Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

PhlegmyMoses · 20-11-2014 03:54PM

I have never been a huge fan of Hummels. Defo a good player but his fee will be astronomical and I'm not sure he is worth it.

If he flops and the club have no issues with dropping more money to replace him, cool. If he is most of our budget for a summer, not so cool.

PhlegmyMoses · 20-11-2014 03:54PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Mike Phelan landed the Norwich first team coaches job. Best of luck to him.

Oh to be a shorts salesman in Norwich right now.

Rayne Wooney · 20-11-2014 03:55PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Mike Phelan landed the Norwich first team coaches job. Best of luck to him.

I heard they asked him last week and he said yes

Cantona's Collars · 20-11-2014 03:58PM

Valencia did a twitter Q&A, you can guess how that went.90% of the questions were along the lines of "why are you so crap at crossing"?

Rayne Wooney · 20-11-2014 03:59PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Have to disagree. You are going to be talking €50/60m maybe even €70 million to get him (There would be competition from the other big clubs no doubt). I've never subscribed to the idea that the money shouldn't matter to fans, it does matter, and thats far too much to risk if there are doubts about long term fitness.

He is a good defender but he is no Maldini, there will be other options out there.

We paid almost 40 million for Shaw who may never reach Hummels' level. I don't see how the benefit doesn't outweigh the risk on this one. I doubt the club would sign him if there were serious long term medical issues

Your Airbag · 20-11-2014 03:59PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I heard they asked him last week and he said yes

Yes, and I heard he was Phelan good about the job ahead.

I'll show myself out.

bullvine · 20-11-2014 04:06PM

6 months out for Blind ffs

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 20-11-2014 04:08PM

Blind out for 6 months! No luck at sll!! Get strootman in!

PhlegmyMoses · 20-11-2014 04:10PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

We paid almost 40 million for Shaw who may never reach Hummels' level. I don't see how the benefit doesn't outweigh the risk on this one. I doubt the club would sign him if there were serious long term medical issues

I'm not a fan of comparing prices and risk factors of young English talent and older foreign talent. Take these two as an example. Shaw is the best fullback prospect in the country at a time when we were replacing our stalwart left back. As an English kid, he most likely won't want to move elsewhere, as long as we are competing.

At worst he gets injured and doesn't make the grade, middleground, he'll not reach his world class potential but you'll have an able backup/starter for 6 years of his contract. At best, you have a position sorted for 15 years with a great player.

Hummels will be the guts of 27 if we sign him next summer. At worst, he gets injured badly or flops. Middleground, he'll be a decent addition to the team but will take time to adapt and will continue to suffer the injuries of the last 3 years, at best we get 4 great years out of him before he gets slower or fancies a move home.

The risks are very different for the two and for me, the Shaw spend makes far more sense. Also, no way we get Hummels for €40m. Far more likely to be £40/45m imo.

Crimson King · 20-11-2014 04:10PM

I dread his press conferences now, every week there seems to be a new setback.

At least Di Maria and and De Gea are fit.

PhlegmyMoses · 20-11-2014 04:12PM

That is a disaster for Blind. To get that at the start of your career in the big time must be heartbreaking.

Cookiemunster · 20-11-2014 04:12PM

bullvine wrote: »

6 months out for Blind ffs

MrMac84 wrote: »

Blind out for 6 months! No luck at sll!! Get strootman in!

Maybe not......

Mark Ogden ‏@MOgdenTelegraph 56s57 seconds ago Mark Ogden ‏@MOgdenTelegraph 56s57 seconds ago

Confusion over Daley Blind from LVG. He actually said he's 'not out for six months' and that injury not as bad as initially feared

Crimson King · 20-11-2014 04:12PM

Seeing rumours today linking us with Adil Ram, anyone else reckon he would be a great signing?

Crimson King · 20-11-2014 04:13PM

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Confusion over Daley Blind from LVG. He actually said he's 'not out for six months' and that injury not as bad as initially feared

Taken from manutd.com

“Blind is not ready, he has a brace on his knee. He needs 10 days' rest. Then we'll have another scan and say more about his injury. It's not as bad as the doctors thought after the match, but it shall be a long story, I believe, six months or something.”

