Anti-Irish Sentiment

Don Kedick · 10-12-2014 06:49PM

The Germans are still pretending that nazism died with Hitler, we all know the truth.

Fratton Fred · 10-12-2014 07:53PM

Chris___ wrote: »

I think most people would agree that it was Irish tax payer that saved Germany. If I go in to Paddy Power place a bet of €100 on Ireland to beat the Renford Rejects and Ireland lose 10-nil. I don't scream at the counter looking for my money back.

No, but if Ireland borrowed ten million from you to buy a new team in the condition they would pay it back when they won the champions league, but spent it on crap players, coke and hookers, you'd still expect your money back regardless.

Galwayguy35 · 10-12-2014 08:09PM

Probably the worst Anti Irish sentiment is in certain places on the other side of the border.

In my previous job a truck driver from the north called me a fenian bastard straight to my face.

crockholm · 10-12-2014 08:56PM

Had a few instances of anti-Irish sentiment here in Sweden-the funniest one being one time I was sitting in a pub and there was one other customer,a Londoner, after a while his friend came in,a Swedish woman. At one Point she mentioned that there was Another pub nearby,but she didn' like it because "it is full of Irish,and they try to screw anything that moves"

I continued to drink my pint as normal-I don't feel the need to be universally liked,so if somebody has a bad opinion of Irish people I don't see why I can't just let it be-small potato's in the big scheme of things.

I Think maybe her pal gave a bit of a nudge or a wink,because after came an addendum of "which is OK,because they work so long and hard" a few seconds later.A dreadful capitulation IMO.

Peter Anthony · 10-12-2014 09:35PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Probably the worst Anti Irish sentiment is in certain places on the other side of the border.

In my previous job a truck driver from the north called me a fenian bastard straight to my face.

The only real anti Irish vitroil around is in the North and in Scotland.

Jawgap · 10-12-2014 09:53PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

No, but if Ireland borrowed ten million from you to buy a new team in the condition they would pay it back when they won the champions league, but spent it on crap players, coke and hookers, you'd still expect your money back regardless.

Let's not pretend ze Germans didn't know what was going on here and weren't happy to invest - except they forgot the whole "interest rates may go up or down" part of any investment and then went crying to a Mammy Merkel when it all went t1ts up and realised that weren't joking when we said the game was 'keepies' not 'lendies.'

The annoying part of their preachiness is that they forgot about the handouts they received via the Marshall Plan which they didn't have to pay pack and the impact reunification had on the EU.

I also like it when other countries get a bit preachy about bailouts as if they neeeeeever had to go cap in hand to the IMF for what was at the time a historically record breaking dig out

whupdedo · 10-12-2014 10:33PM

5 pages in and the word banter has been used 5 times, I fcukin hate the word banter

7 times if you include this post

Don Kedick · 10-12-2014 10:38PM

If anyone uses that word again I'll banter their bleedin head in!

TheBeardedLady · 10-12-2014 10:45PM

GalwayGuitar wrote: »

We're definitely not loved everywhere, especially in Spain with all the drunken Irish coming over for holidays. Our reputation there is little better than the Brits.

I haven't had one negative experience after telling someone I'm Irish in the 5 years 3 months I've been here. I'm either met with indifference or enthusiasm (mostly indifference). I'd say all in all, the Spanish have a positive impression of Ireland, particularly the ones that have been.

pauliebdub wrote: »

I find completely the opposite, that people abroad, particularly in Spain warm to me more when they realise im not British.

Yep.

pragmatic1 · 10-12-2014 11:05PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Probably the worst Anti Irish sentiment is in certain places on the other side of the border.

In my previous job a truck driver from the north called me a fenian bastard straight to my face.

Yep. Some really bitter folk up there. It would put hate in your heart.

Electric Sheep · 10-12-2014 11:12PM

Nobody cares if you are Irish. Nobody loves the Irish just because they are Irish. Only the Irish are obsessed with this.

Jawgap · 10-12-2014 11:13PM

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Nobody cares if you are Irish. Nobody loves the Irish just because they are Irish. Only the Irish are obsessed with this.

