Scam Charities

anto9 · 12-12-2014 05:32PM

Jingle_Balls wrote: »

There has to be one...

I guess the truth hurts .I dont pay as i left my Country that i love ,because of the ruler scum who pay themselves more than the US or most every other Nation on the planet .I do come back for Holidays about every 3 years so i guess they do get some of my money ,which i can not avoide .

valoren · 12-12-2014 05:37PM

First line of the 'About Us' page.

"Animal Ark is registered on MyCharity.ie"

Seems Legit. :rolleyes:

The bit where they try to make you believe the legitimacy should come at the end.

Fail.

Mesrine65 · 12-12-2014 05:41PM

http://www.mycharity.ie/charity_info.php?charityID=721

No real info to peruse...

kristian12 · 12-12-2014 05:59PM

Meathlass wrote: »

@sand678 you can request assistance from another svp branch if you were not happy with your local one.

I am a huge supporter of svdp and know within our local community they do a great deal of good. I have one issue that was raised by my elderly neighbour. They said a lot of people especially the elderly refuse to call them as they are locals volunteering and therefore embarrassing. When I pointed out it was all confidential they said maybe so but the fact you have to see them around puts them off.

On another note I know of one charity who use an outside company to collect card/repetitive payments, once you've cancelled it they wait a couple of mnths and reapply. Unless you have actually put it in writing to your bank they will hand over your money on request. The charity are anything but helpful if you contact them about this as they are getting extra money.

Meathlass · 12-12-2014 06:03PM

kristian12 wrote: »

I am a huge supporter of svdp and know within our local community they do a great deal of good. I have one issue that was raised by my elderly neighbour. They said a lot of people especially the elderly refuse to call them as they are locals volunteering and therefore embarrassing. When I pointed out it was all confidential they said maybe so but the fact you have to see them around puts them off.

This is certainly an issue and I can understand someone's hesitation but maybe you could let your neighbour know that they can request that someone from another area visit them e.g. if they are based in Navan someone from Kells or Slane could visit them instead.

If they're still hesitant they can contact the regional office and someone will come out from there instead.

eisenberg1 · 12-12-2014 06:09PM

hfallada wrote: »

SVP is the only charity that I would donate to. Or the capuchin day centre in Dublin city. They are transparent and actually help the most vulnerable in our society. Having visited the capuchin day centre in 4th year. The work they do is amazing. Without them, the homeless and less fortunate of Dublin city would literally starve.

I cant understand the peoples love of a certain dog charity. I visited their centre and the its was amazing. They had a load of nice company cars out front. I find it disturbing that there is dogs sleeping in an animal shelter better, than most of the homeless in Dublin city

Just curious, how did you know they were company cars?

DoomZ · 12-12-2014 06:10PM

If they're building an Ark...I want in!!

DoomZ · 12-12-2014 06:18PM

TheZohan wrote: »

It's a gaming permit, lotteries. I searched for them on My Charity, 0 results. Also searched for them on the charity registration site, 0 results.

They approach a charity and say "I'll donate money to you, if you give me the rights to sell lottery tickets in your name.."
They give the charity €500 and keep the rest...its legal crime.
Welcome to Ireland...land if the fool.

FouxDaFaFa · 12-12-2014 06:19PM

Yeah, there's a woman frolicking her way around Galway at the moment collecting for the "Deaf Society". I called their head office to see if she was legit because she gave off a major "I'm a conwoman" vibe and they said that she was taking the piss.

I called the Guards and they weren't particulary bothered so now whenever I see her in public asking people for money, I just go up and tell them not to do it.

It's ridiculous. Even "proper" charity collectors are not legally obliged to say "Oh, I get 10% of donations" or whatever it might be. The charity sector is broken.

DoomZ · 12-12-2014 06:29PM

I heard that the woman the sits in a lane way down the side of Shop St in Galway. Travels up from limerick on the bus...she doesn't look poor, homeless or sick...in fact she looks healthier than most her age...strange one

DoomZ · 12-12-2014 06:30PM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

Yeah, there's a woman frolicking her way around Galway at the moment collecting for the "Deaf Society". I called their head office to see if she was legit because she gave off a major "I'm a conwoman" vibe and they said that she was taking the piss.

I called the Guards and they weren't particulary bothered so now whenever I see her in public asking people for money, I just go up and tell them not to do it.

It's ridiculous. Even "proper" charity collectors are not legally obliged to say "Oh, I get 10% of donations" or whatever it might be. The charity sector is broken.

Get a fog horn and blow her ears drums off...scummy bitch

kristian12 · 12-12-2014 06:36PM

Meathlass wrote: »

This is certainly an issue and I can understand someone's hesitation but maybe you could let your neighbour know that they can request that someone from another area visit them e.g. if they are based in Navan someone from Kells or Slane could visit them instead.

If they're still hesitant they can contact the regional office and someone will come out from there instead.

