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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    kryogen wrote: »
    I just don't buy it, what do we offer Kroos that Madrid can't?

    We offered Moyes but when we sacked him Kroos decided Madrid instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    kryogen wrote: »
    I just don't buy it, what do we offer Kroos that Madrid can't?



    Funnily enough we probably would have paid him more than Madrid, and, even though things have worked out differently now, could have guaranteed him a starting place where at Madrid Modric and Alonso didn't look like they were going anywhere

    His World Cup probably swayed the Madrid hierarchy just like James too, we could have had him before he went off if Moyes had not been sacked

    One of the first things Van Gaal said when he came was there are too many number 10s, seeing as Kroos played that role in his system it's not far fetched than Van Gaal just didn't want him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭mewe


    Imo Kroos chose Madrid over Utd and why wouldn't he? Just like Fabregas.

    Which is another reason we jumped at the opportunity to sign Falcao. It's hard for us now to get the players in the top bracket when competing with clubs like Chelsea,Madrid and Bayern. That's the reality imo.

    On Falcao i think there's no need to panic. With it being a loan deal, if the opportunity was there it was definitely the right thing to do. Time will tell if it works out but he was worth the gamble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ElChe32


    kryogen wrote: »
    I just don't buy it, what do we offer Kroos that Madrid can't?

    Mushy peas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,051 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Pigeon loft n' a ferret. N' a loaf o' Ovis.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Funnily enough we probably would have paid him more than Madrid, and, even though things have worked out differently now, could have guaranteed him a starting place where at Madrid Modric and Alonso didn't look like they were going anywhere

    His World Cup probably swayed the Madrid hierarchy just like James too, we could have had him before he went off if Moyes had not been sacked

    One of the first things Van Gaal said when he came was there are too many number 10s, seeing as Kroos played that role in his system it's not far fetched than Van Gaal just didn't want him

    Its not that far fetched that Van Gaal just didn't want him, but I would argue it is far more likely he was nailed on to Madrid for some time and that is why there was never anything concrete, except that he was probably on his way out of Munich.

    For me it is very far fetched that David Moyes would be the swing factor in the transfer.

    Kroos was played as a number 10 a lot in his career, he was deployed in a deeper role only recently for the most part, and it has been successful.

    Other then fans wanting to believe Kroos choose us over any other suitor I just don't see it. There is just nothing to back it up.

    Madrid often do deals with players well in advance of them joining the club, they did it at Untied with Beckham and Ronaldo to name a couple, it is not that far fetched to think that the deal for Kroos was more or less done and dusted before the season even ended, or that Kroos himself wanted to delay the announcement till after the world cup so as not to have it as a possible distraction.

    We have seen this type of thing before also, its just my opinion that once Madrid came in for him, he was never going anywhere else


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    I know it's Mark Lawrenson but he said on the radio this evening when asked about RVP that rather than busting a gut for his buddy LVG that he was told that they fell out and RVP isn't putting in the shift he used to and is just going through the motions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,209 ✭✭✭KH25


    zerks wrote: »
    I know it's Mark Lawrenson but he said on the radio this evening when asked about RVP that rather than busting a gut for his buddy LVG that he was told that they fell out and RVP isn't putting in the shift he used to and is just going through the motions.

    Mark Lawrenson hasn't got a clue about football anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭mewe


    Mark Lawrenson is a something something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭duffman13


    KH25 wrote: »
    Mark Lawrenson hasn't got a clue about football anymore.

    He's also a sh!t filled bag of nonsense when it comes to United!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Forget Lawro..........here's the match thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=93137615#post93137615


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    I could be wrong but I don't understand all the talk of big signings coming in. Just paper fillers in my eyes. We have just come off our biggest transfer window in history.

    In January I would guess maybe one or two small enough signings just to add depth to our backs. Can't see us doing any big spending though personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Adamocovic wrote: »
    I could be wrong but I don't understand all the talk of big signings coming in. Just paper fillers in my eyes. We have just come off our biggest transfer window in history.

    In January I would guess maybe one or two small enough signings just to add depth to our backs. Can't see us doing any big spending though personally.

