Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

The_Kew_Tour · 10-12-2014 01:54PM

Trilla wrote: »

Wes Brown syndrome?

I had lot of confidence in Wes Brown personally.

and the song....:pac:

bangkok · 10-12-2014 01:56PM

Trilla wrote: »

whats the ETA for Jones

shin splints so hard to know, could be 2 weeks or up to 3 months from the time they started

Spazdarn · 10-12-2014 01:58PM

I know LVG doesn't think he needs any more players but he really should bring in about 4 of 5 defenders and let them battle it out.

Literally, a battle of the fittest!

10-12-2014 02:11PM

Evans has always had to live in Rio and Vidic's shadow with regards leadership. I think he can do well with more responsibility on that regard. He just needs a run in the team. I hope he gets it now with Rojo but it's imperative they get the 2 full backs on the field post haste imo for any partnership to work.

Mantis Toboggan · 10-12-2014 02:20PM

I thought Rojo was very poor the other night and I haven't been that impressed with him since he came in, I don't think he's a long term solution.

bucketybuck · 10-12-2014 02:22PM

Trilla wrote: »

whats the ETA for Jones

For the return or for the next injury?

Maximus Alexander · 10-12-2014 02:26PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

For the return or for the next injury?

That's the same date.

keane2097 · 10-12-2014 02:28PM

Jones, Evans, Smalling and Rafael are constantly somewhere on the timeline of out injured, getting taken off because of injury or recovering from injury. Never at full tilt for more than a couple of weeks, it's very damaging to a defensive set up to be trying to bed these guys in and out, changing the set-up to suit who is available etc.

United would be better off with worse players who were fit 80% of the time.

Nalz · 10-12-2014 02:38PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

For the return or for the next injury?

wahey!

kryogen · 10-12-2014 02:49PM

Liam O wrote: »

Evans has always had to live in Rio and Vidic's shadow with regards leadership. I think he can do well with more responsibility on that regard. He just needs a run in the team. I hope he gets it now with Rojo but it's imperative they get the 2 full backs on the field post haste imo for any partnership to work.

I expected him to show it at the start of the season but he failed spectacularly in it, thought he would step up but he didn't. Maybe he needs time to grow into the role but it didn't get off to the best start anyway, the extra responsibility looked like it weighed too heavy on him.

Spazdarn · 10-12-2014 02:52PM

Evans doesn't seem to have the leadership qualities I'd have hoped he'd build upon considering his seniority. Smalling is too timid, not hard enough in the tackle, and is perma broken. Jones is brave but dumb at times, and again he's also broken. Rafael going forward is brilliant but defensively he's a red card waiting to happen.

Looking at Chelsea's defence in comparison makes me sad.

bucketybuck · 10-12-2014 02:57PM

Spazdarn wrote: »

Looking at Chelsea's defence in comparison makes me sad.

Chelsea will face this issue soon enough, Terry will need to be replaced very soon and Cahill is no world beater. It will be interesting who Mourinho will consider as good enough to step into Terry's shoes.

bangkok · 10-12-2014 03:25PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Chelsea will face this issue soon enough, Terry will need to be replaced very soon and Cahill is no world beater. It will be interesting who Mourinho will consider as good enough to step into Terry's shoes.

would love cahill at united, one of the best defenders in the league

Cantona's Collars · 10-12-2014 03:29PM

Will a book be written if Liverpool beat us on Sunday?

Donnielighto · 10-12-2014 03:38PM

Spazdarn wrote: »

Evans doesn't seem to have the leadership qualities I'd have hoped he'd build upon considering his seniority. Smalling is too timid, not hard enough in the tackle, and is perma broken. Jones is brave but dumb at times, and again he's also broken. Rafael going forward is brilliant but defensively he's a red card waiting to happen.

Looking at Chelsea's defence in comparison makes me sad.

How many reds has Rafael in the last 4 seasons?

Chelsea have no depth in defense, any injuries and they are in trouble.

kryogen · 10-12-2014 03:41PM

Spazdarn wrote: »

Evans doesn't seem to have the leadership qualities I'd have hoped he'd build upon considering his seniority. Smalling is too timid, not hard enough in the tackle, and is perma broken. Jones is brave but dumb at times, and again he's also broken. Rafael going forward is brilliant but defensively he's a red card waiting to happen.

Looking at Chelsea's defence in comparison makes me sad.

Is it wrong that when I read someone state this as their opinion it completely devalues any point they are trying to make?