Thank you I will certainly do that.

kupus · 12-12-2014 06:37PM

Ive said this for years and ill say it again. Charity is business and business is business.
Give to local charities the type of ones where your neighbour is shaving his/her head for a cancer relative etc. A charity where you know the end user is the beneficiary.

And not some middle man that has created a business for all his family and other assorted hangers on to work in.
And pays extortion money, bribes, freebies to bad bad people.... ok that part goes in the conspiracy forums.

eviltwin · 12-12-2014 07:51PM

kristian12 wrote: »

I am a huge supporter of svdp and know within our local community they do a great deal of good. I have one issue that was raised by my elderly neighbour. They said a lot of people especially the elderly refuse to call them as they are locals volunteering and therefore embarrassing. When I pointed out it was all confidential they said maybe so but the fact you have to see them around puts them off.

On another note I know of one charity who use an outside company to collect card/repetitive payments, once you've cancelled it they wait a couple of mnths and reapply. Unless you have actually put it in writing to your bank they will hand over your money on request. The charity are anything but helpful if you contact them about this as they are getting extra money.

Very bad organisation. I'd hate my neighbours to know my business. The charity I volunteer for does home visits but you are never placed in your local area for this very reason. It can be embarrassing for all involved.

cassid · 12-12-2014 07:59PM

I do voluntary work for a voluntary charity, no salaries or bonus, that actually helps people, so not all charities are businesses. The big ones yes.

There are a good few scammers around.

I would know a good few charities and once saw a woman outside Superquinn collecting for Starlight, they don't have an operation in Ireland, it looked like the real deal. But I had contacted the UK branch just to make sure and they confirmed my thoughts. I rang Superquinn and they moved her on. Easy money for the unsuspecting.

I saw another bloke shaking a bucket collecting for a "charity" that helps sick children, cancer and animals. I never heard of any charity that crossed such a wide spectrum!!, when I asked him about it, he told me to F*ck off. I pulled out my phone to ring the guards and he picked up his posters and pictures of sick animals and children and legged it ( with his bucket of course)

You also get people doing "events" for real charities that keep the money, they won't answer emails/texts/phone calls, this happens alot in all charities. Much more than most will admit. People sign up for mini marathons, collect money and then ignore the charity and never return the money. There is one charity I know that helps parents who have lost a child, and someone was running events using the charity name and keeping the money for themselves. It is an eye opener at times.

Benny_Cake · 12-12-2014 10:29PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Very bad organisation. I'd hate my neighbours to know my business. The charity I volunteer for does home visits but you are never placed in your local area for this very reason. It can be embarrassing for all involved.

There are advantages and disadvantages to locally based charities like this. It's near impossible to avoid meeting with people you might know in some rural areas, and volunteers would find it difficult to travel long distances in their free time. Common sense does help though - I've a neighbour who receives help from SVP but I never visit him, never drop stuff off..avoids making things awkward for him. Insofar as it's possible we work around this issue and privacy is always respected.

Littlekittylou · 13-12-2014 12:40AM

eviltwin wrote: »

Very bad organisation. I'd hate my neighbours to know my business. The charity I volunteer for does home visits but you are never placed in your local area for this very reason. It can be embarrassing for all involved.

Actually I know a very embarrassing story because of a charity I volunteer for not doing this. It's so weird when I look at them now.

I will take it to my grave though.;)

hfallada · 13-12-2014 10:14AM

eisenberg1 wrote: »

Just curious, how did you know they were company cars?

Because they were colour of the "charity" and had their branding all over them. Which isnt cheap

lukesmom · 13-12-2014 10:36AM

Littlekittylou wrote: »

Actually I know a very embarrassing story because of a charity I volunteer for not doing this. It's so weird when I look at them now.

I will take it to my grave though.;)

A volunteer visited people in need who happened to be a relative of theirs?

eisenberg1 · 13-12-2014 11:37AM

hfallada wrote: »

Because they were colour of the "charity" and had their branding all over them. Which isnt cheap

Vans, with logo on I would accept......but if they are cars, I would agree with you, a real waste of money, and I would not donate.

fasttalkerchat · 13-12-2014 11:54AM

hfallada wrote: »

SVP is the only charity that I would donate to. Or the capuchin day centre in Dublin city. They are transparent and actually help the most vulnerable in our society. Having visited the capuchin day centre in 4th year. The work they do is amazing. Without them, the homeless and less fortunate of Dublin city would literally starve.

I cant understand the peoples love of a certain dog charity. I visited their centre and the its was amazing. They had a load of nice company cars out front. I find it disturbing that there is dogs sleeping in an animal shelter better, than most of the homeless in Dublin city

SVP don't seem to do much to vet who they give to. Its better than nothing but they're not perfect either.

anewme · 13-12-2014 01:49PM

eisenberg1 wrote: »

Vans, with logo on I would accept......but if they are cars, I would agree with you, a real waste of money, and I would not donate.

Why have you an issue with cars having a logo on them for a dog charity. Not sure what your point is?

