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Why is the broadcasting charge postponed ?

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  • #92
    TireeTerror
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    Why should I pay for a tv licence when I have Sky TV from the UK. I cannot receive RTE, and I assure you watching any Irish channels is the last thing on my mind.

    I will not be paying it regardless of whatever measures they take. They have the technology to encrypt the channel for those without a licence, but rather than embrace new technology and let those that want it pay for it, they try and force people to pay up. This is criminal in my opinion, it is quite simply theft.


  • #93
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    TireeTerror wrote: »
    Why should I pay for a tv licence when I have Sky TV from the UK. I cannot receive RTE, and I assure you watching any Irish channels is the last thing on my mind.

    I will not be paying it regardless of whatever measures they take. They have the technology to encrypt the channel for those without a licence, but rather than embrace new technology and let those that want it pay for it, they try and force people to pay up. This is criminal in my opinion, it is quite simply theft.

    Maybe to support some jobs in Ireland. I know the next argument over paid presenters. Though you'd wonder what non-Free to air TV channel you need if you are paying sky. And you can receive Irish TV.


  • #94
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,494 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    TireeTerror wrote: »
    Why should I pay for a tv licence when I have Sky TV from the UK. I cannot receive RTE, and I assure you watching any Irish channels is the last thing on my mind.

    I will not be paying it regardless of whatever measures they take. They have the technology to encrypt the channel for those without a licence, but rather than embrace new technology and let those that want it pay for it, they try and force people to pay up. This is criminal in my opinion, it is quite simply theft.

    Because it is the law. Do you pay a UK licence?

    You also pay for other aspects of Irish life whether you use them or not.


  • #95
    steveon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭steveon


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    Because it is the law. Do you pay a UK licence?

    You also pay for other aspects of Irish life whether you use them or not.

    It shouldn't be the Law, RTE should survive on its advertising alone, collecting a fee from people to overpay its staff and to repeat programs from BBC and ch4 constantly and the rest of the time all rubbish about cooking or hotels...

    There are many foreign people now living here who has absolutely no interest in RTE and shouldnt be forced to pay for it just because its a law...that is forced onto people.

    In America there is no tv license fee and thousands of tv channels exist for free....


  • #96
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    steveon wrote: »
    It shouldn't be the Law, RTE should survive on its advertising alone, collecting a fee from people to overpay its staff and to repeat programs from BBC and ch4 constantly and the rest of the time all rubbish about cooking or hotels...

    There are many foreign people now living here who has absolutely no interest in RTE and shouldnt be forced to pay for it just because its a law...that is forced onto people.

    In America there is no tv license fee and thousands of tv channels exist for free....

    I agree there are many foreign people living in Ireland and they should be provided with some service on RTÉ on the national services. And dont get us wrong there are many problems with RTÉ. Though comparing RTÉ, TV3 or TG4 to US channels is just daft.


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  • #97
    Thurston?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    TireeTerror wrote: »
    Why should I pay for a tv licence when I have Sky TV from the UK.

    Why did you go to the trouble of getting a UK Sky sub. to use in Ireland?


  • #98
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,513 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    there is a seperate thread for the licence fee generally


  • #99
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,991 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    TireeTerror wrote: »
    Why should I pay for a tv licence when I have Sky TV from the UK.

    And do you pay the UK tv licence like those in the UK do? Of course not.


  • #100
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,494 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    steveon wrote: »
    It shouldn't be the Law.

    In America there is no tv license fee and thousands of tv channels exist for free....

    If you do not like the law, you must lobby your public representatives and get them to change it. Good luck with that.

    In America you can go down to the local Wal-Mart and buy a gun and ammunition. Try that here.

    By the way, have you watched any American TV in America?


  • #101
    makeorbrake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭makeorbrake


    Elmo wrote: »
    Maybe to support some jobs in Ireland.
    What like the old 'guaranteed irish' campaign? It's an absolute fallacy. It only serves to promote inefficiency.


    Any fool can spend public money. Go spend it on something where we get full value for that expenditure - and then, support irish jobs!


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  • #102
    TheQuietFella
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    If RTE went under in the morning who would really miss it?

    Another quango, jobs for the boys!


  • #103
    endakenny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭endakenny


    TireeTerror wrote: »
    Why should I pay for a tv licence when I have Sky TV from the UK.
    Because UK viewers have to pay a licence fee, which funds the BBC.
    TireeTerror wrote: »
    I cannot receive RTE.
    You can get Saorview or Saorview if you want to.


  • #104
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,991 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    TheQuietFella wrote: »
    If RTE went under in the morning who would really miss it?

    Another quango, jobs for the boys!

    The majority of the country who watch it I would guess.


  • #105
    TheQuietFella
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    lertsnim wrote: »
    The majority of the country who watch it I would guess.

    I would suggest the use of the word minority!


  • #106
    makeorbrake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭makeorbrake


    endakenny wrote: »
    Because UK viewers have to pay a licence fee, which funds the BBC.

    You can get Saorview or Saorview if you want to.
    The key is in the last 4 words...
    lertsnim wrote:
    The majority of the country who watch it I would guess.
    I'd wager that you are correct - it would be the majority. However, don't make the rest of us pay for something we simply don't see the value in.

