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Misandry

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  • #32
    Harold Finchs Machine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Harold Finchs Machine


    georgiecasey wrote: »
    ah jaysus, this type of thread again...

    you'd swear it's a battle of the sexes on the Internet these days. and it's only on the internet, i never discuss this type of stuff in real life with friends or colleagues

    Only on Boards.


  • #33
    Into The Blue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Into The Blue


    Harold Finchs Machine wrote: »
    Only on Boards.

    After hours


  • #34
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    I just hope the mods will be taking any reports of blatant misandry as seriously as they will be for any reports of mysogyny, cus in the end of the day it's all about equality isn't ?


  • #35
    Hitchens
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    VinLieger wrote: »
    I just hope the mods will be taking any reports of blatant misandry as seriously as they will be for any reports of mysogyny, cus in the end of the day it's all about equality isn't ?
    :D


  • #36
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    RayM wrote: »
    It's pretty clear that Peppa Pig needs to be stopped before it does any more damage. And as for those adverts where men are portrayed as bumbling fools... Don't get me started.

    I must say, as a white, straight male, it is a testament to our strength and indefatigable resilience that we have overcome centuries of misandry, heterophobia and anti-white racism, to become the most dominant group in almost every facet of public life. I don't know how we did it, I really don't.
    Oh my god. You do realise how awful that sounds? You can't guarantee that every single male poster here complaining about misandry is white. There is a reason #NotYourShield happened with GamerGate. It's because people like you assume that the only people who could speak out while being in the "dominant" position are white or cis or straight or whatever! Give it a rest!

    Again, I don't think misogyny or misandry are anywhere near as prevalent as some posters on here want to believe but they both exist!


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  • #37
    Day Lewin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,037 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    It always puts my teeth on edge in ads. It seems to be acceptable to jeer and scorn at men, where if the same implication was made of women there would be cries of "Sexist!".
    Peppa Pig is an obvious example but there are many more if you look.
    Even in soap operas, it seems to be automatic that women occupy the moral high ground.
    Real life aint like that. Humans are all human, and all are entitled to dignity regardless of gender, and nobody has a monopoly of pious righteousness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeC0O9akIVU


  • #38
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z36Xadupn5c


  • #39
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Into The Blue wrote: »
    Since the kids started watching peppa pig, I've noticed how much slagging daddy pig gets.. It's basically every episode.. Daddy will do something stupid, Mammy pig will go, "oh daddy pig, here I'll fix it" and they all have a little laugh about it.

    My wife thought I was nuts till I pointed it out to her..

    Well, daddy pig is a bit of an expert at those things.


  • #40
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    catallus wrote: »
    If it was chips we were talking about then wouldn't it be crispandry ?

    No? :(


    When the chips are down catallus, the cream always rises to the top!

    Fcuking legend! :D


  • #41
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,484 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    Is kicking someone in the balls misandry?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcVI64IbkIs


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  • #42
    Iranoutofideas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Iranoutofideas


    Sexism against women in the media has been replaced by sexism against men.

    It is very prevalent in the advertising industry in particular. Every second ad these days portrays men as socially delinquent idiots who can barely walk and talk at the same time.

    Ditto for most sitcoms.


  • #43
    RobYourBuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Peppa Pig is an obvious example but there are many more if you look. 

    It's a kids cartoon, lads. No need to over analyse it. In one recent episode they were trying to get Daddy Pig to exercise and not eat so much junk food. Is that "fat shaming"?


  • #44
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    RobYourBuilder wrote: »
    It's a kids cartoon, lads. No need to over analyse it. In one recent episode they were trying to get Daddy Pig to exercise and not eat so much junk food. Is that "fat shaming"?
    You do know how suggestable kids are, right? Like the reason kids cartoons have things like exercising and not eating junk food is to show them how to live a healthy life. There are other messages like being nice and sharing and all but when there is something like that it gives kids the idea it's alright to treat your Dad like crap, or that all Daddies (and therefore all men) are useless.


  • #45
    Mister Vain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    mrkiscool2 wrote: »
    I'm a firm believer that misandrists and misogynists are way less prevalent than people make it out to be.

    I agree. The word misogyny in particular is thrown about far too often and its often unwarranted.


