Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

Whatsisname wrote: »

Anyone judging players after Southampton are silly tbh. I honestly think it was purely down to the system.

Oh come on, don't be making excuses for what were some disgraceful performances. The bloody system wasn't causing Felliani to pass the ball directly to Southampton players or making Mata do sweet fuck all the entire time he was on the field.

Its far too easy to blame systems or credit philosophies but football is still a simple game in many ways. The people most to blame for the Southampton performance were the headless chickens on the field.

Just on the system, I do think it's partly an issue, but more so due to the players currently in it. Take our wing backs at the minute. Their job is to both create and defend. We have Valencia on the right who, while somewhat solid defensively, creates very very little. Then on the other side we have Young, who is better attacking wise (though a bit predictable and just as prone to awful crossing) but weaker at defending.

Essentially we have 2 guys playing in a position that they can only 'do a job' in. So in that sense the system doesn't work because the current players don't suit it.

That said, I'm not a fan at all of three at the back. Just a different take on the whole 'the system doesn't work' idea.

bucketybuck wrote: »

Oh come on, don't be making excuses for what were some disgraceful performances. The bloody system wasn't causing Felliani to pass the ball directly to Southampton players or making Mata do sweet fuck all the entire time he was on the field.

Its far too easy to blame systems or credit philosophies but football is still a simple game in many ways. The people most to blame for the Southampton performance were the headless chickens on the field.

Yeah there were some shocking performances, from basically everyone bar Van Persie and De Gea. The system makes them uncomfortable in their roles, causing the mistakes, imo ofcourse. Along with the pressing Southampton's midfield did on ours, which like you said, was Fellaini and Mata, a truly awful partnership. Mata's not even close to ever being a CM.
When does he do much though? Really love the guy but patience is kinda growing thin. He really looks a shadow of the player he was at Chelsea. Sadly enough.

Fellaini is a good standard premier league midfielder in general, for a top 4 team he is an adequate option to have

Nuts102 wrote: »

Fellaini great for a few games not a word, he has a bad game and the usual suspects are out with the usual he is crap.

He has done more than any of out other midfielders this season.

I don't think anybody would say otherwise, and I'm happy that he has stepped up as a viable option. Hopefully he continues to play well.

But being the best of a bad bunch still doesn't make him a great midfielder. A United midfield of Carrick and Felliani is not good enough, hopefully we can continue to get quality in to the point where Felliani becomes a good squad option but we aren't relying on him to win us the big, big games.

Dear God please be true ..

Will Di Maria be fir for Sunday?

xtal191 wrote: »

Will Di Maria be fir for Sunday?

Nope, rumour going around that he'll be beech.