    Woodward said no big spending but if the right player becomes available then we may go for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭keane2097




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    zerks wrote: »
    Woodward said no big spending but if the right player becomes available then we may go for him.

    He probably winked into the camera after he said that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Not opposed to Cavani, people talk about him not being the same at PSG but he has to play in Ibra's shadow and out on the wing. He still has more than a goal every two games for PSG

    It would be sad to see RVP go but it was always going to be short lived considering his age


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭jebus84


    10 million loyalty bonus for rvp if he stays for the 4 years of his contract :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    LVG adores Muller and unless one is a fool who wouldn't love Muller at United?
    But didn't he already reject United last summer?

    Cavani is hot at the moment, was watching a French Ligue review and he scored something like five goals in his last five games.

    I would definitely take either over RVP, he is not the same player as 2011/2012.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    LVG set up with a 3-5-2 in training yesterday: DDG, Valencia, Smalling, McNair, Blackett, Young, Carrick, Fellaini, Di Maria, Rooney RVP.according to @sbates_people

    That's interesting if true, could see Di Maria as a number 10, only problem with that is Young is still injured according to Physioroom.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    That's interesting if true, could see Di Maria as a number 10, only problem with that is Young is still injured according to Physioroom.

    Dont really think united are obliged to inform physioroom if a player makes a comeback from injury tbf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,903 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    RobertKK wrote: »

    I would definitely take either over RVP, he is not the same player as 2011/2012.

    Assume you mean 2012/13 ?

    I wouldn't really take Cavani over Falcao.

    They should just stick with RVP, Falcao, Rooney and Wilson for now.
    I'd imagine in the case of a really major injury crisis the Little Pea could be called upon.
    Can't be constantly changing.

    The forward line is the least of United's worries.

    If really really stuck they could play one striker with Mata just off him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    Dont really think united are obliged to inform physioroom if a player makes a comeback from injury tbf

    Yeah no shyte, it's just that Young has been out for ages and i find it unlikely he would be back in contention so quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,903 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    I love watching LVG's press conference.

    Gives direct answers. Calls them out on ridiculous questions.

    Q: are you surprised Rooney has been a good captain?
    A. Eh, no. That's why I picked him , right?

    Q: do you think Welbeck will be looking the score against United?
    A: yes, the opposition forwards are always wanting to score against us, of course

    Not sure if it's his direct Dutch style , or he simply doesn't know many cliches in English


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,186 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    That's interesting if true, could see Di Maria as a number 10, only problem with that is Young is still injured according to Physioroom.

    That could easily be 433 with blackett instead or Shaw and Young taking Jans place.

    RVP
    DiMaria
    Young
    Rooney

    Felliani---Carrick
    Blackett-Smalling-McNair-Valencia
    DeGea

    I suppose we will see in an hour or so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Assume you mean 2012/13 ?

    I wouldn't really take Cavani over Falcao.

    They should just stick with RVP, Falcao, Rooney and Wilson for now.
    I'd imagine in the case of a really major injury crisis the Little Pea could be called upon.
    Can't be constantly changing.

    The forward line is the least of United's worries.

    If really really stuck they could play one striker with Mata just off him.

    His last year at Arsenal and his first season at United, I would put as his best years in the PL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    So did anyone else get an email from United? Got one direct from United after EA sports gave United my email address since I put United down as the team I support on Fifa 15.

    Basically it is United saying as a fan they ant to keep you updated on "official news, exciting offers, promotions and competitions, as well as those from our commercial partners"

    Basically, it is a 'we want to sell you stuff'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,408 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    That's interesting if true, could see Di Maria as a number 10, only problem with that is Young is still injured according to Physioroom.
    We sold Rio, who is the leak now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    352 is something I have been thinking is possible for the game given the players available, or at the very least, something to switch to if we are int he lead and trying to kill the game in the later stages


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    RobertKK wrote: »
    So did anyone else get an email from United? Got one direct from United after EA sports gave United my email address since I put United down as the team I support on Fifa 15.

    Basically it is United saying as a fan they ant to keep you updated on "official news, exciting offers, promotions and competitions, as well as those from our commercial partners"

    Basically, it is a 'we want to sell you stuff'.

    Was going to ask. Thought it was a scam when it asks for full name and opt out, etc...


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