Ferguson Ariva 250

Thargor · 22-11-2014 07:54PM

I want to get a bigger USB stick for our Ariva 250 but everything has moved to USB 3.0 since I last bought and are promising crazy write speeds like 40 mb/sec, question is will they give at least the required 10 mb/sec write speed when you plug the into the Arivas USB 2.0 port? Anyone ever had this problem?

iba · 22-11-2014 07:56PM

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

Divis is the TV Transmitter at Belfast. The two aerials merge into one cable which goes into a P1235 Power unit which then goes into the Ariva 250 Combo.
I put my address in and the second aerial is pointed at Clermont Carn at Newry, which is the recommended one via that site.

Ok, so I think that neither of your aerials are pointing towards a transmitter that is broadcasting RTE

Thurston? · 22-11-2014 07:58PM

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

The two aerials merge into one cable which goes into a P1235 Power unit which then goes into the Ariva 250 Combo.

I presume you've looked through everything found by the terrestrial scan?

UnlimitedWar · 22-11-2014 08:00PM

iba wrote: »

Ok, so I think that neither of your aerials are pointing towards a transmitter that is broadcasting RTE

I'm pretty sure Clermont Carn broadcasts RTE. Why would it be on this on the Saorview website if not? That is where the second aerial is pointed.

UnlimitedWar · 22-11-2014 08:01PM

Thurston? wrote: »

I presume you've looked through everything found by the terrestrial scan?

It does find RTE 1 and +1 but it says no signal (probably should have mentioned this. Sorry!

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Thurston? · 22-11-2014 08:06PM

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

It does find RTE 1 and +1 but it says no signal.

Must be a problem with your aerial system then. Are the Freeview (UK terrestrial) channels giving trouble-free reception?

And of course, Clermont Carn does broadcast Saorview.

UnlimitedWar · 22-11-2014 08:09PM

Thurston? wrote: »

Must be a problem with your aerial system then. Are the Freeview (UK terrestrial) channels giving trouble-free reception?

And of course, Clermont Carn does broadcast Saorview.

I've just reset it to the factory settings and it's not getting RTE anymore. I'm getting the other channels no problem (BBC 1-4, UTV, CH4, CH5, Dave) but none of them are HD which I thought I should be getting.

Thurston? · 22-11-2014 08:17PM

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

... none of them are HD which I thought I should be getting.

The Ariva 250 doesn't have the DVB-T2 tuner needed for UK HD channels. The newer 252/152 does.

You probably have a problem that affects the Saorview side of the aerial system only: maybe the amplifier powered by the P1235 is on this aerial only, & something has gone wrong there.

UnlimitedWar · 22-11-2014 08:19PM

Thurston? wrote: »

The Ariva 250 doesn't have the DVB-T2 tuner needed for UK HD channels. The newer 252/152 does.

You probably have a problem that affects the Saorview side of the aerial system only: maybe the amplifier powered by the P1235 is on this aerial only, & something has gone wrong there.

So what would I have to do? Split the two aerials and plug them in individually?

Thurston? · 22-11-2014 08:23PM

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

So what would I have to do? Split the two aerials and plug them in individually?

Are they not combined in a diplexer (will be in a plastic box) up on the aerial mast?

Thargor · 22-11-2014 08:50PM

Thargor wrote: »

I want to get a bigger USB stick for our Ariva 250 but everything has moved to USB 3.0 since I last bought and are promising crazy write speeds like 40 mb/sec, question is will they give at least the required 10 mb/sec write speed when you plug the into the Arivas USB 2.0 port? Anyone ever had this problem?

Another Ariva question: When you have 2 USB sticks plugged in, one in front and one in back, how do you switch between the 2? I know I used to be able to do it?

UnlimitedWar · 22-11-2014 09:00PM

Thurston? wrote: »

Are they not combined in a diplexer (will be in a plastic box) up on the aerial mast?

Seeing as it comes down through the attic as one cable I would assume so.

