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Polka_Dot · 24-12-2014 12:43AM

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

Just discovered honey is not vegan friendly!!! Luckily I bought a bottle of fructose a few months ago.
I will not be defeated by this vegan curse but I now understand why chefs hate them. :rolleyes:

Is the vegan you're cooking for definitely anti-honey? Not all vegans are against it!

Mrs Fox · 24-12-2014 12:46AM

Faith wrote: »

I think the objection is to taking the honey from the bees. For one, because it belongs to the bees, and for two, because bees occasionally get squished during the collection process.

I can't say it moves me, personally, but apparently vegans feel strongly about it!

Thanks DB

Wonder how the kids will react when I break it to them that they've been having squished bees in their porridge every morning?

Faith · 24-12-2014 12:57AM

I once met a vegan who refused to use honey and oatmeal shampoo.

Lingua Franca · 24-12-2014 01:03AM

Faith wrote: »

I think the objection is to taking the honey from the bees. For one, because it belongs to the bees, and for two, because bees occasionally get squished during the collection process.

I've also heard the word "enslavement" used. Many vegans don't wear silk for similar reasons.

Faith · 24-12-2014 01:27AM

Lingua Franca wrote: »

I've also heard the word "enslavement" used. Many vegans don't wear silk for similar reasons.

:eek:

But bees will make honey and the relevant insects will still make silk, even if humans never touched it. They're not being forced to make it for our benefit.

I'll honestly never understand veganism

Kovu · 24-12-2014 01:41AM

There are different types of silk. The most common harvest method kills the larvae in the silk cocoon so I can understand a vegans dislike of the product. It's either dried in the sun or boiled to kill the worm. 'Non violent silk' allows the worm to leave before harvesting takes place. Ahimsa silk perhaps?

kylith · 24-12-2014 12:08PM

Lingua Franca wrote: »

I've also heard the word "enslavement" used. Many vegans don't wear silk for similar reasons.

Or eat figs, because fig pollination requires the death of a wasp.

I have been made promise not to tell the vegan of my acquaintance that. Apparently she loves figs and the guilt would be crushing.

Tilly · 24-12-2014 12:28PM

Bee wee

hahahahahahaha love it

BaZmO* · 24-12-2014 01:29PM

Tilly wrote: »

Bee wee

hahahahahahaha love it

It's actual bee vomit. Doesn't sound as cute though.

24-12-2014 05:03PM

My first ever Christmas cake.

Rough and ready but hopefully delicious! :pac:

B0jangles · 24-12-2014 05:44PM

Kat1170 wrote: »

Translation anyone ????

Got these chillies today but cant figure out if they are OMG hot or quite mild.
Any ideas people ???

The text looks like thai, so they are probably dried bird's eye chilis which are pretty danged hot.

Faith · 24-12-2014 05:48PM

B0jangles wrote: »

The text looks like thai, so they are probably dried bird's eye chilis which are pretty danged hot.

That was my best guess too.

The Hill Billy · 24-12-2014 07:18PM

Mystery Egg wrote: »

My first ever Christmas cake.

Rough and ready but hopefully delicious! :pac:

Rough & ready my ass. Well-executed minimalist style in my book. It looks great!

Kat1170 · 24-12-2014 10:00PM

B0jangles wrote: »

The text looks like thai, so they are probably dried bird's eye chilis which are pretty danged hot.

Faith wrote: »

That was my best guess too.

Yeah, looked Thai, Vietnamese that area of the world. Making a big curry for family get together St S. Day so might lean towards caution and use them for a more dedicated small group in the New year

:)

SarahBeep! · 24-12-2014 10:30PM

kylith wrote: »

Or eat figs, because fig pollination requires the death of a wasp.

I have been made promise not to tell the vegan of my acquaintance that. Apparently she loves figs and the guilt would be crushing.

Anything ending with the death of wasps is good in my book!

How does this happen? Sounds really interesting!

Bored_lad · 24-12-2014 10:36PM

SarahBeep! wrote: »

Anything ending with the death of wasps is good in my book!

How does this happen? Sounds really interesting!

I looked it up and it seems like the wasps lay eggs in the figs and then the wasps pollinate the fig trees. However, sometimes it seems the wasps don't pollinate the fig trees but lay the eggs so the fig tree aborts their fruit thus killing all the wasps.