    If RTE firmly believed in and had confidence that everyone perceived value in what they offer, then dvb-t could have been encrypted - with the unencryption charge being €160/year. That platform could then be used by others - at a fee - to provide bolt-on pay tv offerings. Furthermore, that would negate any need for tv license inspectors knocking on doors.


    Everything has to stand on its own merits.


  • #107
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,494 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    TheQuietFella wrote: »
    I would suggest the use of the word minority!

    Not so.

    Over 1 million saw Nidge get wacked. Over 24% of all TV watched in Ireland is RTE 1. Most of the top 10 TV shows watched in Ireland are on RTE 1.

    A lot of viewers in the UK would love to get RTE on their local TV.

    We are fortunate in that we can freely get UK TV through Freesat at no cost to us. Some near the border or Wales get it on Freeview from an aerial. Happy days. Why would you begrudge €160 a year for that? You can pay Sky that a month.


  • #108
    makeorbrake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭makeorbrake


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    Why would you begrudge €160 a year for that? You can pay Sky that a month.

    That's your opinion - I don't share it. And by the way, I don't see value in sky's offering either....but at least with that, there's a choice.


  • #109
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,991 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    TheQuietFella wrote: »
    I would suggest the use of the word minority!

    How many people watched Love/Hate, the Late Late Show, the news, GAA, soccer, rugby? To suggest that only a minority watch RTE is ridiculous.


  • #110
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Largely speaking we have people not wanting to pay the TV licence/Broadcasting Charge not coming up with suggestions to replace it other than let them go commerical. You'd see most sports go to pay TV services charging far more than 13.33 per month for so called choice. You'd wonder how many times you can repeat an episode of Friends or The Big Bang Theory and get people thinking that that is choice.


  • #111
    TheQuietFella
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    lertsnim wrote: »
    How many people watched Love/Hate, the Late Late Show, the news, GAA, soccer, rugby? To suggest that only a minority watch RTE is ridiculous.

    If RTE was a PPV as suggested earlier in the thread do you think there would be a large subscription to it?

    I personally don't watch a lot of TV anyway, maybe a little sport & docu' but they are always available on other channels.


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  • #112
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,513 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    If there is any further discussion of the licence fee the rule regarding stickies will apply and this thread will be merged into it


  • #113
    TireeTerror
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    Thurston? wrote: »
    Why did you go to the trouble of getting a UK Sky sub. to use in Ireland?

    Sky sub? I use card sharing, but its not a topic that is permitted to be discussed in detail on boards.

    As for those stating "Its the law!", well that is exactly the sheep like mentality that will have you paying water charges and for a broadcasting licence. While sheep whinge a bit, but ultimately bend over and take it, there will always be Governments and corporations who will exploit you.

    Me not paying will not make a jot of difference, I would take prison time over a tv licence, but they would first of all have to catch me, prove it and even then I would still not pay a licence fee. I would tell the judge that too. People have a huge amount of power, they just dont have the balls or gumption to do much more than wave a few placards and shout "outrage!"

    Let anarchy prevail.


  • #114
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,513 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    TireeTerror take a 48 hour ban for advocating breaking the law. This isn't a politics forum - while the politics of the broadcasting charge are allowed to be discussed, the second you move into wider political issues you are moving off topic. And calling on people to commit crimes is completely out of order


  • #115
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,991 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    TireeTerror wrote: »
    Sky sub? I use card sharing, but its not a topic that is permitted to be discussed in detail on boards.

    As for those stating "Its the law!", well that is exactly the sheep like mentality that will have you paying water charges and for a broadcasting licence. While sheep whinge a bit, but ultimately bend over and take it, there will always be Governments and corporations who will exploit you.

    Me not paying will not make a jot of difference, I would take prison time over a tv licence, but they would first of all have to catch me, prove it and even then I would still not pay a licence fee. I would tell the judge that too. People have a huge amount of power, they just dont have the balls or gumption to do much more than wave a few placards and shout "outrage!"

    Let anarchy prevail.

    Fight the power!!!!

    Back to reality......

    The people that say no tv license means prison time have no understanding of how the legal system works.

    You go to jail only if you purposely disobey the orders from a judge, for example not paying a fine.


  • #116
    sky1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ✭sky1234


    I don't own a TV so it's completely unfair


  • #117
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    sky1234 wrote: »
    I don't own a TV so it's completely unfair

    And I don't own a Radio, never seen the NSO, don't go to measuems, haven't been to the burren, rarely watch Irish Cinema etc etc.


  • #118
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,494 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Elmo wrote: »
    And I don't own a Radio, never seen the NSO, don't go to measuems, haven't been to the burren, rarely watch Irish Cinema etc etc.

    You should get out more! :)


  • #119
    sky1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ✭sky1234


    Elmo wrote:
    And I don't own a Radio, never seen the NSO, don't go to measuems, haven't been to the burren, rarely watch Irish Cinema etc etc.


    I have been to the Burren. Out of that list that is all. I get out plenty. .. Maybe that is why!


  • #120
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    sky1234 wrote: »
    I have been to the Burren. Out of that list that is all. I get out plenty. .. Maybe that is why!

    The simple things.

    The list is not infinite but we pay plenty in tax for things we may never use and that many find pointless.


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  • #121
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,513 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Looks like it's been abandoned now officially, at least by the present Government:

    http://m.rte.ie/news/2014/1211/666126-tv-licence/


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