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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    3-6 to 6 for Modeligo right before half-time. Looks like that 5 week break has hurt us big time. Oh well, intermediate to look forward to next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭cul beag


    Best luck to Castlemartr today huge game

    Considering cork teams normally do well here and they had a bye in semi final and kept fresh and its mallow with cork senior and intermediate panel members they should be winning and it will be major disappointment if they loose
    Mondlifgo are very good and could win but with cork venue should be winning

    Great to see a city east cork connection in christy connery with the east cork lads
    Hopefully all cork will unite east west north south and the city also and support these boys in munster glory trail

    Best of luck to them today

    I hope I'm not speaking too early as its only halftime but I did warn you TTM that Modeligo are no bad side. The form book would point them to having a right chance but as I said I hope I'm not tempting faith as its only halftime!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    cul beag wrote: »
    I hope I'm not speaking too early as its only halftime but I did warn you TTM that Modeligo are no bad side. The form book would point them to having a right chance but as I said I hope I'm not tempting faith as its only halftime!!

    Modeligo were favourites going into the match after beating the Limerick champions, and with C'Martyr having a five week break.

    Modeligo currently nine up, not a big surprise to most.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    Orizio wrote: »
    Modeligo were favourites going into the match after beating the Limerick champions, and with C'Martyr having a five week break.

    Modeligo currently nine up, not a big surprise to most.

    They weren't with the bookies, and I doubt anyone that cared down Cork way felt the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Fifth goal for Modeligo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭cul beag


    Orizio wrote: »
    Modeligo were favourites going into the match after beating the Limerick champions, and with C'Martyr having a five week break.

    Modeligo currently nine up, not a big surprise to most.

    Yes I know that but TTM seemed convinced that ye were going to win it and I merely pointed out to him some time back that modeligo were a good side and would take some beating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    They weren't with the bookies, and I doubt anyone that cared down Cork way felt the same.

    I don't know what odds the bookies had but the Castlemartyr lads that saw Modeligo play in the Munster semi were very pessimistic going into the final. Throw the five week break into it and the current hammering isn't that surprising, at least to me.

    Anyway congrats to Modeligo, hopefully they can put it up to the KK champions.

    We'll be fine next year in Inter, will have a few forwards back as well. Don't think it benefits us much playing more games at the start of next year, we've had something like 12 championship matches already this year, need a break.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    cul beag wrote: »
    Yes I know that but TTM seemed convinced that ye were going to win it and I merely pointed out to him some time back that modeligo were a good side and would take some beating.

    TTM has an obsession with C'Martyr and a number of its players. He was building us up so he could slaughter us when we lost. Which is what he will do later. His posts had nothing to do with Modeligo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Caps a poor year for our clubs in Munster championships with Ballyhea losing to Lixnaw and Sars flattering to deceive again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Modeligo 5-12 Castlemartyr 0-14 FT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Congratulations mountain lad brilliant win for ye
    Now I did expect Castlemartr to win, purely based on two lawtons and also fact castle were fresher and has soft run to the final

    I'd say Mondlifgo could win in it, though going be close
    I'm absolutely wrong one hundred per cent in the humiliating absolutely dreadful appalling defeat suffered today by that margin, though I had doubts on them in other games I never saw this coming
    Orizo your loyal castle man, I have deep admiration for that.
    No one blowing up castle to slaughter them as you put it.
    Your unbelievable at times.
    People here just twist perception suit themselves
    I was and you well you know it clearly standing up east cork hurling for them last week against so called anti city bias but now you say I wanted blow up your club so I could slaughter then in I wanted them to loose


    Cop on what disgraceful insult them I wanted castle to win and I was there today to support them and we'll you know it lad
    Any one here surely testify I'm cork man to the core
    The day people think I want cork to loose I'll stop posting.
    That's not fair Lad now, your upset fair enough loss but Christ I hadn't even posted and you have go at me
    .


    There cork so I wanted them to win
    I wanted them to win and gutted they lost as I thought they win as host cork junior clubs meelin, drispey, kildorrey etc great great clubs now won management munster and let's be truthful and honest if you can be,take away your emotions today and yes can understand your sickened by today's dissaster, I am too, but ye had softest of all runs to the munster title and yr were even comparative, ye were horrendous



    Now I'm insulting no one, ask any one game it was awful from castle.
    Now john horgan a loyal castle man main writer in cork evening echo one of Yere own, said he expected castlemstyr to win in Friday paper
    Now was he building ye up to slaughter he's own club
    No he wasn't. But you think I was.
    Don't insult me with greatest respect suggest I wanted ye loose
    Your upset don't take it out me.

