Dipped Headlights during the day

HamsterFace · 13-11-2014 05:50PM

It already is law in Mayo

The Backwards Man · 13-11-2014 06:07PM

mike_ie wrote: »

Huh? Running electrical items creates a higher draw on the alternator which in turn puts a slightly heavier load on the engine. A small load of course, but not completely insignificant.

Yeah, as would a 2g air freshener or a full bladder, but unless your car is dong 100mpg+ on a non stop trip to the moon it's not going to be very noticeable.

Bpmull · 13-11-2014 08:52PM

There would be no real need to make it law that you need to have dipped lights on all the time if people could use there lights probably. You'd swear it was rocket science if it's a nice sunny clear bright day you don't need them on. If it dull, dark, raining, foggy, really busy built up area or if vision is anyway impaired you should have your dips on. As simple as the above is so many irish people can't grasp the concept. So I think since people just can't understand how to use them it should be just made law for everyone to have dips on all he time thus simplifying the whole thing for those who can't understand the concept of using lights.

The_Valeyard · 13-11-2014 09:12PM

Ahh great......more laws. Probably want penalty points with it.

foxy farmer · 13-11-2014 09:14PM

What about side lights( parkers) and front fog lights?

Tail Docker · 13-11-2014 09:17PM

I drive around with my full beams on, day or night. People love it, they wave, flash and beep to show their appreciation. This should be made compulsory, no way anyone would miss you if everyone did this.

Cookie_Monster · 13-11-2014 09:20PM

It's just extra light pollution and extra fuel burnt for little or no overall gain.

Don't Chute! · 13-11-2014 09:33PM

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Vehicle%20Std%20Leg/Consultations/Daytime%20Running%20Lights%20Consultation.pdf

I use them all the time its not about seeing its about being seen. Fuel consumption? surely minimal. Cost of bulbs? about 2/3€. Light pollution? Lol.

dmc17 · 13-11-2014 10:00PM

Every morning I meet people with no lights on and it's still fairly dark. This morning 1 particular car was behind me with parking lights on (just the one though cause the other was blown!) Sure they may as well have had a feckin candle lighting on the dashboard.

Another phenomenon I've noticed with newer cars is that you can have front lights on or the rear lights on independently. What's the deal with this? I'm not sure the manufacturers really thought this one through.

topper75 · 13-11-2014 10:19PM

black and amber wrote: »

Light pollution? Lol.

Yeah we need to f*ck that nature b*tch up some more.
*does Beavis laugh*

Tazio · 13-11-2014 10:22PM

The year was 1994. I was driving Cork to Dublin.. (Remember the pre war.. Sorry pre motorway years??).

I pulled into a petol station to buy petrol and some old lad tells me I was driving during daylight hours with my lights on and said "..you mind your ESB now!"... Brilliant!

Actually flashback.. Remember when petrol stations sold petrol, oil, bulbs and filters only. The diesel pump was way off in some corner of the forecourt.. Ah them were the days.. Ha ha..

hairyprincess · 13-11-2014 10:24PM

I met quite a few cars yesterday morning and lorries, come to think of it, with no lights at all on and it was foggy. People give out about fog lights being on when there is no fog, I don't get that. I'd rather see them on all the time than not on when they should be!

yipeeeee · 13-11-2014 10:26PM

The amount of people driving on the m50, today with no lights on in torrential rain.

The mind boggles.

hairyprincess · 13-11-2014 10:26PM

I met quite a few cars yesterday morning and lorries, come to think of it, with no lights at all on and it was foggy. People give out about fog lights being on when there is no fog, I don't get that. I'd rather see them on all the time than not on when they should be!

hairyprincess · 13-11-2014 10:29PM

I met quite a few cars yesterday morning and lorries, come to think of it, with no lights at all on and it was foggy. People give out about fog lights being on when there is no fog, I don't get that. I'd rather see them on all the time than not on when they should be!

13-11-2014 10:52PM

The ones that piss me are those who insist on driving with sideparking lights on, they think that they're visible, but quite often the bicycle lights are brighter!

The daftest ones are those with newer cars that have DLR's but they switch the parking lights on and the DLR's operate in dim mode! So fúcking stupid and defeats the object of having them in the first place! :rolleyes:

wotswattage · 13-11-2014 10:54PM

All it takes is one dope to not see you and pull out into your path over the course of your entire driving career. Could be 50+ years!
I think it's just as important to have dipped beams on a bright sunny day where glare may be an issue.

13-11-2014 10:54PM

paulbok wrote: »

No enforcement needed, make it compulsory for the manufacturers to make their lights come on dipped when the engine is running.

New cars have DLR's that come on when the engine is running already, what they need to do is remove the "sidelight" position from the switch.

ted1 · 13-11-2014 10:55PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Headlights are a major tdrain on fuel consumption, like indicators and clean windscreens. Silly idea.

