Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

Charlie19

I wouldn't think there was any malice on balotelli part just naivety.

The Mig

My 1st go at a match thread:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=93273059#post93273059

gucci

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

That joke has been around for years.

Are you talking about Ballotelli himself or his latest tweet/instagram

Sir Gallagher

Another week another tedious race row in the premiership to distract from how sh1te the league has become.

jasonb

8-10 wrote: »

I saw BalotellI score! :P

I saw that too. And Lovern... But I also saw Carragher score (for us)! Oh, and against us too. I even saw Ngog, Voronin and Gonzalez score...

J.

gafferino

Mario Balotelli - Official

I apologize if I’ve offended anyone. The post was meant to be anti-racist with humour. I now understand that out of context may have the opposite effect. Not all Mexicans have moustache, not all black people jump high and not all Jewish people love money. I used a cartoon done by someone else because it has Super Mario and I thought it was funny and not offensive. Again, I’m sorry.

Francie Barrett

Ah man, more rubbish with Balotelli just deflecting from the real issues.

Fine him a weeks wages and just move on.

brevity

Its ridiculous that he even has to say that.

ush

brevity wrote: »

Its ridiculous that he even has to say that.

You mean you should never have to apologise for using racial stereotypes?

Sir Gallagher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfNhiRGQ-js

x43r0

The Mirror this morning are reporting that Chelsea may loan out Salah in January to Everton, QPR, Stoke or Sunderland :rolleyes:

Could have been such a different story for him

The Moldy Gowl

ush wrote: »

You mean you should never have to apologise for using racial stereotypes?

Ffs.

It's quite clearly a joke about how stupid being racist is and it dosent matter what you are, all you have to do is just be sound and not a gowl.

It's the subtext that's important.


He should have posted a picture of him saying soz bbz inside a KFC while shopping for watermelons. That would have ****ed with people's head. Do they get angry at a stereotype he appears to be mocking, or is he just eating and shopping.

Don't take things literally, that's were satire about society will fly over your head and you will be confused as to why you should be offended, then get more offended.

brevity

ush wrote: »

You mean you should never have to apologise for using racial stereotypes?

"Not all Mexicans have moustache, not all black people jump high and not all Jewish people love money."

Anyone with half a brain would understand this. While he should not have put himself in this position, it is so depressing that he has to come out and make the above statement.

garra

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/elevenyearold-irish-messi-set-to-join-liverpool-30790444.html

Awesomeness to be restored in approximately 7 years

googled eyes

While the joke may have been mildly offensive, I think it should be obvious to anyone with a bit of sense he saw the words " Mario, black and Jewish" ( his adoptive mother is the daughter of a holocaust survivor )and thought it would be a ironic post considering all the racist abuse he's got over the years.


But twitter wont let that get in the way of looking to be offended and claim " that's Mario, fcking up as usual"

ush

How is it being a joke relevant? You either bring the game into disrepute by using racial stereotypes; or you don't bring the game into disrepute by not using racial stereotypes. Easy enough to avoid.

Gowlasauras Rex

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

It's the subtext that's important.

Maybe the lesson is, it's hard to convey subtext in a tweet. And it's probably very hard for a footballer, not known for their incisive analysis as a group.

He is at least guilty of being very stupid and not thinking through the consequences of his tweets. He should get a fine anyway, maybe a course in the use of social media (many footballers would benefit). The fact that he came out pretty quickly and apologised is to his credit, it wasn't months of denial and insisting everyone else was wrong like the Suarez case.

ush

ush wrote: »

You mean you should never have to apologise for using racial stereotypes?

It was a joke get over yourself... F***ing PC sh*te is really really gone to hell.

xabi

Marleigh Fancy Ladybug wrote: »

It was a joke get over yourself... ****ing PC sh*te really really gone to hell.

Its mad Ted, I cant believe the reaction this is getting. I have received that picture numerous times from people who havent a racist bone in their body, its a bloody joke, get over it.

ush

Think the people who are saying its "PC sh*te" need to get over themselves. You don't have a right to say what you want, just because you expressed it as a joke. I understand that may take some getting over.