    Take your head out of the sand with regards your club. You critise every other teams cork minors midelton and others and your right at timesin defeats but Christ you can't critise field play an appalling display today by your club.
    Are you for real.


    Did I or did not like yourself critise glen rovers same result in county final.
    Yes I did
    You think your club immune from valid critised think again
    No club Is
    You were fast to try rub my nose in it saying I'd go mad ye win county when your were a quiet boy when I reposted old post year ago saying I wanted yr win county great for cork.
    I'll repost that you want


    I critised this club rightfully so in games in I said ye were lucky in some ye were not good as ye though ye were and in fact yr struggled to put away teams.
    I expected ye win county final by eight points more ye did and congratulations ye hugely


    I try telling you Brian lawtons was no where near senior standard. You got excited
    Waterford lads said he was overrated and they were bang on and I said this since Last may and all year he's nit cork senior and while good at times for senior senior hurler he was shouldered times and again and again off the ball and he did okay buy okay not good enough for cork
    Today proved what I already knew no where near intercounty senior level in truth would struggle at intermediate intercounty against top centre back


    Donovan Waterford lad was exceptional and sweeper like Franz Beckenbauer in he's day destroyed lawtons on breaking ball and in the air
    Lawton should nit be on the cork panel, average on great ucc teams and for physical player wasn't at the level required today


    Mondlifgo deserve immense the credit and totally dominated this game could had eight goals and tough, hurling intelligent play, hunger was miles above the east cork boys
    Yes teams are beaten but no excuse this
    Wait for the excuses ist east cork county in fifty years and we only wanted that munster no priority.
    No no no no


    No excuses. They got soft munster final at home and glorious chance munster they may never have again and blew it, and we're not even competitive.
    Awful awful results cork club hurling again and softness in cork hurling so evident when Mondlifgo fairly blew cork club off ball time and time again

    I told you ye would struggle in intermediate next year and ye will.
    Ye will do well to compete. Bar county final against second string ballinshaig who it was their second team as they have intermediate team ye struggle beat cloughduv and others and credit due winning county but today ye were dire


    Now you may take offence to this, you shouldn't as in all honestly what else do you want me say today that ye played well and bounce ball cost ye and Yere a great team and just bad day,sorry I'm not going to look like optimist when reality stares me in the face


    Congratulations to Mondlifgo totally unexpected as mountain lad said and brilliant results for them and talking few Yere fans after there privilege to county, great bunch people
    I hope they win all irelands now
    Commiserations to castle, I'm sickened for them, and feel for them but huge work to do next year as this was a huge huge defeat and Waterford lads even stopped playing last five minutes it could been won
    They will struggle in cork intermediate next year.
    Your living in fantasy land we have few back next year
    All due respect lads your talking bout could not make up the thirteen or so points today

    No no no excuse for tiredness in ye had around six weeks breaks county final as kenmare walk in park ye had bye to munster final
    Ye had a break now come on kid get real
    How many games has Mondlifgo
    Surely same if not more
    Ist munster win ever they didn't hide behind cheap excuses
    Twas laid on a plate for ye, game in Mallow. Kerry team bye to final and they could not even put in a performance.
    If twas close game you could try make case as ist final etc but there was nothing positive in that perferormance and if anything shows worrying trend in cork hurling in there poor championship at most levels and the hurling is too soft as castle could not cope way referee done game who imo had brilliant game reffeed in the game way should be player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Caps a poor year for our clubs in Munster championships with Ballyhea losing to Lixnaw and Sars flattering to deceive again.

    Awful awful year for cork clubs

    Ballyhea had some excuse two main forwards out worth least seven points in game

    Others no excuses imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Best luck to Castlemartr today huge game

    Considering cork teams normally do well here and they had a bye in semi final and kept fresh and its mallow with cork senior and intermediate panel members they should be winning and it will be major disappointment if they loose
    Mondlifgo are very good and could win but with cork venue should be winning

    Great to see a city east cork connection in christy connery with the east cork lads
    Hopefully all cork will unite east west north south and the city also and support these boys in munster glory trail

    Best of luck to them today

    Hardly convinced that east cork boys would win clear as day as why I expected them to win and my words were should be winning but be close
    Expecting and saying teams unbeatable too different things.
    I expect cork football to win but it doesn't mean I'm confident one hundred per cent



    No where did I say they would win hundred per cent
    I said based number factors should win it but as here shows said monligo could win. Yes I said Waterford crowd could win but major disappointment castle lost as never saw that huge loss coming.


