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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Supposedly turning up late for training. Just what was said in that video above.

    Ah, hadn't watched the video, so is that the basis of the rumour? A fella on the road with a microphone for a fanzine thing? :)

    Van Gaal said he was injured when asked, the way Van Gaal is you would think he would have just said he was not selected if it was something else.

    Reporter: "Was Ander Herrera injured or ill today that he was left out?"
    Van Gall: "He was not selected"

    Seems more in line with how he deals with the press then the answer he gave, anyways, hopefully just bollix and though he is new to the club and obviously we don't know a whole lot about his personality he just doesn't strike me as the type


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    David Moyes would have been proud of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Gits_bone wrote: »
    David Moyes would have been proud of that.

    He would, he would also be proud of the unbeaten run, he would have been proud of the winning streak, he would have been proud of many things today would our Dave.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    kryogen wrote: »
    He would, he would also be proud of the unbeaten run, he would have been proud of the winning streak, he would have been proud of many things today would our Dave.

    Poor Dave had
    Evra
    Ferdinand - who can't get into the QPR team
    Vidic - Who's having a stinker in Italy
    Kagawa - Having a stinker in Germany
    Welbeck - (Still not scoring)
    all starters in his team.

    He didn't have Falcao - One of the finest strikers in the world
    Di Maria - MOM in CHamps league final, and drove Argentina to world cup final
    Shaw - Voted in the PFA team of the year last season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ElChe32


    Git just do yourself a favour and quit while you're behind.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Gits_bone wrote: »
    Poor Dave had
    Evra
    Ferdinand - who can't get into the QPR team
    Vidic - Who's having a stinker in Italy
    Kagawa - Having a stinker in Germany
    Welbeck - (Still not scoring)
    all starters in his team.

    He didn't have Falcao - One of the finest strikers in the world
    Di Maria - MOM in CHamps league final, and drove Argentina to world cup final
    Shaw - Voted in the PFA team of the year last season

    I hear he was proud of Di Marias performance in the CL final last year now that you mention it, he was heard to whisper that he was proud of Shaw for the tight drain pipe jeans, though I suspect he may have just been saying that to boost a youngsters confidence.

    Course, the fact that David Moyes would have been proud of a draw, away at Villa as you say, is probably a pretty fair indicator of why he was not exactly a good fit for the club.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    ElChe32 wrote: »
    Git just do yourself a favour and quit while you're behind.

    This is a discussion board, I'm discussing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    kryogen wrote: »
    I hear he was proud of Di Marias performance in the CL final last year now that you mention it, he was heard to whisper that he was proud of Shaw for the tight drain pipe jeans, though I suspect he may have just been saying that to boost a youngsters confidence.

    Course, the fact that David Moyes would have been proud of a draw, away at Villa as you say, is probably a pretty fair indicator of why he was not exactly a good fit for the club.

    The performance I meant.

    Cross cross cross cross cross. Luckily you had one of the best headers of a ball in the league.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Gits_bone wrote: »
    The performance I meant.

    Cross cross cross cross cross. Luckily you had one of the best headers of a ball in the league.

    Yes, we were all proud of having one of the best headers of a ball in the league start the game, with sharpness and more time on the field with his teammates he will continue to show that we are right to be proud of him for being one of the best headers of a ball in the league.

    More then that, David Moyes would be proud of him.

    Oh, and it really doesn't matter if you meant the performance or the result, the sad fact that, as you state yourself, poor old David would have been proud of that is still a solid indicator of why he was not a good fit for the club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    God why do the reply to him. Do you not realise the SF will weed these kind posters out in time


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭SherlockWatson


    Gits_bone wrote: »
    The performance I meant.

    Cross cross cross cross cross. Luckily you had one of the best headers of a ball in the league.


    Yawn.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    Headshot wrote: »
    God why do the reply to him. Do you not realise the SF will weed these kind posters out in time

    Listen here, any chance ye can reply to my posts and discuss the posts rather than these snide petty personal comments???? Don't like my posts or what I discuss then ignore them. Let other people decide for themselves if they want to discuss it or not, they can make up their own minds. You don't own the board.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Headshot wrote: »
    God why do the reply to him. Do you not realise the SF will weed these kind posters out in time

    Sometimes, sometimes I like the light entertainment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    So what are we hoping for tomorrow? Don't want Arsenal catching up or Liverpool gaining confidence, is a draw the best result or do we just hope Liverpool go further back and expect Arsenal and United to get in?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    kryogen wrote: »
    Yes, we were all proud of having one of the best headers of a ball in the league start the game, with sharpness and more time on the field with his teammates he will continue to show that we are right to be proud of him for being one of the best headers of a ball in the league.

    More then that, David Moyes would be proud of him.

    Oh, and it really doesn't matter if you meant the performance or the result, the sad fact that, as you state yourself, poor old David would have been proud of that is still a solid indicator of why he was not a good fit for the club.

    Reminded me of the Moyes days alright. Bad defending at the back as well, Evans must have been wearing Santas boots, was stuck under the ball all day. Jones is class though.

    Blackett wasn't good at LB though imo. Had a heavy touch. Decent passer albeit. Agbolahors sending off probably harmed your chances, game went dead after that imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭Hococop


    So what are we hoping for tomorrow? Don't want Arsenal catching up or Liverpool gaining confidence, is a draw the best result or do we just hope Liverpool go further back and expect Arsenal and United to get in?

    Draw for me, best result for us imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    So what are we hoping for tomorrow? Don't want Arsenal catching up or Liverpool gaining confidence, is a draw the best result or do we just hope Liverpool go further back and expect Arsenal and United to get in?

