Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

Francie Barrett · 01-12-2014 01:21PM

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30272959

"I want to play for a club that wants me," said the 30-year-old. "I am not going to go crawling to anybody.

As I suspected really, Johnson is gone.

Dickerty · 01-12-2014 01:32PM

Maybe he'd go back to West Ham?

They need a RB, having taken Jenkinson on loan who I assume Arsenal will want back.
It's his previous club, he clearly has some feeling for them. And we know Sam loves English and experienced!

Harry Palmr · 01-12-2014 01:32PM

Sounds like 'suicide by quote' doesn't it?

noodler · 01-12-2014 01:34PM

GlenJo has really tried to milk the goal with those comments coming so close after the game.

He is on something crazy per week (is it above 100k?) and past it. He'd need massive pay cut in order to be a decent squad option.

I'd say he is gone as well.

01-12-2014 02:00PM

In fairness you couldn't blame Johnson for wanting to get as much cash as he can get.

It'll be good deal for everyone really if he leaves.

JohnDaniels · 01-12-2014 02:02PM

noodler wrote: »

GlenJo has really tried to milk the goal with those comments coming so close after the game.

He is on something crazy per week (is it above 100k?) and past it. He'd need massive pay cut in order to be a decent squad option.

I'd say he is gone as well.

If we don't want to pay it then that's fine. Personally I wouldn't but it looks like other teams like Roma are willing to offer him 120k a week. So we pay or he leaves. He isn't going to half his wages to stay when he can get his current wage elsewhere.

Augmerson · 01-12-2014 02:12PM

I think the Italian league would suit Johnson tbh. You always wanted to like Johnson but he'd always mess it up, like that semi-final against Aletico Madrid were he fell asleep and Forlan scored. I think he would have been better in some Liverpool sides as a winger than a fullback and it's disappointing he doesn't have more goals as he had a wicked strike even from well outside the box.

ush · 01-12-2014 02:18PM

Saying the Italian game suits someone is a backhanded compliment.

01-12-2014 02:21PM

Johnson had some great seasons as a fullback. He's just really gone backwards this last few years

klose · 01-12-2014 02:29PM

Are Roma really happy to offer Johnson his supposed 120k a week? I'd be amazed if true. Still can't get over him being on that kind of wage, is there a full back anywhere in the world on that kind of wage?

brevity · 01-12-2014 02:30PM

Suffering from what happened to Riise IMO. And there is no regular DM in the team to cover his position when he goes forward.

noodler · 01-12-2014 02:49PM

brevity wrote: »

Suffering from what happened to Riise IMO. And there is no regular DM in the team to cover his position when he goes forward.

I don't think that is it at all.

He can't take on players anymore, never goes around. Rarely gets as many shots in, less accurate with the ones he does get in.

I mean, having a DM there to cover him would be nice but I don't feel it autmatically gives him his pace or attack spark back.

When you couple this loss of attacking ability, the reason we paid a premium for him in transfer fees and wages, with his seemingly lack of concern for defending then it really puts the nail in his coffin.

JohnDaniels · 01-12-2014 02:54PM

klose wrote: »

Are Roma really happy to offer Johnson his supposed 120k a week? I'd be amazed if true. Still can't get over him being on that kind of wage, is there a full back anywhere in the world on that kind of wage?

Well it depends on the length of contract. People tend to think about this stuff wrong. You aren't paying a transfer fee so effectively his weekly wage is much lower which is why teams may be willing to offer him his current wage. Couple of million plus 60k is effectively the same as no fee and 120k a week. If he was performing regularly at his past best I wouldn't have any issue with offering him his current wage. I just don't think he's good enough anymore rather than huge issues with offering what he wants to stay.

brevity · 01-12-2014 03:02PM

noodler wrote: »

I don't think that is it at all.

He can't take on players anymore, never goes around. Rarely gets as many shots in, less accurate with the ones he does get in.

I mean, having a DM there to cover him would be nice but I don't feel it autmatically gives him his pace or attack spark back.

When you couple this loss of attacking ability, the reason we paid a premium for him in transfer fees and wages, with his seemingly lack of concern for defending then it really puts the nail in his coffin.

I think all that comes from complacency due to lack of competition. Probably age too.