    The great there bout here is you can always requote posts when needed despite some one in particular here as trend shows now last two weeks clearly coming on cork thread and any thread I post on trying give false perception of what actually say.
    This poster is like my shadow at this stage
    I've no problem opinion but every post I do other threads etc this guy can't wait it to critise my posts as trend clearly shows
    Keep up the good work, it's only yourself your giving poor perception of with respect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭CORKDOUBLE


    Is it time that our Intermidate A champions represent the county in the provincial Junior club championships....the reality is that our Junior champions win the fourth championship in Cork...ie Senior , Premier Intermidate, Intermidate , Junior ....the Junior Championship in the other countys is the third most important championship they have ....its not equal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Valid points double but what would be hard to go against changing is
    Since its started in 2001 we had nine cork winners and last seven years four winners of this magical competition.

    Drispey. Charville. Meelin fr o Neill S, courcey and ballinshaig all done cork hurling proud by glorious triumphs in munster hurling and yes barryroe and fermoy and dromina lost finals but we're close games nothing like today margin and way they were outclassed is worst of cork clubs in history competition since it started in 2001
    you look at history worst margin by cork team in defeat this thirteen point loss today.
    It wasn't just any defeat record defeat for cork clubs since 2001 and the competition started.
    Now geuinely I'm not making slight at Castle just calling spade a spade.
    People can look up history competition if they want
    Been poor year for cork club hurling.



    Imo I wouldn't be changed the format but refeeing at all levels needs change as again like in senior cork teams blown away physically and are winning soft championship.
    If they were competitive no need to change imo.
    I think just quality of the representative of cork was poor and Grenagh last year in munster qualifying asway home much better in defeat and at least gave perferormance imo.

    To say the gap affected them imo is wrong in that monligo had five weeks gap from their county final and won semi in munster no problem at all
    This time year imo break was welcome relief for castle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭It makes sense


    Valid points double but what would be hard to go against changing is
    Since its started in 2001 we had nine cork winners and last seven years four winners of this magical competition.

    Drispey. Charville. Meelin fr o Neill S, courcey and ballinshaig all done cork hurling proud by glorious triumphs in munster hurling and yes barryroe and fermoy and dromina lost finals but we're close games nothing like today margin and way they were outclassed is worst of cork clubs in history competition since it started in 2001
    you look at history worst margin by cork team in defeat this thirteen point loss today.
    It wasn't just any defeat record defeat for cork clubs since 2001 and the competition started.
    Now geuinely I'm not making slight at Castle just calling spade a spade.
    People can look up history competition if they want
    Been poor year for cork club hurling.



    Imo I wouldn't be changed the format but refeeing at all levels needs change as again like in senior cork teams blown away physically and are winning soft championship.
    If they were competitive no need to change imo.
    I think just quality of the representative of cork was poor and Grenagh last year in munster qualifying asway home much better in defeat and at least gave perferormance imo.

    To say the gap affected them imo is wrong in that monligo had five weeks gap from their county final and won semi in munster no problem at all
    This time year imo break was welcome relief for castle

    Was at match today better team won but Castlemartyr played very poorly could not pick out one player who played above average even Adrian Bowens who has been terrific all season struggled today, maybe season has could up with them but certainly outmuscled in midfield and at the back where Devine caused havoc, might have been worth playing a sweeper in front of him as one on one he destroyed them they did bring Jamie stack back but he seemed to play in no particular position.