Not Irish, I'm guessing.......:D:D:D

Mr_Muffin · 10-12-2014 11:13PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Probably the worst Anti Irish sentiment is in certain places on the other side of the border.

In my previous job a truck driver from the north called me a fenian bastard straight to my face.

One of the most depressing countries in Europe for sure if not the world. So full of hate and anger.

Aongus Von Bismarck · 10-12-2014 11:20PM

I live in Germany. While there might be some jocular banter about national stereotypes when out socialising with colleagues; I've never encountered a single incident where I felt that their was a genuine anti-Irish sentiment involved. It's mainly affection to be honest. They like us. The Germans are inherently decent people. Very clued in to current affairs. The water protests there today made the news on some of the papers, and I'm sure more than one eye was raised ironically to the usual 'burn the bondholders' rhetoric that was carted out again today.

The major European economies bailed out Ireland because the banks there went insane handing out mortgages to people who really shouldn't have been getting them. Fritz knows the score, and remains fairly prosaic about the whole thing. Long term stability was always the goal of a post-Soviet Germany. Having Ireland undermining the euro wasn't going to happen. Ireland got lots of money to keep things stable. They will have to pay it back. Fairness is another trait of the German.

donegaLroad · 10-12-2014 11:38PM

I mentioned this before one time on a similar thread..

I was on the receiving end of anti-Irish sentiment one time in Toronto, the group of individuals were 1st and 2nd generation Scottish.. Rangers supporters etc.

Letree · 10-12-2014 11:39PM

Peter Anthony wrote: »

The only real anti Irish vitroil around is in the North and in Scotland.

Of all the places on earth we are the most ethnically similar to the people of Scotland and the Northern Ireland. Its funny that its there we are disliked so much.

Letree · 10-12-2014 11:40PM

Peter Anthony wrote: »

The only real anti Irish vitroil around is in the North and in Scotland.

Of all the places on earth we are the most ethnically similar to the people of Scotland and Northern Ireland. Its funny that its there we are disliked so much.

Grandeeod · 10-12-2014 11:52PM

GalwayGuitar wrote: »

We're definitely not loved everywhere, especially in Spain with all the drunken Irish coming over for holidays. Our reputation there is little better than the Brits.

The Spanish can't tell the difference in accents. Once you speak English, they assume you're a Brit. If they know you're Irish, they have a very different attitude. That said, the English visitors (in particular) visiting Spain do look for it by attempting to slam their empirical attitudes down the throat of every local they meet. The really scummy Irish just let themselves down by being general arseholes.

I once farted in a Spanish taxi. I was met by a comment along the lines of, "you English are all the same". I apologised, said I was Irish and he apologised and rolled down the window. Now that I live here, the only anti-Irish sentiment I experience is from a small group of uneducated English expat/tourist twats that won't go to Ireland in case they are blown up. But as an English friend of mine explained, Spain is probably the only place outside of the UK, they've ever been. For Empire builders, some still have very small minds.

Grandeeod · 10-12-2014 11:57PM

Letree wrote: »

Of all the places on earth we are the most ethnically similar to the people of Scotland and Northern Ireland. Its funny that its there we are disliked so much.

Religious bigotry. Meaningless to us, but hugely important to the small minded minority that live by that code. I recently had two Scots doing some work in my house. A Rangers man and Celtic man. Best of buddies. Take them out of Glasgow and put them in a foreign land and they are united in the cause of earning a few quid.

FTA69 · 11-12-2014 12:08AM

Grandeeod wrote: »

The Spanish can't tell the difference in accents. Once you speak English, they assume you're a Brit. If they know you're Irish, they have a very different attitude. That said, the English visitors (in particular) visiting Spain do look for it by attempting to slam their empirical attitudes down the throat of every local they meet. The really scummy Irish just let themselves down by being general arseholes.

I once farted in a Spanish taxi. I was met by a comment along the lines of, "you English are all the same". I apologised, said I was Irish and he apologised and rolled down the window. Now that I live here, the only anti-Irish sentiment I experience is from a small group of uneducated English expat/tourist twats that won't go to Ireland in case they are blown up. But as an English friend of mine explained, Spain is probably the only place outside of the UK, they've ever been. For Empire builders, some still have very small minds.