Thurston? · 22-11-2014 09:22PM

Right, when you mentioned splitting the aerials, I was just wondering if there was something near at hand, that maybe someone had stuck in another combiner/splitter for some reason that might have been blocking the power from the amplifier PSU.

Depending what your signals were like when the aerials were installed, there could be 1 amplifier on 1 aerial feed only, 1 amplifier on the combined feed, or an amplifier on each aerial feed. As a test substitute for the PSU, the Ariva can supply 5 volts out of its aerial input, but this mightn't be enough for the amplifier(s) in your installation.

UnlimitedWar · 22-11-2014 09:40PM

I just re-scanned and I've picked up CH-2101, CH-2102 and CH-2117. CH-2101 is RTE 1 and I'm getting sound and what show is on but no picture. The other 2 channels say no picture. Do I just need a new booster, or could it be something else?

UnlimitedWar · 22-11-2014 09:41PM

I took out the P1235 before I rescanned by the way.

Thurston? · 22-11-2014 10:13PM

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

I just re-scanned and I've picked up CH-2101, CH-2102 and CH-2117. CH-2101 is RTE 1 and I'm getting sound and what show is on but no picture. The other 2 channels say no picture.

There are 'test' channels broadcasting ATM, not sure what is on some of them, or why you'd get sound & no picture. Sound but no picture is what some UK Freeview spec. receivers come up with, as they can't handle MPEG4 video. Unless the Ariva does this if country setting is UK?

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

I took out the P1235 before I rescanned by the way.

Do you know if the Ariva amplifier power supply is switched on? Installation > Aerial Adjustment > DVBT Power: On.

UnlimitedWar · 22-11-2014 10:56PM

Thurston? wrote: »

There are 'test' channels broadcasting ATM, not sure what is on some of them, or why you'd get sound & no picture. Sound but no picture is what some UK Freeview spec. receivers come up with, as they can't handle MPEG4 video. Unless the Ariva does this if country setting is UK?

Do you know if the Ariva amplifier power supply is switched on? Installation > Aerial Adjustment > DVBT Power: On.

For some reason I am getting picture on RTE 1 now, but it cuts out now and again. I have it set up so that my country is Ireland.
Yes, the DVBT power is on.

Nowso · 22-11-2014 11:06PM

try it not in the booster and tighten up the coax

Thurston? · 23-11-2014 02:09AM

Nowso wrote: »

try it not in the booster and tighten up the coax

It's not a 'booster', it's a PSU for a masthead amplifier, & UW has removed it.

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

For some reason I am getting picture on RTE 1 now, but it cuts out now and again. I have it set up so that my country is Ireland.
Yes, the DVBT power is on.

So replacing the PSU with the Ariva power brought about this seeming improvement? Maybe the P1235 is dodgy or maybe it was just the cable between P1235 & Ariva, with only Saorview being noticeably affected by the dodgy cable or connections, & the signal from Divis being strong enough to remain reliable.

Tony · 23-11-2014 12:11PM

You can't I'm afraid as they both go to one USB port

Thargor wrote: »

Another Ariva question: When you have 2 USB sticks plugged in, one in front and one in back, how do you switch between the 2? I know I used to be able to do it?

Tony · 23-11-2014 12:14PM

If you know the correct transponder channel frequencies for Saorview ( you can get this from their coverage checker on their website) then select manual scan and check signal and quality reading for both transponders.

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

For some reason I am getting picture on RTE 1 now, but it cuts out now and again. I have it set up so that my country is Ireland.
Yes, the DVBT power is on.

UnlimitedWar · 23-11-2014 01:02PM

Tony wrote: »

If you know the correct transponder channel frequencies for Saorview ( you can get this from their coverage checker on their website) then select manual scan and check signal and quality reading for both transponders.

Manually scanning I get RTE1, RTE Junior (No picture), 2 RTE +1's and quite a few "blank" channels. One of them had a screen showing "2RN Ath Cliath Ardghleine" if that means anything to you. The signal strength and quality were well into the 70% range.