    Good luck to the Waterford boys though as their move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭Smith614


    Awful awful year for cork clubs

    Ballyhea had some excuse two main forwards out worth least seven points in game

    Others no excuses imo

    Ballyhea were gutted and it shows the uphill battle they will have in 2015 to survive. They were missing two players but Lixnaw were also withoutb2 of their best players. John Griffin and Galvin. When Bruff played Lixnaw Paul Browne had no answer to griffin and Galvin is no mean player either. After county final I was confident ballyhea would win Munster but they were found badly wanting .
    No Munster title for Cork clubs hurling or football is a sad reflection of how soft Cork has got. It's a mans sport not an exhibition sport. I agree referees need to cop on and let the game be played as it should be played.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Smith614 wrote: »
    Ballyhea were gutted and it shows the uphill battle they will have in 2015 to survive. They were missing two players but Lixnaw were also withoutb2 of their best players. John Griffin and Galvin. When Bruff played Lixnaw Paul Browne had no answer to griffin and Galvin is no mean player either. After county final I was confident ballyhea would win Munster but they were found badly wanting .
    No Munster title for Cork clubs hurling or football is a sad reflection of how soft Cork has got. It's a mans sport not an exhibition sport. I agree referees need to cop on and let the game be played as it should be played.
    I agree and if it's true who they getting as manager imo awful choice and they unfortunately will go backwards
    If true I can't believe this appointment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭Smith614


    A former Limerick player ? They are apparently struggling to get coach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭Smith614


    Heard Newtown have some guy from East Limerick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Smith614 wrote: »
    A former Limerick player ? They are apparently struggling to get coach.

    Appalling choice correct they had two names both limerick men former players yes
    If confirmed forget BT ballyhea next year

    Honestly I'd actually do better job seriously I'm not being arrogant

    Newtown going local if can but they may have to go outside

    Pat mulchay trying hard unlikely living in cork now still nothing set

    No excuse for appointment poor coaches if badly stuck apply some young lad

    Monligo coach brilliant just twenty seven had accident give up playing terrific coach so young though future bright for him

    Wexford getting top top coach club up there

    Another cork club getting major coup major coup cork born he is

    Huge chance county title imo

    Cork championship getting good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭CORKDOUBLE


    While it has been a bad year for our clubs in both codes ....Kerry teams beating 4 of our clubs ...i believe we will do better again like you say TTM our record in Junior hurling is good ...but junior football record is very poor .....do we need to do away with the second grade in Intermidate ? a lot of teams in both grades of the Intermidate A are with respects to them only Junior standard ....and likewise in our Junior A like this year when St.Finbarrs and Ballinhassig second teams nearly win those championships what does it say ...with respects again i believe that some of our Junior A sides are of Junior B standard ....i dont think this is good ....i think it makes things a bit easy when you have another grade its not competitive enough it makes you soft ...the tougher the competition the better our clubs will get .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    I don't think you could make a case for Cork having their intermediate a champs playing in the Junior Munster. There is around 250 clubs in Cork if I recall correctly. There is 50 in Waterford. That is both hurling and football to my knowledge but its some difference.

    It's only 2 or 3 years since Cork last won Munster at the grade so its not like this has been a problem a long time. Modeligo won Wes Waterford which qualified them for a county final. There was only 4 teams in the west Waterford championship. Ballysaggart came through the same way last year. They're proposing a much needed change in the structure this year but its simply a case of us finally having to long over due quality Junior teams, though its no surprise we usually struggle at this grade given were a small County with some poor structures in place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    Appalling choice correct they had two names both limerick men former players yes
    If confirmed forget BT ballyhea next year

    Honestly I'd actually do better job seriously I'm not being arrogant

    Newtown going local if can but they may have to go outside

    Pat mulchay trying hard unlikely living in cork now still nothing set

    No excuse for appointment poor coaches if badly stuck apply some young lad

    Monligo coach brilliant just twenty seven had accident give up playing terrific coach so young though future bright for him

    Wexford getting top top coach club up there

    Another cork club getting major coup major coup cork born he is

    Huge chance county title imo

    Cork championship getting good

    Pa Kearney was regarded as one of the best club hurlers in Waterford before the accident, class act when Ballyduff won the county in the 2007 but was maybe just a bit small for inter county. Great to see him do it.

    His younger brother Mikey scored 3 points in the Minor all Ireland last year, Ive no doubt your aware of him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭Horse84


    Pa Kearney was regarded as one of the best club hurlers in Waterford before the accident, class act when Ballyduff won the county in the 2007 but was maybe just a bit small for inter county. Great to see him do it.

    His younger brother Mikey scored 3 points in the Minor all Ireland last year, Ive no doubt your aware of him.

