

This is what Cork is all about

CORKDOUBLE · 01-01-2015 11:45PM

Interesting to read Kieran Shannon say in todays Examiner ...kinda saying that Kerry could meet a "heavyweight" and a "possibly revamped " Cork in croker next August ..i rate Shannon as top class ...but hes living out of Cork too long would not make a statement like that otherwise

thinkstoomuch1 · 02-01-2015 12:19AM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Interesting to read Kieran Shannon say in todays Examiner ...kinda saying that Kerry could meet a "heavyweight" and a "possibly revamped " Cork in croker next August ..i rate Shannon as top class ...but hes living out of Cork too long would not make a statement like that otherwise

Do have that link please cd

CORKDOUBLE · 02-01-2015 10:44AM

TTM it was in yesterdays supplement section where various reporters were looking back and looking ahead to the new season ....Shannon was making his big wish and that was it ...so he must think Cork can reach that level...but as hes been living in Clare and working with Mayo i wonder maybe he does not know the Cork scene now ...i did know one Cork player who had his mobile ..Shannon used to get quotes etc. off him.

sean mac · 02-01-2015 02:22PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

TTM it was in yesterdays supplement section where various reporters were looking back and looking ahead to the new season ....Shannon was making his big wish and that was it ...so he must think Cork can reach that level...but as hes been living in Clare and working with Mayo i wonder maybe he does not know the Cork scene now ...i did know one Cork player who had his mobile ..Shannon used to get quotes etc. off him.

I have great time for Kieran Shannon, think he is a superb sports writer and would classify himself along with Christy o connor and Michael foley as being the best especially covering galeic games. But he is way off the mark here,ot sure if its the isolation from cork or if he has watched Cuthbert talk on youtube at a development conference a few years ago allied to his youth etc that makes some of these fellas think Cuthbert is the business........either way I think those of us on the ground in cork no the real story and what we essentially have is a fella out of his depth totally under utilising what is by any measure a very talented squad of players, who are also imo much too acquiescent in this set up.

thinkstoomuch1 · 02-01-2015 05:37PM

Orizio wrote: »

Time/venue of the Limerick game on Saturday? Anyone heading up?

Two thirty martsinetown jp place

homeofhurling · 02-01-2015 07:24PM

Cussen back on the cork panel picked for midfield in sundays McGrath cup game are cork going backwards since 2010 all ireland win .

sean mac · 02-01-2015 07:43PM

homeofhurling wrote: »

Cussen back on the cork panel picked for midfield in sundays McGrath cup game are cork going backwards since 2010 all ireland win .

Are they? Ffs they have gone back to 2002 form under thos management terrible decision

thinkstoomuch1 · 02-01-2015 10:48PM

Cork hurling season starts tomorrow, good game to start in terms limerick will bring physically good challenge and test some younger lads and give them nice introduction To hurling, ist tactical test probably won't come here or unlikely with Ul either, or ucc but tippeeary in the waterford crystal cup If they meet or WExford in end January imo be real tactical challenge in cork

But ucc and Ul games give nice games for minors get momentum

I'd say limerick probably win tommorrow in played ul and WExford already challenges, cork ist game

thinkstoomuch1 · 02-01-2015 11:23PM

sean mac wrote: »

I have great time for Kieran Shannon, think he is a superb sports writer and would classify himself along with Christy o connor and Michael foley as being the best especially covering galeic games. But he is way off the mark here,ot sure if its the isolation from cork or if he has watched Cuthbert talk on youtube at a development conference a few years ago allied to his youth etc that makes some of these fellas think Cuthbert is the business........either way I think those of us on the ground in cork no the real story and what we essentially have is a fella out of his depth totally under utilising what is by any measure a very talented squad of players, who are also imo much too acquiescent in this set up.

I'd rate Christy as top top writer
He got it wrong with cuthbhert but normally right still read him
Foley cork man terrific writer
Mary White ladies football Sean truly inspirational in work does promotion game media
Sarah Donovan like her ability call spade a spade
Barry Donovan really came imo limelight terrific tactical insight top writer
Lisa lwwlor red fm good also
Derek daly writes good pieces also in fairness spot on after cork v tipp what he said
I rate kieran Shannon and huge time for him also he write blood brothers?? Or book like that regard cork hurling

Orizio · 03-01-2015 06:14PM

From a Limerick GAA thread:

Cork 6-13 Limerick 2-18 in the challenge match played earlier today.

Luke O'Farrell was very impressive for Cork at full-forward although both sides largely fielded fringe panelists and trialliists. The Limerick full-back line was cleaned and Cork could have had another couple of goals. Tight enough in the first half. Willie Griffin got a goal after a minute and Pa Begley added a second later in the half. Cork led 2-7 to 2-5 at the break but scored three goals in about 5 minutes early in the second period to kill it as a contest. Good to see young Cian Lynch introduced as a sub. Did well too.

Limerick: Aaron Murphy, Conor McEniry, Tony McMahon, Alan Dempsey, Mark Carmody, Conor Allis, Barry O'Connell, David Reidy, Seanie O'Brien, John Fitzgibbon, William Hickey, Tommy Quaid, Willie Griffin, Pa Begley, Kevin O'Brien. Sub: Cian Lynch for Reidy.

Orizio · 03-01-2015 06:44PM

From PROC:

Cork 6-13
Limerick 2-18

Couldn't make today but the team was

Pa Collins (Ballinhassig)

William Kearney(Sarsfields)
Damien Cahalane (St. Finbarrs)
Killian Burke (Midleton)

Sean O Donoghue (Inniscarra)
Cormac Murphy (Mallow)
Brian O Sullivan (Fermoy)

Brian Murray (Bishopstown)
Rob O Shea (Rob O Shea)

Alan frahill- o'connor (Youghal)
Peter Kelleher(Kilmichael)
Andy Walsh(Killeagh)

Anthony Spillane(Castlelyons )
Luke O Farrell(Midleton)
Luke Meade(Newcestown)

pluszap · 03-01-2015 06:52PM

Cork 6-13Limerick 2-18
the team was
Pa Collins (Ballinhassig)William Kearney(Sarsfields)Damien Cahalane (St. Finbarrs)Killian Burke (Midleton)
Sean O Donoghue (Inniscarra)Cormac Murphy (Mallow)Brian O Sullivan (Fermoy
)Brian Murray (Bishopstown)Rob O Shea (carraigaline)
Alan frahill- o'connor (Youghal)Peter Kelleher(Kilmichael)Andy Walsh(Killeagh
)Anthony Spillane(Castlelyons )Luke O Farrell(Midleton)Luke Meade(Newcestown)

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