The Moldy Gowl

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Maybe the lesson is, it's hard to convey subtext in a tweet. And it's probably very hard for a footballer, not known for their incisive analysis as a group.

He is at least guilty of being very stupid and not thinking through the consequences of his tweets. He should get a fine anyway, maybe a course in the use of social media (many footballers would benefit). The fact that he came out pretty quickly and apologised is to his credit, it wasn't months of denial and insisting everyone else was wrong like the Suarez case.

Is it not incredibly ignorant to think footballers are stupid?

You literally just stereotyped footballers into a group, while getting offended bout stereotypes of another group.

Fortunately for you, there is no subtext to yours, you did it literally.

I could say Dublin people as a group are gowls. Or people with long hair are losers as a group.

Or Liverpool players as a group are ****e. It's incredibly ignorant and makes you look like you have a lack of education when you critique footballers for the same thing.


Everyone who works in macdonalds is stupid.

5starpool

This is orders of magnitude different from the Suarez or Terry cases. He'll get a fine from the FA and then move on, although they seem to be giving out bigger punishments for even he more innocuous ones like this (Ferdinand's 4 match one for example, although he had previous for being stupid in a tweet) so he might get a game or two suspension.

Crash Bang Wall

Finical wrote: »

Hi guys,

Fairly new to Dublin. Just wondering does anyone have any pubs I could catch the game on tomorrow. Fairly sure it's on BTsport. If a pub in Drumcondra shows the games that would be great. Otherwise I'm open to all suggestions.

Thanks guys!

Cat and Cage & The Ivy House will have it on. Im sure Fagans will as well, although they serve a lot of food so you may not get the sound on full

Raif Severance

xabi wrote: »

Its mad Ted, I cant believe the reaction this is getting. I have received that picture numerous times from people who havent a racist bone in their body, its a bloody joke, get over it.

Yup, it's a Meme.

If you frequent Videogame Forums, you'd know it's a Joke.

Gowlasauras Rex

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Is it not incredibly ignorant to think footballers are stupid?

You literally just stereotyped footballers into a group, while getting offended bout stereotypes of another group.

Do you actually think the sterotyping that characterises people by reference to their colour, race, religion etc. is one and the same as that which characterises people by their careers? So saying that IT workers are boring is the same as making a patently racist comment? I'd suggest that the latter is "incredibly ignorant".

The Moldy Gowl

Raif Severance wrote: »

Yup, it's a Meme.

If you frequent Videogame Forums, you'd know it's a Joke.

Video games are for nerds and spotty fat men pretending to be girls in their mothers basement.

Vicxas

Wait, what happened?

ush

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Is it not incredibly ignorant to think footballers are stupid?

You literally just stereotyped footballers into a group, while getting offended bout stereotypes of another group.

Stereotyping is bad. Racial stereotyping has led to some of the worse behaviour in our history. This case of stereotyping a well paid group of professionals doesn't come close.

FA has a blanket ban on comments which include "a reference to ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race". Easy enough to avoid. It has to be employed heavy handedly to avoid the it-was-just-a-joke crowd.

The Moldy Gowl

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do you actually think the sterotyping that characterises people by reference to their colour, race, religion etc. is one and the same as that which characterises people by their careers? So saying that IT workers are boring is the same as making a patently racist comment? I'd suggest that the latter is "incredibly ignorant".

How is it different?

You still think less of someone for what/who they are, then make an assumption without knowing that person.

Saying an it person is boring is the same as saying a Jew loves money. It's the same idea. Just one is more socially acceptable.

ush

5starpool wrote: »

This is orders of magnitude different from the Suarez or Terry cases. He'll get a fine from the FA and then move on, although they seem to be giving out bigger punishments for even he more innocuous ones like this (Ferdinand's 4 match one for example, although he had previous for being stupid in a tweet) so he might get a game or two suspension.

Honestly think LFC should just get rid. Where's the upside to the fella?