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10 round numbers- How many of these can you run in 2014?
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Krusty_Clown wrote: »Yep. According to the accepted rules, you should be good. Given that I missed the 400m by just over 2/10ths of a second, not sure what my time would have been, had I been self-recording.
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KielyUnusual wrote: »Hearty congratulations on being the first to complete the 10 round numbers happygoose!
That's some spread of times.
Out of interest, what time are you least happy with on the list and what do you feel is your best?
What would you consider your optimal distance? Would this change throughout the year as you focus on different things?
Cheers Kiely.
I enjoyed the 10 mile, I'd say it's the best of the 10, it was around the time of nationals and the Clubs training was leaning towards a few distance athletes competing there at the time so I was in my best shape around July. The mile time is weak.
I haven't a clue what my optimal distance is although I would like to find out. All my times are pretty level although I never do anything much in terms of sessions specific to middle distance. I'm curious to see where a bit of effort at that end of the spectrum will get me. I'm relatively new to running and never went near anything on a track until last year. I've only ran one proper 800 and 1500. I might chance having a lactate test in order to see of that'll shed any light on it, for curiosity sake if nothing else.
I didn't really have a focus in 2014. I enjoy doing races, I probably race too often, but I'd miss them if I wasn't competing. Next year I hope to limit myself to the shorter end of things and get a good range of times from 200 to 5k, and maybe jump a hurdle or two
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happygoose wrote: »Cheers Kiely.
I enjoyed the 10 mile, I'd say it's the best of the 10, it was around the time of nationals and the Clubs training was leaning towards a few distance athletes competing there at the time so I was in my best shape around July. The mile time is weak.
I haven't a clue what my optimal distance is although I would like to find out. All my times are pretty level although I never do anything much in terms of sessions specific to middle distance. I'm curious to see where a bit of effort at that end of the spectrum will get me. I'm relatively new to running and never went near anything on a track until last year. I've only ran one proper 800 and 1500. I might chance having a lactate test in order to see of that'll shed any light on it, for curiosity sake if nothing else.
I didn't really have a focus in 2014. I enjoy doing races, I probably race too often, but I'd miss them if I wasn't competing. Next year I hope to limit myself to the shorter end of things and get a good range of times from 200 to 5k, and maybe jump a hurdle or two
You may have said this already, but do you mind telling us your age and background. You say you're new to the sport, so even more impressive. If you're young you should try to find where your real talent lies and get serious on the times in that or those distances. Well done in any case.0 -
I know it's all kind of 'makey-uppey' stuff, but that's a really great achievement, and having that kind of spread of talent is superb. I don't necessarily think that you have to specialize in one area at the cost of all others (everyone should be encouraged to dabble in some alternative areas), but certainly focusing training in one region should see some significant gains, particularly if your training has been pretty generic.
Here's your vdots (IAAF points) for the relevant times:
400 - 71.75 (477)
800 - 66.29 (588)
Mile - 61.01 (520)
3k - 61.15 (550)
5k - 62.98 (585)
5 mile - 60.87 (N/A)
10k - 61.63 (611)
10 mile - 62.52 (641)
1/2M - 61.78 (613)
Marathon - 58.57 (599)
The vdot system (which doesn't really translate across spreads) suggests that your strength is in the shorter stuff, while the IAAF tables rates your 10 mile as your best performance, and suggests you should stick to the longer stuff (up to half). I guess you gotta figure out what you enjoy the most!
Congrats again.
*Edit*: Here's my chart. I'd disregard the 400/800m vdot figures as they're a a bit skewed. You can see that I trained for the 5k/marathon, and all of the others were 'just turn up' races.
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Krusty_Clown wrote: »*Edit*: Here's my chart. I'd disregard the 400/800m vdot figures as they're a a bit skewed. You can see that I trained for the 5k/marathon, and all of the others were 'just turn up' races.
Your VDOT figures are still amazingly tight over the distances - I presume that's a function of aerobic development?
I don't think the 400/800 figures are that much use generally for anyone - an untrained first 400 is a good bit higher for me than my 800, which was more or less the focus for my last summer. Times in 2014 for 5k/3k/mile are very consistent, but much lower than the 800 time, which would also make sense.
And then a massive cliff after 5k.0 -
Krusty_Clown wrote: »I know it's all kind of 'makey-uppey' stuff, but that's a really great achievement, and having that kind of spread of talent is superb. I don't necessarily think that you have to specialize in one area at the cost of all others (everyone should be encouraged to dabble in some alternative areas), but certainly focusing training in one region should see some significant gains, particularly if your training has been pretty generic.
Here's your vdots (IAAF points) for the relevant times:
400 - 71.75 (477)
800 - 66.29 (588)
Mile - 61.01 (520)
3k - 61.15 (550)
5k - 62.98 (585)
5 mile - 60.87 (N/A)
10k - 61.63 (611)
10 mile - 62.52 (641)
1/2M - 61.78 (613)
Marathon - 58.57 (599)
The vdot system (which doesn't really translate across spreads) suggests that your strength is in the shorter stuff, while the IAAF tables rates your 10 mile as your best performance, and suggests you should stick to the longer stuff (up to half). I guess you gotta figure out what you enjoy the most!
Congrats again.
*Edit*: Here's my chart. I'd disregard the 400/800m vdot figures as they're a a bit skewed. You can see that I trained for the 5k/marathon, and all of the others were 'just turn up' races.
Is there an online calculator for the current IAAF points or do you have to trawl through those archaic pages of data?
PS I see what you did there on your Vdot chart - changing the scale on one axis...
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No, but that's a damn good idea.Is there an online calculator for the current IAAF points or do you have to trawl through those archaic pages of data?
I can't take credit for that! It was all Excel 2010's work. Interesting that there's less variation in HappyGoose's trend lines, suggesting he's a better rounded competitor.dna_leri wrote:PS I see what you did there on your Vdot chart - changing the scale on one axis...0 -
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Thanks folks, some kind words there, fair play, nice to see how the numbers stack up against each other too.
In relation to my background -
I've a similar one to many on here, a convert from GAA during my 30's which I played at a reasonable level. I spent my 20's faffin about as ya do, I don't regret it, a life for a young person in athletics involves massive sacrifice whereas if you're in GAA you can just toddle along without giving up too many nights out
I ran a 3:54 in DCM off that GAA training in 2009. Six 12 mile runs and a 16 miler in training. It was a horrible experience. I went back to GAA in 2010 and gave up in 2011 when I started running properly. I did a lot of cycling that year too, joined a Club in August, ran a 1:23 half and a 2:58 DCM.
Respiratory problems and an operation in 2012 had me out for most of the year, I entered Berlin but had to defer.
I went back to the GAA in 2013 and tried managing both until June when I ditched it. In terms of athletics I was filling in for my Club on XC and National League teams. I ran decent consistent mileage albeit with a couple of chest infections which led to breaks. I managed to break 17 for the 5k and ran 2:49 in Berlin. I tried track for the first time and had a good first full XC season.
This year my times got better, I plugged away at the training knowing I turn 35 and with that possibly having a chance to be competitive at a Masters level. A lot of athletes don't bother with the Masters but I think it's something that is attractive for 'returnee runners' yet to hit pb's and win medals, as many on here are, as opposed to seasoned athletes who are past their best times.
I won't add much specific training in 2015, I don't plan on doing anything too long so I will add a bit more quality at the expense of some volume. Ill work on areas that I've neglected that I think will help - core, flexibility, drills, etc. I need to chip away at where I'm weak.0
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