A Charity needs to be run as a business. To run a business they need vehicles and branding, either vans or cars or a mixture of both, not sure what the issue is personally.

To say you would not donate because there was a car outside with a logo is very small minded.

Also, if dogs are sleeping in good conditions in an animal shelter than some people, is that not testament how good the charity is?

eisenberg1 · 13-12-2014 02:21PM

anewme wrote: »

Why have you an issue with cars having a logo on them for a dog charity. Not sure what your point is?

A Charity needs to be run as a business. To run a business they need vehicles and branding, either vans or cars or a mixture of both, not sure what the issue is personally.

To say you would not donate because there was a car outside with a logo is very small minded.

Also, if dogs are sleeping in good conditions in an animal shelter than some people, is that not testament how good the charity is?

If you read all the posts, you would see I was responding to someone mentioning the charity being well kitted out and had a few company cars outside....I just asked how this person knew them to be company cars, and the response was that they had the logo on the vehicle. My take is that I don t think an animal shelter requires company cars, but obviously a van or two would be required. Why should I donate my money so someone can have a company car? That make me small minded?

And if you think I am anti animal shelter, forgive the pun, but you would be barking up the wrong tree.

anewme · 13-12-2014 02:36PM

eisenberg1 wrote: »

If you read all the posts, you would see I was responding to someone mentioning the charity being well kitted out and had a few company cars outside....I just asked how this person knew them to be company cars, and the response was that they had the logo on the vehicle. My take is that I don t think an animal shelter requires company cars, but obviously a van or two would be required. Why should I donate my money so someone can have a company car? That make me small minded?

And if you think I am anti animal shelter, forgive the pun, but you would be barking up the wrong tree.

Doggy pun forgiven!

could they perhaps be part of a mutual sponsorship agreement or partnership?

Skoda Ireland for example are official vehicle supplier to dogs Trust Ireland and work in partnership with them.

Perhaps the supply of branded vehicles are part of an arrangement such as this?

eisenberg1 · 13-12-2014 02:52PM

anewme wrote: »

Doggy pun forgiven!

could they perhaps be part of a mutual sponsorship agreement or partnership?

Skoda Ireland for example are official vehicle supplier to dogs Trust Ireland and work in partnership with them.

Perhaps the supply of branded vehicles are part of an arrangement such as this?

Ok, to be fair, all good points, and of course no charity will refuse a vehicle. But to clarify, I would be opposed to a charity BUYING a company car for staff.

skooterblue2 · 13-12-2014 03:09PM

What I cant stand is the Charities that sound like real ones:
We all know the Irish Cancer society, the Kidney Association and the Heart and Lung foundation. These are legitimate Charities.
I saw the same heads like a family Working together on different days for different organisations collecting for similar looking charities to the ones above.

anewme · 13-12-2014 03:32PM

eisenberg1 wrote: »

Ok, to be fair, all good points, and of course no charity will refuse a vehicle. But to clarify, I would be opposed to a charity BUYING a company car for staff.

My point is the person who posted the company cars comment said he knew they were company cars because there was a logo in them. He never checked his facts. He also mentioned an amazing facility and the branding being a certain colour. That would make people reach certain incorrect conclusions

Such throw away comments could could result in people not donating to what is in fact a legitimate charity doing fantastic work.

People should be careful about checking their facts before posting carelessly online

eisenberg1 · 13-12-2014 03:46PM

anewme wrote: »

My point is the person who posted the company cars comment said he knew they were company cars because there was a logo in them. He never checked his facts. He also mentioned an amazing facility and the branding being a certain colour. That would make people reach certain incorrect conclusions

Such throw away comments could could result in people not donating to what is in fact a legitimate charity doing fantastic work.

People should be careful about checking their facts before posting carelessly online

Ok, ok, I get it. Take it up Hfallada. I am tired, I was out late last and I am going for a nap.:D

Joe Doe · 13-12-2014 04:15PM

fryup wrote: »

they should contact mckay software....(the link bottom left)

Mc Kay software looks like it was hacked too, (unless they designed it that way on purpose) using a hard to get version of Netscape Navigator 4 from 1999 and someone from playschool.

The clothes bag collecting ones aren't so bad as at least they provide a useful service for removal of old/torn clothes for folks that can't make it to the local cashforclothes stores.

Worked for a charity once where the staff were often sent to 5* hotels for token UN jollies conferences. Maybe the best and most direct plan is probably a bag of x10 essential items inc some food/water and information leaflets for any folks on hard times, there is a few people and small orgs already doing this sort of thing.

Beats sending out hard-earned cash to the commercial TV advertised adopt/save a white tiger/dolphin type of thing...

Augmerson · 13-12-2014 04:43PM

Joe Doe wrote: »

The clothes bag collecting ones aren't so bad as at least they provide a useful service for removal of old/torn clothes for folks that can't make it to the local cashforclothes stores.

Didn't someone get shot in Dublin over a turf war involving clothes donations? The clothes are sold in eastern Europe.

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