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Benjy the gay bull

  • 15-12-2014 03:01AM
    #1
    JupiterKid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,955 ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I was reading on Pink News that an Irish bull called Benjy was saved from the slaughterhouse for showing more interest in other bulls than the cows he was supposed to breed with. He is now in an animal sanctuary in Norwich in the UK.

    So what do Boardsies make of gay animals?:pac:


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  • #2
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Gay beefburgers? Yummy.


  • #3
    Supergurrier
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    Burgers


  • #4
    AndonHandon
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    Pink meat?


  • #5
    SteelyDanJalapeno
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    gay burgers


  • #6
    Honey Monster
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    JupiterKid wrote: »
    So what do Boardsies make of gay animals?:pac:

    Don't care, cut its face off, cover it in butter and fry it. Tastes the same.


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  • #7
    Kovu
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    He's set to be castrated first thing after arrival so he soon won't know if he's on a cow or a bull or a horse or a hedge.....


  • #8
    braddun
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    from County Mayo


    need I say more


  • #9
    Calhoun
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    Im not picky on what edible animals identify their sexual orientation what matters is how tender and tasty.


  • #10
    MadYaker
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    Kovu wrote: »
    He's set to be castrated first thing after arrival so he soon won't know if he's on a cow or a bull or a horse or a hedge.....

    I was surprised when I heard that. Normally if a bull is going to be castrated its done shortly after birth via a bloodless method. I don't know if you've ever seen a fully grown bulls schlong and balls but its massive and has several large blood vessels so id imagine chopping it off when the bull is fully grown would be a fairly big medical procedure and would be extremely painful and stressful for the animal. I find hard to understand why an animal welfare sanctuary would inflict that on the animal, especially if its supposedly gay and has no interest in females. Perhaps the lower testosterone levels would make it less aggressive.


  • #11
    [Deleted User]
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    Lots of gay animals OP. Always has been, always will. It's not only human nature, it's just nature.

    The difference now is that the few who control the media aren't afraid that everyone's head will explode if you find out about it, or that underage kids will be willingly diving into bed with Jimmy Saville types because they saw a gay penguin couple on the Discovery channel.

    Then again, the other difference is that penguins don't spit at each other, throw stones, shout spiteful abuse, or try and take the kids away from gay penguin parents. Only humans do that.

    God, penguins really are better than people aren't they?***







    *** Rhetorical question. Please ignore it, I've been drinking.


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  • #12
    Zechariah Angry Thumbscrew
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    i dont understand why he was "saved" what difference does it make if he's gay :confused:


  • #13
    _asdfghjkl_
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    Load of bollox, waste of time and money


  • #14
    [Deleted User]
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    Mira Lively Warship wrote: »
    i dont understand why he was "saved" what difference does it make if he's gay :confused:

    It's a relatively new concept to acknowledge gay animals. Previously it was the duty of the church and the right wing to tell you being gay was "a human perversion" and "unnatural".

    The existence of gay animals, who don't allow Gods or 3000 year old books or net curtain peaking neighbours to influence their sexuality, are therefore something of a modern rarity and in need of saving in order for humans to witness.

    If an animal is gay then it might suggest an animal can make a choice, ie be intelligent and decide to what's not the expected norm, and therefore not be eaten.

    You can agree with it or not, I don't care, I'm just saying that's the reasoning behind some people's wish to save gay animals from your dinner plate.


  • #15
    Zechariah Angry Thumbscrew
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's a relatively new concept to acknowledge gay animals. Previously it was the duty of the church and the right wing to tell you being gay was "a human perversion" and "unnatural".

    The existence of gay animals, who don't allow Gods or 3000 year old books or net curtain peaking neighbours to influence their sexuality, are therefore something of a modern rarity and in need of saving in order for humans to witness.

    If an animal is gay then it might suggest an animal can make a choice, ie be intelligent and decide to what's not the expected norm, and therefore not be eaten.

    You can agree with it or not, I don't care, I'm just saying that's the reasoning behind some people's wish to save gay animals from your dinner plate.

    but there is plenty of animals that are known to not be particularly picky with where they put it I'm not for or against it just dont really understand the logic behind it


  • #16
    Adyx
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    Who the **** cares? He's an animal. Can I eat him? Don't care if he's gay. Can I not eat him? Don't care if he's gay. Is he actually a human? Still don't give a flying **** if he's gay. After 34 years do know what I've learned OP? People don't care what you think. So I worry only about myself.


  • #17
    [Deleted User]
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    Mira Lively Warship wrote: »
    but there is plenty of animals that are known to not be particularly picky with where they put it

    You could say the same thing about most people!:p


  • #18
    Zechariah Angry Thumbscrew
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    You could say the same thing about most people!:p

    and i would :D


  • #19
    Canis Lupus
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's a relatively new concept to acknowledge gay animals. Previously it was the duty of the church and the right wing to tell you being gay was "a human perversion" and "unnatural".

    The existence of gay animals, who don't allow Gods or 3000 year old books or net curtain peaking neighbours to influence their sexuality, are therefore something of a modern rarity and in need of saving in order for humans to witness.

