Ireland's biggest sporting embarrassment?

Borders no.2 · 22-12-2014 3:43am

Ireland v Georgia Rugby World Cup 2007
Ireland v Liechenstein 1995 Euro qualifer
Most of Steve Staunton's tenure as Ireland manager
John Delaney and dozens of FAI cock ups
FAI buying thousands of pounds of false tickets from unnamed touts pre WC 1994
Drugs controversies
New Contract given to Eddie O'Sullivan pre WC2007
I think we made a joint bid with Scotland for Euro 2008 that was to put in mildly ill advised. The bid was laughed out of contention and it left the Scots not too pleased with us.
Marty Morrissey
Tug of war over various soccer players, Rory McIllroy for Olympics etc.

dmc17 · 22-12-2014 3:50am

DeanAustin wrote: »

Stan's interview afterwards was comical too. Didn't he say they'd cause other teams problems in the group (and didnt Germany slaughter them 13-0) as well as some bizarre claim about us traditionally not being great in February or some such nonsense.

Felt sorry for Stan but his appointment was one of the few I've ever seen that was completely bereft of common sense and logic. Another bit of Delaney genius.

Well, in fairness, I think they could prove to be a massive banana skin. You can't legislate for that, so you can't........

rossie1977 · 22-12-2014 4:17am

probably this

diomed · 22-12-2014 4:29am

Ok, I''ll say it.
Roy Keane losing his soother in Saipan.

markfla · 22-12-2014 4:42am

Ireland v Argentina in 1999 rwc in lens
http://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/shame-of-lens-the-spark-for-irelands-new-focus-26028347.html

ButtersSuki · 22-12-2014 4:44am

Marty Morrisey asking Francie Barrett's mother "did he ever hit you an auld box?" Live on TV after Francie was the flagbearer for the irish Olympic Team in the '96 Olympics. That he asked this question at about 3 in the morning on a halting site in Galway as he interviewed Francie's parents, friends and family with a burning barrel serving as the centrepiece/interview desk was depending on your viewpoint hilarious or mortifying. This was rapidly followed by a return to the studio where Bill O'Herlihy apologises profusely and the RTE went to an unscheduled break. Ah, the memories...

Aphex · 22-12-2014 4:50am

Nib wrote: »

A former World Champion missing one ball having previously potted thirty five without missing. Yeah, a really embarrassment that was. :rolleyes:

World champion only because Hendry missed an easy pink. But yes, pretty embarrassing not to pot the black after all the effort. I was gutted for him btw.
Ronnie pots the black just for fun ffs :pac:

ButtersSuki · 22-12-2014 4:56am

Aphex wrote: »

World champion only because Hendry missed an easy pink. But yes, pretty embarrassing not to pot the black after all the effort. I was gutted for him btw.
Ronnie pots the black just for fun ffs :pac:

I was on a flight back from London the next morning after that shot. Ken was last onto the plane and hadn't been in the Lounge/departure area prior to take off. He was as white as a ghost. He got into his seat and put on headphones and basically kept staring at the floor.

What a lot of people forget is that he also "lost" an £80,000STG (a LOT of money then!) Honda Sports Car for missing that black as it was a bonus prize for a 147 in the tournament.

But by no means is that up there amongst our greatest embarrasments.

ROAAAR · 22-12-2014 5:00am

Losing to England in croke Park when they made our president walk on the grass. They complicated humiliated the irish that day. The irish authorities should have not started that game until Johnson backed down and I'd almost guarantee an Irish victory instead.

ROAAAR · 22-12-2014 5:04am

It was a ****ing disgrace to have happened and I'm embarrassed for Irish Rugby because of it. Small little island mentality really gets to me about the irish at times. A lot of people in Ireland are not driven natural born winners. "sure we played grand" attitude really bugs me. I would been ashamed of myself to let them away with that after everything they've done to us over the years and we just roll over and die. Now that's what I'd call puke rugby.

Aphex · 22-12-2014 5:07am

ButtersSuki wrote: »

I was on a flight back from London the next morning after that shot. Ken was last onto the plane and hadn't been in the Lounge/departure area prior to take off. He was as white as a ghost. He got into his seat and put on headphones and basically kept staring at the floor.

What a lot of people forget is that he also "lost" an £80,000STG (a LOT of money then!) Honda Sports Car for missing that black as it was a bonus prize for a 147 in the tournament.