Thurston? · 23-11-2014 01:16PM

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

Manually scanning I get RTE1, RTE Junior (No picture), 2 RTE +1's and quite a few "blank" channels.

Those are the channels on the 2nd Saorview multiplex (mux. 2).

Clermont Carn channel nos./frequencies are: mux. 1 - ch. 52 / 722 mHz, mux. 2 - ch. 56 / 754 mHz.

Most receiver signal quality readings, anything below 100% indicates trouble, & the fact your pictures are glitchy confirms this (obviously).

UnlimitedWar · 23-11-2014 01:38PM

Thurston? wrote: »

Those are the channels on the 2nd Saorview multiplex (mux. 2).

Clermont Carn channel nos./frequencies are: mux. 1 - ch. 52 / 722 mHz, mux. 2 - ch. 56 / 754 mHz.

Most receiver signal quality readings, anything below 100% indicates trouble, & the fact your pictures are glitchy confirms this (obviously).

I did try scanning CH52 but I wasn't finding anything.

Tony · 23-11-2014 01:58PM

Sounds like your aerial is not set up correctly for your saorview transmitter

Thurston? · 23-11-2014 02:34PM

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

I did try scanning CH52 but I wasn't finding anything.

Did this aerial setup ever deliver decent reception of Irish channels? What was analogue like?

You won't find anything if the signal is below the threshold needed for decoding. Maybe the P1235 PSU is faulty, & the 5VDC from the Ariva isn't enough for the amplifier you have fitted?

Check easily accessible items, such as the cables & connections at the TV, & maybe replace the P1235 with a similarly rated PSU, if you suspect it's the culprit. Then work your way up from there (or down from the aerial, as there might be an obvious water-ingress problem), or get an installer in to take a look.

UnlimitedWar · 23-11-2014 02:57PM

Thurston? wrote: »

Did this aerial setup ever deliver decent reception of Irish channels? What was analogue like?

You won't find anything if the signal is below the threshold needed for decoding. Maybe the P1235 PSU is faulty, & the 5VDC from the Ariva isn't enough for the amplifier you have fitted?

Check easily accessible items, such as the cables & connections at the TV, & maybe replace the P1235 with a similarly rated PSU, if you suspect it's the culprit. Then work your way up from there (or down from the aerial, as there might be an obvious water-ingress problem), or get an installer in to take a look.

We got great analogue reception, never had any problems with any of the 9 channels. Does this mean we shouldn't have to get a new aerial? That it must be a fault with the equipment we have?

Thurston? · 23-11-2014 03:44PM

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

We got great analogue reception, never had any problems with any of the 9 channels. Does this mean we shouldn't have to get a new aerial? That it must be a fault with the equipment we have?

There was no change in the type of aerial needed for Clermont Carn Saorview v. analogue.

The 'equipment we have' would include the aerial too: the usual fault here would be water getting into the cable connection. Water could also get into the amplifier or diplexer, or a damaged cable.

What part of NI are you in anyway? Might give some idea of the Freeview & Saorview signal you are getting & which service the amplifier is likely to have been installed for.

UnlimitedWar · 23-11-2014 04:06PM

Thurston? wrote: »

There was no change in the type of aerial needed for Clermont Carn Saorview v. analogue.

The 'equipment we have' would include the aerial too: the usual fault here would be water getting into the cable connection. Water could also get into the amplifier or diplexer, or a damaged cable.

What part of NI are you in anyway? Might give some idea of the Freeview & Saorview signal you are getting & which service the amplifier is likely to have been installed for.

Central Down without giving too much away hahaha. But it's unlikely to be a fault with the aerial itself. More likely to be water damage along the cables, amplifier or diplexer?

Thurston? · 23-11-2014 09:21PM

UnlimitedWar wrote: »

... it's unlikely to be a fault with the aerial itself. More likely to be water damage along the cables, amplifier or diplexer?

There isn't much can go wrong with the aerial, unless a part falls off or water gets into the cable connection.

Anyhow, it's off-topic for this thread, as it certainly doesn't seem to be a receiver fault.

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