    Draw would be good but we should get more concerned about Arsenal winning. Pool or Draw for me


    I'm also getting worried about Spurs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Gits_bone wrote: »
    Reminded me of the Moyes days alright. Bad defending at the back as well, Evans must have been wearing Santas boots, was stuck under the ball all day. Jones is class though.

    Blackett wasn't good at LB though imo. Had a heavy touch. Decent passer albeit. Agbolahors sending off probably harmed your chances, game went dead after that imo.

    Reminded you of the good old days huh? Ah sure we all pine for something good thats gone away now and then. I understand, Jones was shaky in parts but taking into consideration all factors he was alright, Evans was shaky and Blackett was ok, having two wingers as your left and right sided wide defenders is hardly gonna help your defence though, neither is having a midfield of Fletcher Rooney and Mata.....

    The sending off helped them in a way alright I agree with that. Shame we couldn't break them down, not there yet by any stretch of the imagination but certainly moving in the right direction with exciting days ahead.

    19 points from the last 21, very hard to be unhappy with that. Roll on Christmas!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Headshot wrote: »
    Draw would be good but we should get more concerned about Arsenal winning. Pool or Draw for me


    I'm also getting worried about Spurs

    How could you ever worry about Spurs!?

    I don't care who wins tomorrow really, I would probably prefer to see Arsenal win since it amuses me more when Liverpool suffer, though we are reaching a point where I am beginning to fear for The Rodgers job, don't want to see him sacked.

    A draw is probably the best result with multiple sendings off and long suspensions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I know Kry but I just have a felling about Spurs. I think they be within a whisker of CL spot At the end of the season


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Headshot wrote: »
    I know Kry but I just have a felling about Spurs. I think they be within a whisker of CL spot At the end of the season

    I would be targeting 3rd this season, maybe try to sneak second, but fourth is not something I think we will be bogged down fighting out. Let Spurs, Arsenal and Everton worry about who is gonna finish 4th 5th and 6th and concentrate on reeling in our actual title rivals and getting closer to them.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    kryogen wrote: »
    I would be targeting 3rd this season, maybe try to sneak second, but fourth is not something I think we will be bogged down fighting out. Let Spurs, Arsenal and Everton worry about who is gonna finish 4th 5th and 6th and concentrate on reeling in our actual title rivals and getting closer to them.

    :)

    I don't understand all this optimism. We've largely been at best average over the last 7 games and have on many occasions, scraped a win. It was great to see a 3-0 scoreline against Liverpool but if De Gea wasn't between the sticks, Liverpool could've had 5 or 6.

    Today, we couldn't put away an average Villa side with ten men and continue to look shaky at the back. We're slow, lethargic and leaky at the back. The only difference between the Moyes era is there is a bit more confidence and belief in the squad.

    It's great to be 3rd but reeling in City and Chelsea isn't going to happen this season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    It doesn't need to happen this season though.

    Scraping wins or blowing teams away gives you the same amount of points and this season is all about getting back on track, getting back into Europe and gaining confidence again, disjointed performances are going to be there all season, the lack of consistency in team selection and system guarantees that.

    All that actually matters is, one way or another the team is returning a very good points total lately and that they keep that up and set it up for a proper title challenge again next season.

    Your glass must be almost empty for that line of thought to be overly optimistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    kryogen wrote: »
    It doesn't need to happen this season though.

    Scraping wins or blowing teams away gives you the same amount of points and this season is all about getting back on track, getting back into Europe and gaining confidence again, disjointed performances are going to be there all season, the lack of consistency in team selection and system guarantees that.

    All that actually matters is, one way or another the team is returning a very good points total lately and that they keep that up and set it up for a proper title challenge again next season.

    Your glass must be almost empty for that line of thought to be overly optimistic.

    Do you not remember Leicester, West Brom or the first three games? We're on a lucky run now but this has the potential to collapse very quickly and we could find ourselves 5th or 6th by the end of the season. I'm delighted with our winning streak but when did we ever have to breath a sigh of relief when the full time whistle went at home to Stoke or West Ham before? We're absolutely toxic at the back and laboured in attack. We're still a work in progress.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    This is a different team to the first three games though so not sure about the relevance

    I am not sure what you are under the impression I am claiming?

    We are not absolutely toxic at the back, we are exposed too much and the defence doesn't get enough protection a lot yes, if you were to say we are absolutely riddled with injury and inconsistency at the back I would agree alright, very hard to build stability in this situation, impossible in fact and thank **** for De Gea. The one big giant consistent we have back there

    Why is it called a lucky run when teams are grinding out wins? I know we have had one or two easy results also, but for the most part its been a grind in terms of results, we certainly wouldn't have been grinding the results out last year since that was something we simply couldnt do. It always amuses me when people speak of luck and ifs and buts :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,903 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    For those of us who still held out faint hope that Fletcher could regain the form of before, today was not a good day.

    LVG will be ruthless, as he needs to be, but today Fletcher was awful and we will not be starting any games again after Herrera, Blind or Fellaini come back

    He kept handing the ball to the opposition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    I'd love to see Fletcher drop a division or two and finish his career on a high with regular first team football.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    thelad95 wrote: »
    I'd love to see Fletcher drop a division or two and finish his career on a high with regular first team football.

    There's worse players than this version of Fletcher in the PL. I'm sure there would be one or two that would take him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    https://twitter.com/Cuadrado/status/546347308464340992

    Juan Cuadrado was very happy for his fellow Colombian. Rumours are we will make a bid for Juan in January.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    thelad95 wrote: »
    I'd love to see Fletcher drop a division or two and finish his career on a high with regular first team football.

    Might move to the SPL either, hopefully he does find somewhere to play at the end of the season. Had to have been tough to get his fitness back


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