  • #46
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Yeah, I won't give any examples but boards is riddled with misandry, absolutely riddled. Hmm...or maybe that's just my perception...


  • #47
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    mrkiscool2 wrote: »
    You do know how suggestable kids are, right? Like the reason kids cartoons have things like exercising and not eating junk food is to show them how to live a healthy life. There are other messages like being nice and sharing and all but when there is something like that it gives kids the idea it's alright to treat your Dad like crap, or that all Daddies (and therefore all men) are useless.


    You know how cynical children are, right?

    That's why any of us who grew up on cartoons from 20 years ago still don't think it's a good idea to go dropping anvils on people's heads, etc. Children learn more from the people around them than they ever will from television or video games, and they don't stay children forever either.

    Using Peppa Pig as an example of how children will turn into mini-misandrists is just about as daft as people suggesting that Barney makes young boys turn gay when they're older!

    The ace up your sleeve - Diet Coke advert from 20 years ago, right?


  • #48
    RobYourBuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    RayM wrote: »
    It's pretty clear that Peppa Pig needs to be stopped before it does any more damage. And as for those adverts where men are portrayed as bumbling fools... Don't get me started.

    I must say, as a white, straight male, it is a testament to our strength and indefatigable resilience that we have overcome centuries of misandry, heterophobia and anti-white racism, to become the most dominant group in almost every facet of public life. I don't know how we did it, I really don't.

    I love that "The Strawman Argument" liked this.


  • #49
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Iranoutofideas wrote: »
    Sexism against women in the media has been replaced by sexism against men.

    It is very prevalent in the advertising industry in particular. Every second ad these days portrays men as socially delinquent idiots who can barely walk and talk at the same time.

    Ditto for most sitcoms.
    Yep IR, there is some of that out there alright and you know how I process it? I don't. I don't care. Not a single fcuk do I give. I certainly don't fall into a whinge fest, unless something directly impacts my life in a material way because of the location of my nads* and if and when that does happen, I don't whinge, I don't label it to "own it", nor buy into any of that weak tea hippie nonsense nor appeal to some external authoritaaay to protect my special snowflake sensibilities, I just fcuking deal with it, or ignore it for the guff it is. Mostly the latter. Some Guardian reading cosseted handwringer who thinks himself an artist writes men as daft in a sitcom or an ad for bogroll or whatever? Who gives a flying fcuk? Really guys. To give a fcuk should be beneath you.

    I put it in a wider context too. Sure, there are many of us, men and women alike reading this have their own shíte to deal with in their lives. Some of it objectively minimal, while some are dealing with some real life heavy duty crap. However, few of us will be going to bed hungry and cold and sick, few of us will be counting the days waiting for the grave. Some medja gobshíte crapping out BS for the mob kinda comes right down the line of crap we should care about. Not when a large chunk of our fellow humans on this planet go to bed hungry, sick, or dying tonight and for many nights, so a "sexist" sitcom, or some extremist twat on the interwebs is hardly worth getting too bloody wound up over.

    TL;DR? When the fcuk did we get so bloody sensitive, precious and condescending in equal parts? Let's all just endeavour to grow a pair, whether that be ovaries or testes and just hang out with people, not gender, nor some made up labels of bullshít and chill the fcuk out and look at the actual real life guff that fecks us over.



    *If I was going through a nasty divorce or I had an issue with access to kids that I don't have, then I'd come out angry and fighting, every step of the way. And I'd fight dirty if I had to. Have in the past on other matters.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #50
    ElvisChrist6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭ElvisChrist6


    RayM wrote: »
    It's pretty clear that Peppa Pig needs to be stopped before it does any more damage. And as for those adverts where men are portrayed as bumbling fools... Don't get me started.

    I must say, as a white, straight male, it is a testament to our strength and indefatigable resilience that we have overcome centuries of misandry, heterophobia and anti-white racism, to become the most dominant group in almost every facet of public life. I don't know how we did it, I really don't.

    White doesn't really come into it in this country. I honestly don't get why people seem to think the whites have it better in this country for being white. Ireland isn't race-fuelled unlike America or even Britain really.


  • #51
    ElvisChrist6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭ElvisChrist6


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Yeah, I won't give any examples but boards is riddled with misandry, absolutely riddled. Hmm...or maybe that's just my perception...