But by no means is that up there amongst our greatest embarrasments.

Sheesh OO didn't know that! Nah it's not the greatest, but it must be for him. I was rooting for him all the way. Think Stevens even took it worse on the night!

errlloyd · 22-12-2014 5:11am

ROAAAR wrote: »

Losing to England in croke Park when they made our president walk on the grass. They complicated humiliated the irish that day. The irish authorities should have not started that game until Johnson backed down and I'd almost guarantee an Irish victory instead.

We never lost to England in Croke Park. That match was in the old landsdowne.

ROAAAR · 22-12-2014 5:13am

errlloyd wrote: »

We never lost to England in Croke Park. That match was in the old landsdowne.

Actually you're wrong it was in the aviva before being done up. You're right about it not being in croker though good man, I just slipped out the wrong name there I was aware of that. I'd be a bit of a sporting expert in the area if you know what I mean

chrysagon · 22-12-2014 5:46am

ROAAAR wrote: »

Losing to England in croke Park when they made our president walk on the grass. They complicated humiliated the irish that day. The irish authorities should have not started that game until Johnson backed down and I'd almost guarantee an Irish victory instead.

That was Lansdowne... Ireland beat the English out the gate on Croker..one of our proudest moments!

Losing to Cyprus.. getting thrashed at home to Germany, and the way DeBruin lost her medals after Atlanta 1996..producing poitin pee:D

Muahahaha · 22-12-2014 5:52am

Big Ears wrote: »

Yes he is, and he is largely responsible for what is Ireland's biggest sporting embarrassment.
Ireland's 2 most successful sports are amateur boxing and professional boxing and RTE refuse to show either.

Infact there hasn't be a professional Irish boxing show on tv since 2011, and in the mean time we've had 3 fighters Irish fighters win World titles.
The small amount of coverage they gave amateur boxing since the Olympics was pathetic, and thankfully TG4 have taken up the role of showing amateur boxing in Ireland and are doing a much better job.

I couldn't believe it last week when the Limerick boxer Andy Lee won the World Middleweight belt. I'd literally never heard of him and the first time I'd ever seen him was on the RTE News AFTER he had won the belt. Really poor from our national broadcaster that this chap is a world champion in his sport but most people had never even heard from him as media coverage on boxing seems to be rare when it does occur.

Muahahaha · 22-12-2014 6:03am

I'm not one bit a fan of John Delaney but I don't know why he is getting rubbished on this thread for the 33rd team thing. He said it in private to FIFA and it was never intended for broadcast except Sepp Blatter opened his big trap and broadcast it to make Irish people look like idiots.

Now if Delaney's lobbying behind the scenes had of actually resulted in FIFA somehow allowing a 33rd team play due to the extraordinary nature of the Henry handball then Ireland would have been going to the World Cup after all and everyone would be saying fair play to John Delaney for coming up with the idea.

As to how you would slot a 33rd team into a 32 team tournament I haven't the foggiest but had FIFA said fairs fair and Ireland should be there and they somehow made it happen then Delaney would have been doing his job, the FAI probably lost out on huge revenues by not going to the World Cup so he was only ever acting in the best interests of Irish football. The fact Sepp Blatter came out and broadcast a private solution wasn't Delaneys fault in fairness.

He's still a twat though, no doubt about that.

foxy farmer · 22-12-2014 6:06am

Muahahaha wrote: »

I couldn't believe it last week when the Limerick boxer Andy Lee won the World Middleweight belt. I'd literally never heard of him and the first time I'd ever seen him was on the RTE News AFTER he had won the belt. Really poor from our national broadcaster that this chap is a world champion in his sport but most people had never even heard from him as media coverage on boxing seems to be rare when it does occur.

I'd say the last time a boxing match was televised in this country was the night that Bernard Dunne was hammered by the Thai boxer in the O2. Another sad day.

the whole year inn · 22-12-2014 6:19am

chrysagon wrote: »

That was Lansdowne... Ireland beat the English out the gate on Croker..one of our proudest moments!