A red card waiting to happen, who hasn't been sent off since the 2012/13 seasn and in his entire 7 seasons at the club has been sent off twice in the league and once in the Champions League is my kind of red card waiting to happen.

The Moldy Gowl · 10-12-2014 03:42PM

I have a horrible feeling they will win. Everything seems so perfectly set up for it. UTD fans back to boasting, 5 win streak, back in 3rd,

You just know Liverpool will win and everything will turn on its head and be back to utd are rubbish innit?

The Moldy Gowl · 10-12-2014 03:43PM

haha kry and myself posting again at the exact same time,Such a clone account.

Backstreet Moyes · 10-12-2014 03:56PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I have a horrible feeling they will win. Everything seems so perfectly set up for it. UTD fans back to boasting, 5 win streak, back in 3rd,

You just know Liverpool will win and everything will turn on its head and be back to utd are rubbish innit?

Absolutely nothing is set up for a Liverpool win i will be surprised if United don't win with our home form.

Cantona's Collars · 10-12-2014 04:23PM

Nuts102 wrote: »

Absolutely nothing is set up for a Liverpool win i will be surprised if United don't win with our home form.

Form goes out the window when they play us,it'll be like a cup final for Liverpool on Sunday.

paulbok · 10-12-2014 04:33PM

Liam O wrote: »

I'd honestly rank it right back, right winger first and then CM and CB at the same a bit below. I reckon if Evans can get a run of games now beside Rojo and Jones or Smalling aren't out for too long CB will cease to be too much of an issue. A Coleman or Clyne, a top right winger or Nani back, Strootman and a CB only if Evans, Smalling and Jones continue their current injury status and the squad is looking very good.

Left back is only a problem due to it being the 4th choice left back in there atm. With a fully fit group you'd have Shaw, Blind and Rojo in there before Young. With Blind and Shaw getting injured at the same time it was unfortunate. Rojo is better served inside now due to the CB injuries but I'm hoping for a better return on games from Jones and Evans at least in the 2nd half of the season.

If any of them stayed fit, they could well develop into a top CB, but they have shown over the last 3+ seasons, they can't stay fit and that's the problem and why a new CB is needed.

KH25 · 10-12-2014 04:45PM

zerks wrote: »

Will a book be written if Liverpool beat us on Sunday?

It'll be their entire season highlight DVD.

10-12-2014 04:55PM

Sunday's game will now be their cup final, proper order is on the way to being restored.

Hulk Hands · 10-12-2014 05:06PM

zerks wrote: »

Form goes out the window when they play us,it'll be like a cup final for Liverpool on Sunday.

I dont think it does though. Our record against them prior to last year was very good when we were well ahead in the league. They beat us twice last season when clearly better. This game has parallel's to the OT fixture last season when people expected a United backlash to try save their season. Liverpool were simply in much better form and came in and spanked us. If Liverpool were ever going to lift their game, surely it wouldve been last night when they really needed a performance? I just dont think theyre capable of raising their game at present, and the prospect of a tough away tie and the likes of Di Maria coming back in is hardly going to help confidence shot players. One off game and anything can happen obviously, but i'm massively looking forward to Sunday rather than dreading it.

10-12-2014 05:31PM

Let's hope the utd fans at OT have a 'Brendan Rodgers is a football genius' banner

Vic Vinegar · 10-12-2014 05:36PM

bangkok wrote: »

would love cahill at united, one of the best defenders in the league

For real real? or for play play?

bangkok · 10-12-2014 05:42PM

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

For real real? or for play play?

you dont rate him? 7m an absolute steal for Chelsea, there is not many better centre halves around in the league

GavRedKing · 10-12-2014 05:56PM

bangkok wrote: »

you dont rate him? 7m an absolute steal for Chelsea, there is not many better centre halves around in the league

I've just said it in the Chelsea thread, the amount of CBs genuinely better than him would be, IMO, Terry, Kompany and Kosclieny, the rest are worse or at a simialr level but then that shows a lack of top quality CBs in the league or the world for that matter.

I'm not a Cahill fan, he was playing terrible against Spurs and a better CF than Kane would have punished us and against Newcastle he was found out again.

I think hes ok but hes made look better by Terry next to him, if JT has an off day, Cahill can be exposed.

10-12-2014 05:58PM

Cahill was very shaky at Bolton. Has looked better at Chelsea but in an ultra defensive system. Doesn't get tested most games and is decent with the ball at his feet. Similar enough to Evans I think but Evans I feel potentially has more in his locker.

bantee · 10-12-2014 06:06PM

Chelsea's loss on Saturday highlighted Matic's importance from a defence-protection point of view.

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