    The OP didn't say Boards was riddled with it and not give examples. They asked if it was more acceptable, which is a fair question whether you think it's a big deal or not, that can be answered with either a yes or a no.


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  • #52
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Check out "misandry in the media" videos on youtube. The guy who does them is irritating but it's hard to argue with him as he goes through loads and loads of tv ads in which men are depicted as buffoons and idiots.

    It's not a new trend either, look at pretty much any family sitcom: idiot father figure: fred flintsone, homer simpson, peter griffin, phil dunphy (modern family) vs sensible wife character.


  • #53
    Packrat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭Packrat


    ElvisChrist6 wrote: »
    The OP didn't say Boards was riddled with it and not give examples. They asked if it was more acceptable, which is a fair question whether you think it's a big deal or not, that can be answered with either a yes or a no.

    He's taking the piss out of another thread earlier this week.


  • #54
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Yep IR, there is some of that out there alright and you know how I process it? I don't. I don't care. Not a single fcuk do I give. I certainly don't fall into a whinge fest, unless something directly impacts my life in a material way because of the location of my nads* and if and when that does happen, I don't whinge, I don't label it to "own it", nor buy into any of that weak tea hippie nonsense nor appeal to some external authoritaaay to protect my special snowflake sensibilities, I just fcuking deal with it, or ignore it for the guff it is. Mostly the latter. Some Guardian reading cosseted handwringer who thinks himself an artist writes men as daft in a sitcom or an ad for bogroll or whatever? Who gives a flying fcuk? Really guys. To give a fcuk should be beneath you.

    I put it in a wider context too. Sure, there are many of us, men and women alike reading this have their own shíte to deal with in their lives. Some of it objectively minimal, while some are dealing with some real life heavy duty crap. However, few of us will be going to bed hungry and cold and sick, few of us will be counting the days waiting for the grave. Some medja gobshíte crapping out BS for the mob kinda comes right down the line of crap we should care about. Not when a large chunk of our fellow humans on this planet go to bed hungry, sick, or dying tonight and for many nights, so a "sexist" sitcom, or some extremist twat on the interwebs is hardly worth getting too bloody wound up over.

    TL;DR? When the fcuk did we get so bloody sensitive, precious and condescending in equal parts? Let's all just endeavour to grow a pair, whether that be ovaries or testes and just hang out with people, not gender, nor some made up labels of bullshít and chill the fcuk out and look at the actual real life guff that fecks us over.



    *If I was going through a nasty divorce or I had an issue with access to kids that I don't have, then I'd come out angry and fighting, every step of the way. And I'd fight dirty if I had to. Have in the past on other matters. [/good luck telling a female poster crying misogyny to "grow a pair" :D
    but that's right, men are men.


  • #55
    FloatingVoter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    I really have got better things to be getting on with than this. Beyond the purely biological, there is no difference between the male and female of the species. We are equally as likely to be smart, stupid, racist, homophobic, kind, cruel, rational, irrational and all at the same time in some cases.

    Inventing differences is a good excuse for selling self-help manuals to the bewildered. Show me the person who has a copy of Men are from Mars.....that they didn't get as an unwanted present and I'll bet they have five other books on how to become a millionaire overnight, lose weight effortlessly, think your way to success and so on. All half read and now used for propping up the wobbly kitchen table. Carpentry for Dummies was not a success.

    Writing hateful posts about the other 50% of the human race doesn't make you anything but an idiot. Lets not credit these idiots of both sexes with respectable sounding Latin titles.


  • #56
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,129 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    RobYourBuilder wrote: »
    It's a kids cartoon, lads. No need to over analyse it. In one recent episode they were trying to get Daddy Pig to exercise and not eat so much junk food. Is that "fat shaming"?


    And mrs rabbit is always popping out babies and don't forget mr bull breaking all the china in the china shop. Peppa pig is a hotbed of stereotypes and must be stopped!

    (Yes I have watched too many episodes of Peppa Pig :o)


  • #57
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    In-depth discussion can be had in Humanities

    Discussions on a toddlers cartoon can be had in Parenting or Childrens show forum. Respective mods can advise on suitability.


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