Losing to Cyprus.. getting thrashed at home to Germany, and the way DeBruin lost her medals after Atlanta 1996..producing poitin pee:D

I dont think she lost her medals tho

http://m.independent.ie/lifestyle/is-michelle-really-our-greatest-ever-olympian-26865802.html

Unlike waterford Crystal which did fail the drug test ...the shame.

osarusan · 22-12-2014 6:23am

Saipan.
FAI blocking Barcelona friendly.
Various horrible GAA fights.
Argentina rugby match at world cup (less so as they've come on a lot)
Liechtenstein draw.
Six nations loss to Italy a few years ago.
2-5 versus Cyprus
33rd team at world cup farce.
FAI in general.
Delaney in particular.

kippy · 22-12-2014 6:39am

Muahahaha wrote: »

I'm not one bit a fan of John Delaney but I don't know why he is getting rubbished on this thread for the 33rd team thing. He said it in private to FIFA and it was never intended for broadcast except Sepp Blatter opened his big trap and broadcast it to make Irish people look like idiots.

Now if Delaney's lobbying behind the scenes had of actually resulted in FIFA somehow allowing a 33rd team play due to the extraordinary nature of the Henry handball then Ireland would have been going to the World Cup after all and everyone would be saying fair play to John Delaney for coming up with the idea.

As to how you would slot a 33rd team into a 32 team tournament I haven't the foggiest but had FIFA said fairs fair and Ireland should be there and they somehow made it happen then Delaney would have been doing his job, the FAI probably lost out on huge revenues by not going to the World Cup so he was only ever acting in the best interests of Irish football. The fact Sepp Blatter came out and broadcast a private solution wasn't Delaneys fault in fairness.

He's still a twat though, no doubt about that.

Look, there are travestys in football all the time. Key games getting decided on a poor decision, missed foul, mistake etc. Even within the WC itself in far higher profile games some of the most historic moments in sport are around handballs. What exactly made Delaney think they'd overturn our result? What kind of a precident would that set?
JD is am embarrassment. Probably the highest paid sports administrator presiding over a sport that relies on the English system to train and develop our top players, has a sham of a national league structure and in my opinion is a failure to those many volunteers that work within it. Worse still, despite all JD's fcuk ups noone within the organisation is speaking up about him.

Big Ears · 22-12-2014 7:10am

Muahahaha wrote: »

I couldn't believe it last week when the Limerick boxer Andy Lee won the World Middleweight belt. I'd literally never heard of him and the first time I'd ever seen him was on the RTE News AFTER he had won the belt. Really poor from our national broadcaster that this chap is a world champion in his sport but most people had never even heard from him as media coverage on boxing seems to be rare when it does occur.

Well actually Andy used to be pretty well known in Ireland and spent some time in the nation's sporting limelight. He was our only boxing representative at the 2004 Olympics, and during the Bernard Dunne years (and for a while after), he was the main fighter other than Bernard to headline shows on RTE.
He headlined 5 RTE shows, aswell as being on 2 (televised fights) Dunne undercards. He frequently mixed up spells of fighting in Europe with spells of fighting in the US, but once RTE gave up on boxing he pretty much exclusively focused on fighting in the US, where he also had a failed World title attempt vs Julio Cesar Chavez jnr. That fight was massive in the US, but of course got little attention here.

foxy farmer wrote: »

I'd say the last time a boxing match was televised in this country was the night that Bernard Dunne was hammered by the Thai boxer in the O2. Another sad day.

The last time RTE showed a boxing fight was Willie Casey losing in a round to Guillermo Rigondeaux for the interim WBA Super-Bantamweight World title, back in March 2011. RTE had refused to show the fight, citing cost as a reason, so the promoter paid for all of RTE's production costs and they showed it at the last minute with virtually no advertisement.
This is the only boxing card RTE gained the rights for since Ryle Nugent's tenure as RTE head of sport began.

There was actually 4 other pro boxing cards since he took over, between September 2010 and November 2010, but these were all under a previous arrangement RTE had with Brian Peters (before Nugent took over). So 4 pro shows on RTE in 10 weeks in 2010.......0 shows on RTE in the last 3 years, 9 months.

DeanAustin · 22-12-2014 8:13am

Muahahaha wrote: »

I'm not one bit a fan of John Delaney but I don't know why he is getting rubbished on this thread for the 33rd team thing. He said it in private to FIFA and it was never intended for broadcast except Sepp Blatter opened his big trap and broadcast it to make Irish people look like idiots.

Now if Delaney's lobbying behind the scenes had of actually resulted in FIFA somehow allowing a 33rd team play due to the extraordinary nature of the Henry handball then Ireland would have been going to the World Cup after all and everyone would be saying fair play to John Delaney for coming up with the idea.

