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Do you wear visibility gear when running in the dark?

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  • #62
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    walshb wrote: »
    Okey doke. I have yet to witness folks wearing high viz in situations that were ridiculous or unnecessary. You obviously have?

    Broad daylight, group of school kids in an indoor museum, wearing it. Why? Makes them easier to spot by the carers? All well and good until another group comes along with the same idea, then another. Its easier to keep an eye on the kids in the group wearing regular clothing.

    People sitting outside a shop collecting for something or another. Just as well they have the high vis on, would have fell right over them, their table and chair otherwise.


  • #63
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Broad daylight, group of school kids in an indoor museum, wearing it. Why? Makes them easier to spot by the carers? All well and good until another group comes along with the same idea, then another. Its easier to keep an eye on the kids in the group wearing regular clothing.

    That sounds a bit unnecessary alright. Different thread for that. Love to hear the reasoning for it. I'm sure they have reasons.


  • #64
    kirving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭kirving


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Broad daylight, group of school kids in an indoor museum, wearing it. Why? Makes them easier to spot by the carers? All well and good until another group comes along with the same idea, then another. Its easier to keep an eye on the kids in the group wearing regular clothing.

    Well at the very least, and lost kids will be in one of two groups, not off on a wander by themselves.


  • #65
    opus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭opus


    Have one of those flashing led armband thingies that they give out at the Run in the Dark & my head torch has a flashing led on the back as well. There a very badly lit narrow road on one of my routes that I wouldn't fancy without something to alert cars to my presence especially if it's lashing rain or foggy.


  • #66
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    And the argument that wearing high vis can lead to a false sense of security is not a fallacy, it's prevalent amongst certain sections of cyclists who think that the wearing of it makes up for the lack of adequate lighting on their bikes.

    Their bikes should be lit up when out at night.


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  • #67
    ThisRegard
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    walshb wrote: »
    Their bikes should be lit up when out at night.

    That's what their false sense of security is.


  • #68
    uvox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 975 ✭✭✭uvox


    Use a couple of flashing armbands from the Run In the Dark folks, plus a fluorescent beanie and pink reflective bands (Breast Cancer awareness ones) on the wrists and ankles. Works for me.


  • #69
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    That what their false sense of security is.

    They're stupid to think that.

    Regarding the museum kids. I'd imagine the reasons for high vis there are slightly different than for people wearing high vis at night when running.


  • #70
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I know, but you did ask though about where I've seen it to the point of ridiculousness.


  • #71
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I know, but you did ask though about where I've seen it to the point of ridiculousness.

    I have no issue with that. I was wondering what reasons there would be for schoolchildren to be wearing high vis clothing indoors at a museum. Guess I am not ready to say that it's ridiculous until I hear the reasons, if there are any.


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  • #72
    ThisRegard
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    Way off topic but to try identify them as a group.


  • #73
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Way off topic but to try identify them as a group.

    It is off topic. So, that's there reason or so it seems. I wouldn't go so far as to call it ridiculous. If it makes the job of a teacher or carer easier and more reliable then maybe its not a bad thing.


  • #74
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    But that's the thing, you eventually reach a point of over saturation that those without them stand out more.


  • #75
    shergar22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 139 ✭✭shergar22


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    But that's the thing, you eventually reach a point of over saturation that those without them stand out more.

    Don't feed the Trolls!


  • #76
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    shergar22 wrote: »
    Don't feed the Trolls!

    Ok, you can't debate or engage with me like an adult, sure throw around insults if it makes you feel better.


  • #77
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,656 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Ok, you can't debate or engage with me like an adult, sure throw around insults if it makes you feel better.

    I think the poster was implying that others are trolls, and for you not to feed them. The post serves no purpose at all. I have enjoyed the civil and polite debate with yourself.


  • #78
    ultrapercy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    I wish this thread would go for a run on unlit country roads without wearing hi vis clothing, a busy road with lots of lorries and bad bends.


  • #79
    ThisRegard
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    You're being forced to partake ?


  • #80
    pistol_75
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭pistol_75


    shergar22 wrote: »
    Don't feed the Trolls!

    Which one??


  • #81
    pconn062
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    Guys stop the stupid sniping at each other, this has gotten rather silly.


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  • #82
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    This has been a demonstration of some of the issues people have with this forum, and why they dropped like flies from it.

    People with no interest in the topic, or have a different opinion (and I'm not including walshb on this, while we my disagree on things, he at least will debate with you) will come along, call people trolls, high 5 each other, and try derail with stupid comments about trucks or something.


  • #83
    pconn062
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    shergar22 wrote: »
    Don't feed the Trolls!

    Also, please don't accuse people of being trolls, again, it's pointless.


  • #84
    pconn062
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    This has been a demonstration of some of the issues people have with this forum, and why they dropped like flies from it.

    People with no interest in the topic, or have a different opinion (and I'm not including walshb on this, while we my disagree on things, he at least will debate with you) will come along, call people trolls, high 5 each other, and try derail with stupid comments about trucks or something.

    Lets not make a bigger deal of it than it is, it has been dealt with. Moving swiftly back to the topic at hand (should that moving involve his-vis is the question??! :)).


  • #85
    uberalex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭uberalex


    Does anyone have any darkness-running tips? I find it much harder. I am usually a morning runner, but after dawn. I often seem to be less sure of my footing, and more likely to get lost in darkness. I'd also appreciate advice on affordable equipment for suburban/urban environments. Would a battery-powered LED light be useful?


  • #86
    rainbow kirby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    ^ Headtorch?


  • #87
    granturismo
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    uberalex wrote: »
    .. Would a battery-powered LED light be useful?

    I use one of these but not for running, powerful light but expensive:
    http://www.ledlenser-store.co.uk/head-torches-c71/led-lenser-h5-led-head-torch-p954

    I also have a €5 headtorch from Aldi and its only useful for reading a book at night without having to turn a light on.


  • #88
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    uberalex wrote: »
    Does anyone have any darkness-running tips? I find it much harder. I am usually a morning runner, but after dawn. I often seem to be less sure of my footing, and more likely to get lost in darkness. I'd also appreciate advice on affordable equipment for suburban/urban environments. Would a battery-powered LED light be useful?

    This is something that you notice when running laps of a 24 hour trail course through woodland. During the night everyone quite happily runs around not tripping over any tree roots, come daylight and people start tripping and bumping into things. Think it comes down to you don't concentrate as much on where each foot goes in daylight as you assume that the ground is where it should be, when it's dark you are never quite sure so you run more cautiously.


  • #89
    The Muppet
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    I do all my running on Footpaths/cycle tracks , I just wouldn't venture onto a road. I do wear a hi viz clothes and sometimes a flashing armband .


  • #90
    HelenAnne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭HelenAnne


    Slightly off topic, but connected -- I am always surprised how many black running tops (t-shirts / long sleeves / jackest etc) are for sale in Irish sports shops. And races and the Irish Times running series have given out black t-shirts too. I never wear black tops -- too hot in summer, too invisible in winter.

    As a connected tangent from the hi-viz discussion, does anyone else think black running tops are pointless? :)


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  • #91
    RayCun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    But everyone knows black is cool!

    (there is a guy in our club who only ever wears black)


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