Super-Rush · 01-12-2014 03:30PM

Tickets sorted for Basel on the Kop.

Lets hope my 100% win rate continues.

OwaynOTT · 01-12-2014 03:42PM

I think Johnson also has an inflated opinion of his ability, with which he hasn't factored in his declining abilities due to age.
Something akin to that middle age bloke we all know that still tries his case with women far younger than him, despite his beer gut, follicle manipulation and a desperate need to dress hip. Ya know Kerrigooney.

5starpool · 01-12-2014 03:45PM

Super-Rush wrote: »

Tickets sorted for Basel on the Kop.

Lets hope my 100% win rate continues.

I think I was on about 12 before my 100% record evaporated.

Francie Barrett · 01-12-2014 03:49PM

The only thing is that if Johnson leaves, you can be sure he will be giving his all as he is now in the shop window.

Knex* · 01-12-2014 04:03PM

5starpool wrote: »

I think I was on about 12 before my 100% record evaporated.

Then you went on that shocking run which had everyone here trying to ban you from going to games :pac:

5starpool · 01-12-2014 04:22PM

Knex. wrote: »

Then you went on that shocking run which had everyone here trying to ban you from going to games :pac:

Ya, it was a brutal fall from grace. I think my record in my first 15 games (spread out over a good few years) was something like W13 D2, then I went something like 7 without a win. Since that duck has been broken I think I've had about 15 games with mixed success but more wins than losses.

I haven't been to a game this season yet, but I'm getting back in the horse for the West Ham game on 31st Jan.

x43r0 · 01-12-2014 04:24PM

I went something like W9 D2 L0 until the villa game this season

I haven't been able to get my hand on tickets for any of the remaining games. Probably for the best

jasonb · 01-12-2014 04:33PM

I'm on W8/D1, and something like 25-4 in goals as well. I'm surprised the club don't pay for me to go over...

J.

Knex* · 01-12-2014 04:41PM

jasonb wrote: »

I'm on W8/D1, and something like 25-4 in goals as well. I'm surprised the club don't pay for me to go over...

J.

Fuck it, at this stage this thread will nearly start a whip-a-round and send you over ourselves :pac:

5starpool · 01-12-2014 04:43PM

I think good records like that are more likely if you go to one or two games a season as tickets for the 'smaller' games are probably a bit easier to get, or were until recent years anyhow, but the more games you go to the more likely you'll see some crap. My bad run coincided with the end of Kenny's reign and the start of Brendan's one. My first non win was the 2-2 draw with Everton in Kenny's first home game back in charge.

mosstin · 01-12-2014 05:08PM

Last 5 games;
Pool 0 - 1 Soton
Pool 5 - 1 Arsenal
Pool 2 - 1 Toon
Pool 0 - 1 Villa
Pool 0 - 0 Hull

With the exception of that Arsenal match my recent record has been shocking. Hoping to get to see Swansea and Leicester over the Christmas.
Sorry.

8-10 · 01-12-2014 05:11PM

My record at Anfield is 5 games, W4 D0 L1 with 11 scored, 8 conceded....spanning 18 years from the first to the 5th!

Edit: Might as well put in the games

Pool 4-3 Newcastle
Pool 3-2 Everton
Pool 1-0 Barcelona
Pool 1-2 Chelsea
Pool 2-1 Ludogorets

Augmerson · 01-12-2014 05:14PM

Citytillidie should setup the thread, he was our good luck charm against Stoke.

mosstin · 01-12-2014 05:22PM

8-10 wrote: »

My record at Anfield is 5 games, W4 D0 L1 with 11 scored, 8 conceded....spanning 18 years from the first to the 5th!

Edit: Might as well put in the games

Pool 4-3 Newcastle
Pool 3-2 Everton
Pool 1-0 Barcelona
Pool 1-2 Chelsea
Pool 2-1 Ludogorets

Original Pool vs Toon or the sequel?

mosstin · 01-12-2014 05:22PM

Augmerson wrote: »

Citytillidie should setup the thread, he was our good luck charm against Stoke.

Aye, that bloody Glen Johnson got too much credit.

Agent Coulson · 01-12-2014 05:29PM

Bringing the underage team to show the senior players how to do it.

https://twitter.com/sheyi_ojo/status/539443664624578560

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

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