It has being proven to safe lives, nothing silly about it

mad muffin · 13-11-2014 11:03PM

ted1 wrote: »

It has being proven to safe lives, nothing silly about it

Look, I don't want to be that guy… no… I won't be that guy!

Skylinehead · 13-11-2014 11:12PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The ones that piss me are those who insist on driving with sideparking lights on, they think that they're visible, but quite often the bicycle lights are brighter!

I don't get the point of parking lights. Too dim for driving, and nobody uses them for their original purpose (leaving them on in a parked car).

13-11-2014 11:21PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

I don't get the point of parking lights. Too dim for driving, and nobody uses them for their original purpose (leaving them on in a parked car).

I think that they're a hangover from the WWII blackout laws, so that the Luftwaffe can't see you driving at night, some drivers seem to still have that mentality.

Skylinehead · 13-11-2014 11:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think that they're a hangover from the WWII blackout laws, so that the Luftwaffe can't see you driving at night, some drivers seem to still have that mentality.

Well you never know when a Messerschmidt is going to come screaming out of the sky at you.

14-11-2014 12:20AM

Skylinehead wrote: »

Well you never know when a Messerschmidt is going to come screaming out of the sky at you.

I'd be more worried about the Stukas tbh. :P

DEFTLEFTHAND · 14-11-2014 12:27AM

Speaking of Swedish laws Volvo's used to/still do? come equipped with this feature. Once the engine starts the lights come on and stay lit, no off switch.

statto25 · 14-11-2014 12:31AM

HamsterFace wrote: »

It already is law in Mayo

How is it law in Mayo and not in the rest of the country?

Wibbs · 14-11-2014 12:41AM

Skylinehead wrote: »

Well you never know when a Messerschmidt is going to come screaming out of the sky at you.

You must crap yourself when you see a BMW, Audi or Merc on the roads then.

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd be more worried about the Stukas tbh. :P

Yea, those feckers were accurate. Man if I ever win the euromillions(if I ever buy a ticket), I swear to ye now, I will rebuild a Stuka to flying order. And will paint it psychedelic dayglow and have great craic screaming down at 90 degrees releasing stinkbombs. The Dail looks like a winner as a target.

Me, I always switch on my lights, summer, winter, hail, rain or shine. I reckon it it has saved me in the past, because people saw me coming..

Skylinehead · 14-11-2014 12:51AM

Wibbs wrote: »

You must crap yourself when you see a BMW, Audi or Merc on the roads then.

Gotta be wary of them lot not indicating :pac:

Yea, those feckers were accurate. Man if I ever win the euromillions(if I ever buy a ticket), I swear to ye now, I will rebuild a Stuka to flying order. And will paint it psychedelic dayglow and have great craic screaming down at 90 degrees releasing stinkbombs. The Dail looks like a winner as a target.

Me, I always switch on my lights, summer, winter, hail, rain or shine. I reckon it it has saved me in the past, because people saw me coming..

Forgot Junkers made the Stuka. I have a Stuka model I made about 12 years ago in my room in my parents house still, in its classic dive profile :cool:

Funny that the Allies didn't really deploy anything similar in numbers. There was a modified Mustang but it wasn't mass produced. Was there simply no need for them?

Wibbs · 14-11-2014 01:06AM

The Germans took divebombing to their hearts SH. The Luftwaffe were an addition to their army ground forces rather than a strategic concern. So divebombers being about as accurate as you could get back then were seen as flying artillery. The German army were about the first who could call in airstrikes of their positions and expect that they'd work. Your JU87 could take out targets within a 10 metre radius, far above what the allied bombers could muster, even by the end of the war. Though this went against them too, as they tried to make other aircraft in their fleet work as divebombers.

The allies certainly experimented with the idea and had a few examples, but not to nearly the same degree. Test pilot Eric Brown who had flown all of the allied divebomber types said that the Stuka was far and away the most stable and best of the type. Apparently happiest at 90 degrees straight down. Given there were never more than 400 of them in service at any time in the war, their impact and reputation was far in excess of their numbers. They did a huge amount of damage to allied, men, tanks, emplacements and shipping. You really didn't want to be a grunt on the ground the object of a Stuka attack. And contrary to belief they weren't nearly as vulnerable as other bombers the Germans had.

And that folks, is how a thread goes off topic and gets weird.

Waaaay back in the day, I was lucky enough to get very close up and personal with the UK Imperial war museum one. One of only two complete examples left in the world. One thing that hits you is that it's a big fcuker. Much bigger than say a Spitfire or Mustang.

Kevin McCloud · 14-11-2014 01:12AM

Dipped headlights on planes driving on the road should be mandatory.

Dipped Headlights during the day

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