Local store selling alcohol to minors tonight

One eyed Jack · 31-12-2014 08:15PM

Good to see these kids taking responsibility for buying their own alcohol rather than asking passing adults to buy it for them!

I'm too drunk right now to muster any faux outrage for this shìte.

Buona Fortuna · 31-12-2014 08:20PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

No I don't think so. We have a serious problem with under age drinking in this country and your attitude is partly to blame for that because you think it is ok for an Off License to be feckless with the laws.

I always thought the fun part of underage drinking was actually trying to obtain the booze myself.

I drank as a teenager - there was no ID then and providing you could dodge the doodlebugs nobody got hurt.

Tail Docker · 31-12-2014 08:25PM

I'm not a spoil-sport..but......lol.... I'd be more annoyed if they were outside hassling me to go in for them. "Mister..Mister...will ya..."

harrymagina · 31-12-2014 08:25PM

More than likely are over 18, some of the young ones in night clubs look like there 12 or just starting first year in school. Maybe they were in the shop a week before and showed them there ID then. I have to ask for ID sometimes before I shift a young wan or flick the bean. Even some 23 year olds look 16.

Kermit.de.frog · 31-12-2014 08:27PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I'm too drunk right now to muster any faux outrage for this shìte.

So you are...

Drunk? Check.
On PC? Check.
On your own? I guess check.

Ah no.

Not prefer to be around people on NYE?

I'm not going to muster any faux outrage though. Maybe faux sympathy.

harrymagina · 31-12-2014 08:31PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

So you are...

Drunk? Check.
On PC? Check.
On your own? I guess check.

Ah no.

Not prefer to be around people on NYE?

I'm not going to muster any faux outrage though. Maybe faux sympathy.

What are you doing on boards on NYE? I bet up on a high horse looking down or people or spreading gossip or going to guards to look for something to do?

Go get some friends

ebbsy · 31-12-2014 08:32PM

Start 'em early, so by the time they are 18 they will know the ropes.

Kermit.de.frog · 31-12-2014 08:33PM

harrymagina wrote: »

What are you doing on boards on NYE? I bet up on a high horse looking down or people or spreading gossip or going to guards to look for something to do?

I have bigger plans than most this evening.:cool:

Sala · 31-12-2014 08:33PM

I had an argument a while ago with the girl in lidl when I was trying to buy a bottle of wine. I'm 29. They could have been over 18 and the shop could know who they are (locals)

SEPT 23 1989 · 31-12-2014 08:34PM

ebbsy wrote: »

Start 'em early, so by the time they are 18 they will know the ropes.

you need to put in the hours alright

mad m · 31-12-2014 08:35PM

Super cans of coke were great in my day, drink half of it and then pour in the naggin of vodka, I was like the invincible man!

B.A._Baracus · 31-12-2014 08:40PM

Am I the only one who doesnt care if some teenagers got sold alcohol?
The world will still be spinning tomorrow :pac:

SEPT 23 1989 · 31-12-2014 08:42PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Am I the only one who doesnt care if some teenagers got sold alcohol?
The world will still be spinning tomorrow :pac:

just like their little hungover heads

hfallada · 31-12-2014 08:45PM

I find it very hard to believe an off license is selling to minors(well not in Dublin). They arent going to risk their license to sell a €5 naggin.

buried · 31-12-2014 08:49PM

Makes me long for the days I was underage drinking myself on NYE, drinking down the dark field's under the stars with my mates and all those beautiful young ladies who did the same, having the craic, getting the shift...Nowadays I have to que up like a slave to get into some concentration-camp niteclub, pay 20 quid for the privilege and then have to go through a f**king job interview with some uppity broad just to find out her name.

MarkR · 31-12-2014 08:51PM

beertons wrote: »

Cash is king. Leave em off.

Yep. And the owner is going to be down up to 4 grand for a first offence if caught selling alcohol to a minor.

They make more money on penny sweets. Booze, cigarettes and lotto are only there to get the customers in the door. Store loses 4 grand for some numpty behind the till not having the stones to ask for I.D., I can guess who will be first in line for the chop!

AboutaWeekAgo · 31-12-2014 08:51PM

You sound like barrels of fun OP, god forbid a few younglads have a session to end the year. How else are they going to get smelly fingers without the help of booze?

kneemos · 31-12-2014 09:01PM

At least they're not doing drugs.

Gandalph · 01-01-2015 04:30PM

hfallada wrote: »

€5 naggin.