BaZmO* · 24-12-2014 10:55PM

Bored_lad wrote: »

I looked it up and it seems like the wasps lay eggs in the figs and then the wasps pollinate the fig trees. However, sometimes it seems the wasps don't pollinate the fig trees but lay the eggs so the fig tree aborts their fruit thus killing all the wasps.

Well if that's the reason why some vegans don't eat figs well they are idiots.

26-12-2014 03:07PM

The Hill Billy wrote: »

Rough & ready my ass. Well-executed minimalist style in my book. It looks great!

Thanks tHB.

It was delicious...I am amazed. I was worried about it as I've never made one before and it's been maturing for 6 weeks. We're not big fruitcake fans, used to our mothers' dried up offerings. This was very moist, and rich with whiskey and amaretto, with just a thin layer of soft marzipan and royal icing. Half of the cake got scoffed yesterday with a cuppa at tea-time so I was completely chuffed!

StripedBoxers · 26-12-2014 03:13PM

StripedBoxers wrote: »

surprisingly, the bolognese isn't even remotely spicy, not a kick from it at all! :mad:

Quick update: I reheated some of the bolognese from this batch on Xmas eve and the heat was unreal. I ended up having two spoon fulls and binning the rest cos I wasn't taking a chance on heartburn, not after the previous few days.

Any ideas/tips on how I could cool it down so its not as hot when I reheat some next?

the beer revolu · 26-12-2014 03:22PM

StripedBoxers wrote: »

Any ideas/tips on how I could cool it down so its not as hot when I reheat some next?

Make another batch (without chillies) and mix them.

MissFlitworth · 27-12-2014 12:19PM

God the Hairy Bikers irritate me. I could happily run up to the dark haired one and pull his pony tail. Cringing along to them in China.

Tarzana2 · 27-12-2014 02:55PM

MissFlitworth wrote: »

God the Hairy Bikers irritate me. I could happily run up to the dark haired one and pull his pony tail. Cringing along to them in China.

A lot of their recipes look so nyommy but gawd does their patter ever get on my nerves.

It's especially bad because they clearly think they're hilarious! :mad:

Baggy Trousers · 27-12-2014 03:19PM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

A lot of their recipes look so nyommy but gawd does their patter ever get on my nerves.

It's especially bad because they clearly think they're hilarious! :mad:

Yeah I never really got that programme. Small doses only.

Tarzana2 · 27-12-2014 03:58PM

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

Yeah I never really got that programme. Small doses only.

Seems to be based around "We're from the general Tyne and Wear area, aren't our accents funny?" Same kind of shíte that Richard Curtis pedals in his awful films; "Ooh look, aren't we British eccentric?"

Actually, what really gets on my nerves about the Hairy Bikers is their insistence that all British produce is superior to every where in the world. Some British produce is indeed fab. But having lived in the UK and Ireland, I missed Irish good quality sausages (even the good sausages from butchers in the UK don't measure up), Irish bread (UK bread is strangely tasteless, again even the supposed good stuff) and Irish lamb and beef.

But I do like a lot of the recipes they execute, and they aren't too cheffy (because, well, they're not chefs), but I'd just like more cooking and less "banter".

The Hill Billy · 27-12-2014 05:36PM

I like them. I find their style refreshing compared to some of the more 'precious' chefs.

Tarzana2 · 27-12-2014 06:28PM

The Hill Billy wrote: »

I like them. I find their style refreshing compared to some of the more 'precious' chefs.

They are definitely more earthy and unpretentious, which is a big plus.

Dizzyblonde · 27-12-2014 08:23PM

The Hill Billy wrote: »

I like them. I find their style refreshing compared to some of the more 'precious' chefs.

Me too - maybe it's an age thing..... :rolleyes:

BaZmO* · 27-12-2014 08:29PM

I don't mind them that much but I can certainly see why people would dislike them. That said, I hate when the guy with the full head of hair tries to be funny, it's just so forced and, well, unfunny. At find the guy to be at least a bit funny when he's messing about.

All that aside, I do like their recipes.

beertons · 27-12-2014 09:00PM

I like them too. They make tasty stuff. They might go on a bit about British stuff is the best, but Nevin harps on about this and that too. Jamie talks alot of crap too. The sponsors made them do it!

The Black Oil · 28-12-2014 11:33AM

I like them, too. They seem genuinely interested in what they're doing. Agree on small doses, though.

Still have a cheeseboard from SuperValu to get through.

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