    Yea ballyduff wouldn't have won that without pa. He was a special talent. I know him well, sound man. Great to see him do well with modeligo. Hurling is his life.
    People in ballyduff say mikey is better than him at his age. Serious up and coming talent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Rebel norrie


    Any confirmed new managers or coaches for senior clubs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Any confirmed new managers or coaches for senior clubs.

    Expect at least three this week or so
    Cork man going outside cork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    I'd agree that cork shouldn't be allowed enter intermediate team and no doubt now some will crib they should and I'll be honest give cork bad name we do change it in for seven years when we won we never complained now we do


    I'll be honest I'm proud cork man but sometimes I'm upset by attuide to blame everything bar look within
    Today castle got five from play just five points the softness on cork hurling at all levels destroyed us as like sarsfields rely on free a lot
    Some won't see that and blame other excuses for today imo



    Today it was men against boys physically they blow east cork boys off ball time and time again in challenge , and some looked for frees not their fault as in cork they get like all teams soft frees you wouldn't get in basket ball
    Refeeing I'd change in cork before I'd change format championship




    Brian lawtons one point yes one point from play

    Now why am I single him out
    Simply as he's name keeps cropping up in names cork senior panel so imo today munster final and if he wants play cork senior hurling where he will face kilkenny sooner or later, then if he can't do it junior hurling munster final what chance will he do in kilkenny


    He's senior intercounty training for last two years or so it's fair for me surely and others expect more these players in these games
    He didn't stand out
    Donovan did and troy for Waterford team
    You see I judge Lawton not that I single him out but I judge roche Haughney and Murray who called up cork panel same and while all fine club players in own right there imo nit elite senior intercounty level imo.


    Good news today was Curran had holden in all sorts trouble at full back for kilkenny ballyhale so like city kat confirmed my thoughts kilkenny will struggle to fill full back in won't be holden or indeed glynn
    Kilkenny have full back problems so it will be interesting who fills it for them and good news they now have same problem as cork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    http://thescore.thejournal.ie/colin-fennelly-kilkenny-1818786-Dec2014/?utm_source=shortlink

    Had to post this hear simply had to

    Often people think I'm too harsh critic where I critise players
    Not at all and I certainly don't get any enjoyment critise fellow cork men.
    But I follow advocately kilkenny template as it's standard cork don't have choice but to reach
    Just look at this article

    See way Cody ruthless does not do reputation
    I'm hoping landers brings ruthless edge to cork hurling as clearly wasn't there last year in selection policy and when you have roche. Murray, Lawton you have wonder is jbm ruthless all the time


    On the fennelly note I'd hope jbm does same pat horgan
    He's has talent never in doubt
    But he's has awful year in club and county from play
    Imo must be taken off frees as imo he's impression is I'm ace free taker brilliant as he is that's my job done
    He needs be dripped for ist two games

    In training cork need referring games more structured in let everything go
    And horgan when training frees must not do in training as Shefflin doesn't either they do it own time

    Now immense credit pa he does arrive training early to put effort in practice but look frees alone imo not justification for starting
    I can guarantee you Cody would dropped him this year after ist two games
    Cork have to get ruthless seriously
    Look at physical hurling in leinster final yesterday, it made me cringe when you think stuff cork club hurling offers
    Any cork team be blown away physically by either leinster team yesterday
    It's no wonder kilkenny have threw leinster championship in three different grades and minors senior all ireland champions and kerry minors senior and again dominating munster club football as there ruthless right across the board


    In both hurling and football cork loosing huge ground to our greatest rivals and huge part problem were not ruthless enough to make changes.
    In cork always view were too harsh, ah you can't critise, we're doing okay etc etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭wackokid


    TTM............I love your posts and in depth analysis BUT............
    It should be pointed out that the two counties you highlight as examples we should follow simply do not "play the game" in an amateur fashion as intended by the founding fathers.

    Both counties play one code to the detriment of the other code and Cork GAA is a different animal. Always was and I'd say will always be.
    When a Kilkenny man thinks GAA he thinks only hurling and conversely when GAA is mentioned in Kerry, hurling is the furthest thought in their heads.

    To beat that mindset requires an exceptional group/panel of Cork players which is only likely to happen in rare cycles or periods of time. It will become less likely henceforth as modern training methods will favour those who specialise.

    Keep up the good work. You are a breath of fresh air on a wet and dreary Monday morning.


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