The Spanish are worse than the Brits for being nationalistically small minded and having an imperial mindset. Years of fascist dictatorship has inculcated a "one Spain" mentality amongst some that would make most Little Englanders blush; most of the time this concerns the Basque or Catalonian secessions. The amount of times I've seen seemingly tolerant people turn into raving and sneering loopers when Basque independence is brought up is shocking.

Don Kedick · 11-12-2014 12:11AM

Grandeeod wrote: »

Religious bigotry. Meaningless to us, but hugely important to the small minded minority that live by that code. I recently had two Scots doing some work in my house. A Rangers man and Celtic man. Best of buddies. Take them out of Glasgow and put them in a foreign land and they are united in the cause of earning a few quid.

It's not religious bigotry, you really think the very small difference in beliefs between catholics and protestants cause the issues?

Aongus Von Bismarck · 11-12-2014 12:11AM

FTA69 wrote: »

The Spanish are worse than the Brits for being nationalistically small minded and having an imperial mindset. Years of fascist dictatorship has inculcated a "one Spain" mentality amongst some that would make most Little Englanders blush; most of the time this concerns the Basque or Catalonian secessions. The amount of times I've seen seemingly tolerant people turn into raving and sneering loopers when Basque independence is brought up is shocking.

The only valid form of Nationalism is the Irish form. It emerged out of honour, sacrifice and death.

Jawgap · 11-12-2014 12:13AM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

The only valid form of Nationalism is the Irish form. It emerged out of honour, sacrifice and death.

I'll think you'll find it emerged from the Gaelic revival movement, and the Land League.

steddyeddy · 11-12-2014 12:14AM

conorh91 wrote: »

I'm really skeptical about these stories.

I'm not saying you or your brother are deliberately making it up, but maybe it wasn't intended the way you're taking it. Most Germans I know don't preoccupy themselves with this issue, in fact I would say it is a non-issue in how they go about their lives.

Whereas, Irish people tend to be very sensitive and preoccupied with it, probably understandably so.

I think the biggest casualty of the Irish recession has been national confidence, and with that perhaps, came a victim complex.

Even asking the question 'does everyone hate us?' betrays an almost neurotic and obsessive approach to our own self image.

I work with a few Germans and they are most certainly preoccupied with this issue.

Don Kedick · 11-12-2014 12:16AM

Jawgap wrote: »

I'll think you'll find it emerged from the Gaelic revival movement, and the Land League.

The United Irishmen? The Fenians?

FTA69 · 11-12-2014 12:16AM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

The only valid form of Nationalism is the Irish form. It emerged out of honour, sacrifice and death.

Absolutely kid.

Idbatterim · 11-12-2014 12:26AM

What morons. Interest rates were ridiculously low to help the German economy which was struggling at the time, it only fanned the flames here. They then "bail" us out, so that we can repay them the money that they were originally owed that was now at risk, and on top of that they are making more money on the additional money they lent us to bail themselves out!

Grandeeod · 11-12-2014 12:26AM

Don Kedick wrote: »

It's not religious bigotry, you really think the very small difference in beliefs between catholics and protestants cause the issues?

Well you tell me then.

Don Kedick · 11-12-2014 12:34AM

Grandeeod wrote: »

Well you tell me then.

Divide and conquer. In Scotland it would be similar to someone complaining about the Polish in Ireland except on a much wider level and deeply ingrained.

Grandeeod · 11-12-2014 12:44AM

FTA69 wrote: »

The Spanish are worse than the Brits for being nationalistically small minded and having an imperial mindset. Years of fascist dictatorship has inculcated a "one Spain" mentality amongst some that would make most Little Englanders blush; most of the time this concerns the Basque or Catalonian secessions. The amount of times I've seen seemingly tolerant people turn into raving and sneering loopers when Basque independence is brought up is shocking.

In the context of the thread topic I stand over my points. In terms of the Spanish being worse that the Brits for being nationalistically small minded and having an imperial mindset.....I don't agree. You mention Basque/Catalonian issues as if to justify a one Spain mentality, but I do not get that from Spanish people I know.

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