As to how you would slot a 33rd team into a 32 team tournament I haven't the foggiest but had FIFA said fairs fair and Ireland should be there and they somehow made it happen then Delaney would have been doing his job, the FAI probably lost out on huge revenues by not going to the World Cup so he was only ever acting in the best interests of Irish football. The fact Sepp Blatter came out and broadcast a private solution wasn't Delaneys fault in fairness.

He's still a twat though, no doubt about that.

Ah come on...it was never in a million years going to happen.

Logistically, it was never going to work.

But more importantly than that, it should never have been considered. Bad calls happen in sport, you just have to deal with them. There have been awful calls throughout history. Think Maradona against England, think Brazil in 78, think Schumacher in 82 as just three off the top of my head. At no point did any of the countries on the wrong end of a decision look for a solution as daft as what Delaney and the FAI proposed. We looked like a naive, idiotic bunch of sore losers.

People are also forgetting that the handball didn't necessarily deny us a place at the World Cup. It just potentially denied us a penalty shoot out to get there.

Whether Delaney meant it to be made public is also beside the point. He's paid a good salary to represent football in this country on the international stage. He showed a complete lack of understanding of the game and made us look utterly stupid in front of the rest of the football world.

kippy · 22-12-2014 9:28am

Big Ears wrote: »

Well actually Andy used to be pretty well known in Ireland and spent some time in the nation's sporting limelight. He was our only boxing representative at the 2004 Olympics, and during the Bernard Dunne years (and for a while after), he was the main fighter other than Bernard to headline shows on RTE.
He headlined 5 RTE shows, aswell as being on 2 (televised fights) Dunne undercards. He frequently mixed up spells of fighting in Europe with spells of fighting in the US, but once RTE gave up on boxing he pretty much exclusively focused on fighting in the US, where he also had a failed World title attempt vs Julio Cesar Chavez jnr. That fight was massive in the US, but of course got little attention here.

The last time RTE showed a boxing fight was Willie Casey losing in a round to Guillermo Rigondeaux for the interim WBA Super-Bantamweight World title, back in March 2011. RTE had refused to show the fight, citing cost as a reason, so the promoter paid for all of RTE's production costs and they showed it at the last minute with virtually no advertisement.
This is the only boxing card RTE gained the rights for since Ryle Nugent's tenure as RTE head of sport began.

There was actually 4 other pro boxing cards since he took over, between September 2010 and November 2010, but these were all under a previous arrangement RTE had with Brian Peters (before Nugent took over). So 4 pro shows on RTE in 10 weeks in 2010.......0 shows on RTE in the last 3 years, 9 months.

On the boxing thing,
It is a shame more high level Irish boxing isn't shown but isn't that a reflection of:
1. The higher costs of showing a boxing match on TV (coupled with the often complex rights packages that BN seem to hold)
2. The lack of funding in general RTE have to spend on such events - live sport has dropped off a fair bit in recent years, even a highlights package of the Premierleague has been dropped.

Granted, that shouldnt stop RTE supporting the "lower/younger" levels of Irish boxing.
TBH, this is probably a thread in itself.

Pherekydes · 22-12-2014 9:40am

Borders no.2 wrote: »

Rory McIllroy for Olympics etc.

The fact that golf is in the Rio Olympics is not Ireland's sporting embarrassment; it's the IOC's.

kippy · 22-12-2014 9:41am

Pherekydes wrote: »

The fact that golf is in the Rio Olympics is not Ireland's sporting embarrassment; it's the IOC's.

Again, it's all about the $$$$ I'd suggest.

lukesmom · 22-12-2014 9:44am

murpho999 wrote: »

That mad priest Neil Horan who ran on to the Marathon course in Athens 2004 and cost the leader a gold medal.

I was embarrassed that he was Irish.

Is he Niall horans father? Cos he runs in one direction too....:)

bucketybuck · 22-12-2014 9:50am

Muahahaha wrote: »

Now if Delaney's lobbying behind the scenes had of actually resulted in FIFA somehow allowing a 33rd team play due to the extraordinary nature of the Henry handball then Ireland would have been going to the World Cup after all and everyone would be saying fair play to John Delaney for coming up with the idea.

Thats grand, except for the small problem that there was never, ever going to be a 33rd team added to the world cup and it was utterly ridiculous to even suggest it, in private or not. No wonder Blatter repeated it to the media, he probably lost all respect for Delaney the minute he heard it.