    If an animal is gay then it might suggest an animal can make a choice, ie be intelligent and decide to what's not the expected norm, and therefore not be eaten.

    You can agree with it or not, I don't care, I'm just saying that's the reasoning behind some people's wish to save gay animals from your dinner plate.

    Erm you were doing well up to the bolded bit.... What choice would be made in this matter exactly by the bull? He chooses to be gay or chooses to fancy bulls? You're not suggesting homosexuality is a choice are you :)


  • #20
    blinding
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    I wonder could anyone tell the difference when eating the beef.

    I doubt it.


  • #21
    [Deleted User]
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    Canis Lupus wrote: »
    You're not suggesting homosexuality is a choice are you :)

    No, not saying it's a "choice". You are what you are, I just mean it is something you (me, and everyone else) has to sit down and think about at some point in their lives.

    Gay, straight, or bi, no matter how you see yourself you wouldn't be attracted 100% to all people from one group. Not all gay men/women are attracted to every single man/woman after all, but it is something all of us need to think about. Sexuality might not be "a choice" in the sense that it comes natural, but you still need to think about it when you get to a certain age and make up your mind.


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  • #22
    Canis Lupus
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    No, not saying it's a "choice". You are what you are, I just mean it is something you (me, and everyone else) has to sit down and think about at some point in their lives.

    Gay, straight, or bi, no matter how you see yourself you wouldn't be attracted 100% to all people from one group. Not all gay men/women are attracted to every single man/woman after all, but it is something all of us need to think about. Sexuality might not be "a choice" in the sense that it comes natural, but you still need to think about it when you get to a certain age and make up your mind.

    Never had to think about it. I like women. I imagine the bull is attracted to what he's attracted to... Doesn't make for an argument against eating meat as the bull isn't actively making a choice.


  • #23
    [Deleted User]
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    Canis Lupus wrote: »
    Doesn't make for an argument against eating meat as the bull isn't actively making a choice.

    OK, I guess it doesn't. Also drifts dramatically off topic from the OP's question, which was "what do you think of gay animals", and not "please make a case for and against eating meat based on the animal's sexuality"


  • #24
    Nekarsulm
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    He is being castrated because the animal sanctuary castrated all entire male animals it receives. Otherwise there would be complete havoc, with fighting males and uncontrolled pregnancies. Weather he is gay or not is not relevant. Male bovines are usually castrated before 12 months of age, as they become aggressive and dangerous to humans otherwise, and also, cannot be kept in groups with female bovines. The exception is when they are kept for "bull beef" production. This is a specialist area of production requiring very particular housing and management methods, and they would usually be slaughtered before 24 months of age. Breeding bulls would not be castrated, but in directly for slaughter once their usefulness was over. Be that due to age, poor offspring, or becoming dangerous. Bengy was a marketing triumph, a decidedly average bull with a value of perhaps 1600 euro was sold for 4000. The right sucker came along at the right time, and the money to pay .


  • #25
    henryporter
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    braddun wrote: »
    from County Mayo


    need I say more

    Ah yes Mayo, the San Francisco of Ireland.


  • #26
    Reggie.
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    Kovu wrote: »
    He's set to be castrated first thing after arrival so he soon won't know if he's on a cow or a bull or a horse or a hedge.....

    Be a great fella to block a gap tho :D


  • #27
    jimgoose
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    You see this all the time, particularly the younger fellas, out in the field humping each other. Bovines aren't that bright, though - strap a big plastic mickey and pair of balloocks on your favourite cow and await results. Problem solved. :D


  • #28
    Nekarsulm
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    Zero to do with intelligence, or choice, or "preference". 100% to do with hormones.


  • #29
    Gyalist
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    The lads on this thread reckon that it was brilliant marketing as the farmer received far more money for Benjy than he would have had he sent him to the abattoir.


  • #30
    Reggie.
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    Gyalist wrote: »
    The lads on this thread reckon that it was brilliant marketing as the farmer received far more money for Benjy than he would have had he sent him to the abbatoir.

    And they were right


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  • #31
    DeadHand
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    This week hundreds of bulls similar to this one will be slaughtered for being too old, too lame, too dangerous, too infertile.A great many more younger, non breeding ones will meet a similar fate. Who's trying to save them?

    At best, this episode is an infantile farce. At worst, it's immoral.

    At a time when the homeless are freezing to death on the streets of our cities, ebola is cutting a swathe through west Africa and Childline lacks the funds to do it's job properly was there really no better use of that 4 grand than to buy a commodity for well over it's actual value?

    No one won here except the cunning farmer who sold this beast to these idiots. Not even the bull wins. What does he get to do? Live out a couple of years castrated and listless in a stall or a small field until he inevitably and rapidly loses the strength needed to support his own massive bulk and is put down by lethal injection, 100s of kilos of perfectly good meat dumped at a time millions of human beings are starving. Is that really preferable to dying quickly and painlessly now and being put to good use?

    A far better use of this time and money would have been to donate it to some organisation that aids young people in the LGBT community. The best they could do now to salvage some good from this sorry debacle would be to slaughter the bull to recoup a fraction of the money they wasted and invest that in a genuine cause.

    Imbeciles.


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