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Nov/Van-Gaal-delivers-team-news-for-Arsenal-clash.aspx

ScummyMan · 20-11-2014 04:14PM

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Lord TSC · 20-11-2014 04:15PM

Thats heartbreaking. I've really fallen in love with him and think he's been a major, major upgrade to our midfield. Devestated.

Blatter · 20-11-2014 04:17PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

I have never been a huge fan of Hummels. Defo a good player but his fee will be astronomical and I'm not sure he is worth it.

I'd tend to agree. He has these amazing, stand out performances at times alright but he's by no means perfect. He has the turning circle of an oil tanker and gets exposed a fair bit. The other CBs at the club and the full backs have a fair bit of pace in general so he might fit in at Utd without too many problems though.

Vic Vinegar · 20-11-2014 04:18PM

LvG said he's not out for six months, quite clearly said it too.

Edit

Van Gaal on Blind: "It's not as bad as the doctors thought after the match. It shall be a long story - but not six months or so."

ElChe32 · 20-11-2014 04:20PM

Anything on Falcao? Ready to go for Saturday I hope

Burlap_Sack · 20-11-2014 04:20PM

Crimson King wrote: »

Taken from manutd.com

“Blind is not ready, he has a brace on his knee. He needs 10 days' rest. Then we'll have another scan and say more about his injury. It's not as bad as the doctors thought after the match, but it shall be a long story, I believe, NOT six months or something.”

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Nov/Van-Gaal-delivers-team-news-for-Arsenal-clash.aspx

Fixed.

20-11-2014 04:21PM

Crimson King wrote: »

Taken from manutd.com

“Blind is not ready, he has a brace on his knee. He needs 10 days' rest. Then we'll have another scan and say more about his injury. It's not as bad as the doctors thought after the match, but it shall be a long story, I believe, six months or something.”

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Nov/Van-Gaal-delivers-team-news-for-Arsenal-clash.aspx

Sad for Blind, I really thought he started his Utd Career well.
This surely put's the need for a DM & CB into overdrive in January.

Any word on Shaw & Falcoa for the Arsenal match?

Crimson King · 20-11-2014 04:22PM

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

LvG said he's not out for six months, quite clearly said it too.

Edit

thats hilarious, they have changed their quote on manutd.com

"Blind is not ready to play. He has now a brace on his knee, 10 days' rest, then we have to make another scan and we can say more about his injury. It's not so bad as the doctors are thinking after the match, but it shall be a long story, I believe, but not six months or something."

Lord TSC · 20-11-2014 04:39PM

In some better news...

https://twitter.com/guillembalague/status/535371418582917120

bennyl10 · 20-11-2014 05:00PM

ElChe32 wrote: »

Anything on Falcao? Ready to go for Saturday I hope

Needs a further 2-4 weeks

reading on twitter.

Nolars · 20-11-2014 05:11PM

Just cancel Falcaos loan now and buy a new striker and defender.

ScummyMan · 20-11-2014 05:18PM

@ManUtd 14m14 minutes ago
Van Gaal tells #MUTV that @Falcao "has a new injury" and is at least two weeks away from a first-team return. #mufc

So far it looks like it would be madness to buy him permanently.

greendom · 20-11-2014 05:22PM

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81914224/

20-11-2014 05:37PM

ScummyMan wrote: »

So far it looks like it would be madness to buy him permanently.

So far yes but give him until after Christmas at least before writing him off injury wise. It's not easy to come back from those type of injuries without picking up niggles and such. Vidic was the same when it happened to him, ok his performance never really reached pre injury form but his ability to play consistently certainly has.

K4t · 20-11-2014 05:55PM

ScummyMan wrote: »

So far it looks like it would be madness to buy him permanently.

No, it was madness to sign him in the first place when we had RVP, Rooney, Welbeck and Wilson.

bucketybuck · 20-11-2014 06:05PM

K4t wrote: »

No, it was madness to sign him in the first place when we had RVP, Rooney, Welbeck and Wilson.

Agreed. Completely unnecessary signing and a complete waste of whatever money it has cost us. And I will say the same if he ever gets back to full fitness, we didn't need him.

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