And the Henry handball was not extraordinary in nature.

DeanAustin · 22-12-2014 10:02am

bucketybuck wrote: »

Thats grand, except for the small problem that there was never, ever going to be a 33rd team added to the world cup and it was utterly ridiculous to even suggest it, in private or not. No wonder Blatter repeated it to the media, he probably lost all respect for Delaney the minute he heard it.

And the Henry handball was not extraordinary in nature.

It takes extraordinary stupidity to make Blatter look clever but Delaney managed it.

I'd say FIFA p1ssed themselves when the suggestion was put to them.

cython · 22-12-2014 10:12am

ROAAAR wrote:

Actually you're wrong it was in the aviva before being done up. You're right about it not being in croker though good man, I just slipped out the wrong name there I was aware of that. I'd be a bit of a sporting expert in the area if you know what I mean ï¿¼

Which in fact means the poster is correct, seeing as the Aviva before being done up/rebuilt was known as Lansdowne Road.....

nxbyveromdwjpg · 22-12-2014 10:14am

Katie Taylor turning out to be a jesus freak was pretty bad

ollie1 · 22-12-2014 10:23am

Stephen Ireland and the whole dead granny thing and his jeep that had the pink alloys/pink seats on it so embarrassing.

SEPT 23 1989 · 22-12-2014 10:23am

nm wrote: »

Katie Taylor turning out to be a jesus freak was pretty bad

why?

rabwaygal · 22-12-2014 10:24am

nm wrote: »

Katie Taylor turning out to be a jesus freak was pretty bad

In fairness thats a crazy thing to say.

chrysagon · 22-12-2014 10:26am

ollie1 wrote: »

Stephen Ireland and the whole dead granny thing and his jeep that had the pink alloys/pink seats on it so embarrassing.

he just embarrassed himself, and proved what a low IQ he really has !

Podge83 · 22-12-2014 10:28am

Whether Delaney's, 33rd team comment was to straight Sepp in private or not he may as well have got a tin of paint, broke into the Soccer City Stadium, wrote it across the pitch and signed it in blood. This was an act of incredible stupidity, brought the nation into disrepute (never mind bringing the game into disrepute) and is hard to be beaten as an embarrassing moment in Ireland's sporting history, which isn't actually that bad given the size of our country.

The only thing that could be more embarrassing is that he's still in the job, parading around the world with a fancy piece on his arm..... Actually, when you think about it he probably would fit right in on FIFA's top table.

Hoop66 · 22-12-2014 10:34am

Bertser wrote: »

We won, but the manner of the 2-1 victory in San Marino in 2007 was extremely bad. Another Staunton masterclass.

Jesus yeah. My father in law gets tickets to most Ireland games and that was the first one he took me to.

He spent most of the game with his head in his hands, apologising for how **** it was.

ROAAAR · 22-12-2014 10:34am

cython wrote: »

Which in fact means the poster is correct, seeing as the Aviva before being done up/rebuilt was known as Lansdowne Road.....

I was very drunk reading all of this last night.

grazeaway · 22-12-2014 10:36am

Every time that rubbish Ireland's call is rolled out for the rugby matches.

I remember watching the 07 World Cup and all the countries came out behind their flag except Ireland who play under the flag of the irfu. It's as if they are ashamed to be irish.

Like a lot of people in the pub to see them narrowly beat Georgia I was gutted for the Georgians at least they had some real pride in thier country.

chrysagon · 22-12-2014 10:39am

Have to admit, i never liked Ireland call...

juniord · 22-12-2014 10:39am

when the cork footballers left croke park to catch a train, the ref started extra time without them in a league final

iDave · 22-12-2014 10:40am

grazeaway wrote: »

Every time that rubbish Ireland's call is rolled out for the rugby matches.

I remember watching the 07 World Cup and all the countries came out behind their flag except Ireland who play under the flag of the irfu. It's as if they are ashamed to be irish.

Like a lot of people in the pub to see them narrowly beat Georgia I was gutted for the Georgians at least they had some real pride in thier country.

As much as I dislike Irelands Call there are cultural sensitivities. At the 11 World Cup the Ireland team came out behind the Tricolour and Ulster flag. Irish solution to an Irish problem.
As for Georgia and pride in their country. Aren't the South Ossetians trying to break away and be Russian?

grazeaway · 22-12-2014 10:42am

nm wrote: »

Katie Taylor turning out to be a jesus freak was pretty bad

Hardly, the girls faith should have nothing to do with it. If she was cathloic and did a rosary before each bout would you be worried.