Where? My friend is curious...

my friend being my wallet

darkpagandeath · 01-01-2015 04:32PM

Yes because no one ever anywhere before drank underage, let alone anyone in our generation....

end of the road · 01-01-2015 05:48PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

My local busy and popular convenience store is selling alcohol to minors. In the queue a kid (the only way he could be described) bought two 8 packs of Bavaria no questions asked and straight after him, this time a girl, bought a naggin of Vodka. No ID, no nuthin. I reckon she was no more than 16 and the other kid looked about 14.

This is just across the road from a garda station too.

I said to one of the two behind the till that they were minors and they shrugged it off.

This was so blatant it's obvious policy for the night.

I will be reporting it to the garda station tomorrow morning and I think others should do the same when they see this. Don't get me wrong i'm not a spoil sport and if it was one off I wouldn't but this was ridiculous. Allowing it in front of a queue of adults too probably shows they think most would not complain.

Would you say anything, do anything or just leave it be?

i'd leave it be. you reporting it is a waste of the gards time. more important things for such a small force with not enough resources to be doing then sorting someone selling some drink to a kid

foggy_lad · 01-01-2015 06:01PM

bluewolf wrote: »

you can drink underage in a private premises with parental consent

No you can't. It is an offence to provide alcoholic beverages for consumption by any minor whether in public or private and it is also an offence to allow the consumption of alcoholic beverages by minors in any premises owned by you.

end of the road · 01-01-2015 06:04PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

No I don't think so. We have a serious problem with under age drinking in this country and your attitude is partly to blame for that because you think it is ok for an Off License to be feckless with the laws.

well, that is debatible. any problems with drink are over hyped, or way way over hyped, so we don't know what the true situation is . his attitude is not in any way shape or form to blame for it. he just realises this will happen no matter what. if he thinks it is ok for an Off License to be feckless with the laws so what? these laws don't and never will work. no need to abolish them, but a small, barely resourced police force have better things to do.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

But then by and large the people who say "let them be" won't have to deal the consequences. That will be the emergency services and the gardaí.

how do you know some of those who say "let them be" don't infact work for the emergency services? and have based their opinion on the realities of what they see? that this will happen no matter what.

end of the road · 01-01-2015 06:10PM

kneemos wrote: »

At least they're not doing drugs.

you mean illegal drugs. alcohol is a drug

PizzamanIRL · 01-01-2015 06:20PM

OP: Garda, I'd like to report that shopkeeper for selling alcohol to minors last night.

Garda: How do you know they were minors?

OP: Eh they looked young.

Garda: Ok thank you I'll just type that up on my invisible typewriter. *tap tap tap tap tap*

01-01-2015 06:26PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

No you can't. It is an offence to provide alcoholic beverages for consumption by any minor whether in public or private and it is also an offence to allow the consumption of alcoholic beverages by minors in any premises owned by you .

newp
can drink in a house/private residence with permission

It is an offence to buy alcohol for people under the age of 18. It is also an offence to give alcohol to anyone under the age of 18 unless in a domestic home and they have parental consent. If found guilty of any of these offences, you could be liable on summary conviction in a District Court to a class B fine for a first offence and a class A fine for a second or any subsequent offence.

Young people under the age of 18 are not allowed in licensed premises during extended hours (except in certain circumstances). It is the responsibility of the licence holder to make sure this does not happen.

If you are under 18, you cannot legally buy alcohol. Also you cannot drink it unless you are in a private residence and have permission from your parents. It is also an offence to pretend that you are over 18 in order to buy or drink alcohol. If you are found guilty of these offences, you are liable to a class E fine on summary conviction in a District Court.
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/justice/criminal_law/criminal_offences/alcohol_and_the_law.html

Course that still doesn't mean they were legally allowed buy it or be sold to, I just thought I'd throw that in there before we get all the OMG UNDERAGE DRINKING

PizzamanIRL · 01-01-2015 06:28PM

Teenagers will get it either way from someone. The fact that the shopkeeper is selling it directly to them means the kids aren't disturbing an adult who could possibly be having sex with his woman which could eventually lead to some man/woman being born and possibly going on to become a scientist and find cures to deadly diseases.

So the shopkeeper could be saving the world by selling beer to the teens.

ireland.man · 01-01-2015 06:28PM

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

OP: Garda, I'd like to report that shopkeeper for selling alcohol to minors last night.

Garda: How do you know they were minors?

OP: Eh they looked young.

Garda: Ok thank you I'll just type that up on my invisible typewriter. *tap tap tap tap tap*

"We can't be like "policing" the whole neighbourhood." Chief Wiggum

So what's the punishment for shops which are caught doing this? What would happen to the workers?

Seeing the grief shopkeepers suffer even on good days, I'd probably avoid the aggro and not ask rough looking teens for their proof of age as well.

Local store selling alcohol to minors tonight

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