Met her once and what struck me was just how shy she was. Very different to many of the men's boxers who are all mouth. Hope she wins gold in rio again the pressure the poor girl must have been under in London must have been huge.

grazeaway · 22-12-2014 10:43am

iDave wrote: »

As much as I dislike Irelands Call there are cultural sensitivities. At the 11 World Cup the Ireland team came out behind the Tricolour and Ulster flag. Irish solution to an Irish problem.
As for Georgia and pride in their country. Aren't the South Ossetians trying to break away and be Russian?

I think they have succeeded too.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 22-12-2014 10:44am

Rory McIlroy and Brian O'Driscolls personal lives being sprawled all over the papers.I'm pretty sure if they wanted to both of them could keep their private lives private but for some unknown reason they seem intent on letting the whole world in on their lives.

The desperation surrounding McIlroy declaring for Ireland in the Olympics.As golf is not a proper Olympic sport and that it was fairly obvious that McIlroy declared for Ireland for PR reasons but we'll still over celebrate if he happened to win a completely meaningless gold.The suggestion by the head of the Irish Olympic Committee he should be the flag bearer over proper Olympic athletes was fairly embarrassing.

the way the FAI and media see no shame in trying to get people who have no interest in playing soccer for Ireland to play for the irish soccer team and the fact that a large amount of people in this country don't see anything wrong with it is quite embarassing. It's disrespectful to the expats who genuinely want to play or Ireland as their first choice and care about the country and disrespectful to soccer players born and raised here who are never are denied a chance by these shameless plastic paddys who don't really give a fcuk about this country.

Richart Strauss playing rugby for Ireland

Egginacup · 22-12-2014 10:46am

padd b1975 wrote: »

It was the hammer.

1984.

Not only did he flatten the cage once, delaying the whole schedule of events, he managed to do it a second time.

Our hero's name was Declan Hegarty.

:pac:
Arsehole. That was the Atlanta Olympics wasn't it? I don't remember seeing the eejit.

Watching any episode of Barry McGuigan's short-lived chat show was painfully embarrassing too.

iDave · 22-12-2014 10:47am

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Rory McIlroy and Brian O'Driscolls personal lives being sprawled all over the papers.I'm pretty sure if they wanted to both of them could keep their private lives private but for some unknown reason they seem intent on letting the whole world in on their lives.

The desperation surrounding McIlroy declaring for Ireland in the Olympics.As golf is not a proper Olympic sport and that it was fairly obvious that McIlroy declared for Ireland for PR reasons but we'll still over celebrate if he happened to win a completely meaningless gold.The suggestion by the head of the Irish Olympic Committee he should be the flag bearer over proper Olympic athletes was fairly embarrassing.

the way the FAI and media see no shame in trying to get people who have no interest in playing soccer for Ireland to play for the irish soccer team and the fact that a large amount of people in this country don't see anything wrong with it is quite embarassing. It's disrespectful to the expats who genuinely want to play or Ireland as their first choice and care about the country and disrespectful to soccer players born and raised here who are never are denied a chance by these shameless plastic paddys who don't really give a fcuk about this country.

Richart Strauss playing rugby for Ireland

Nothing wrong with Richardt Strauss. Its within the rules of the game. Nathan Hines doesn't exactly have a Scottish accent does he?
And the English are quite happy to have a paddy captain their cricket team. We are FAR from the only country doing this.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 22-12-2014 10:48am

The fact that Martin Breheny is the country's leading GAA writer.For a land of supposedly great writers it's amazing how poor the standard of GAA writing is.

Hoop66 · 22-12-2014 10:49am

Does it matter? I don't know a single GAA fan that can read.

iDave · 22-12-2014 10:49am

The standard of teammates Niall McNamee has had to deal with

chrysagon · 22-12-2014 10:52am

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

The fact that Martin Breheny is the country's leading GAA writer.For a land of supposedly great writers it's amazing how poor the standard of GAA writing is.

Have to agree, these journalists so wise, colm keys included, telling managers through the media, what they should be doing, tactics wise!!

The same journalists only ever ran to the fridge, yet an expert at everything, maybe they should step up to the plate, coach a team and show the GAA WORLD how much of a FAKE they really are!!

Ireland's biggest sporting embarrassment?

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