Automatic 1 Year ban for causing crash on M50?

BoJack Horseman · 13-11-2014 03:24PM

Caliden wrote: »

Aquaplaned. Most likely had **** tyres.

Every tyre has a grading indicator for wet weather performance.

I'd pass a law today requiring a minimum of a 'C' grade for use on Irish roads.

paulbok · 13-11-2014 03:25PM

Topper Harley wrote: »

Yeah, fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

I take it you didn't notice the almost citywide traffic chaos caused by 1 lorryload of hay being on fire on the M50 N a few weeks back?

micosoft · 13-11-2014 03:25PM

The big issue is tailgaters. Today in appalling weather you had people with no lights cruising less then two metres off my tailgate at 80 (traffic ahead so that was the limit I could go at).

The guards need to stick a car on the M50 (estate) with rear-facing camera and distance monitor. Anyone who closes in less then a car length when over 30km gets an automatic fine and penalty points. If they did that for a couple of months I'd say you'd eliminate the bulk of accidents and create a nice revenue stream to buy a couple of new cars for them.....

recylingbin · 13-11-2014 03:26PM

The Davestator wrote: »

The only reason you can crash into someone is beacuse you are not driving with due care.

or a blowout.
or mechanical failure.
or a sneeze(nearly did this myself once)
or avoiding a dangerous driver.
or a scumbag dropping a concrete block onto your windscreen from the bridge above,

There are plenty of reasons. they're called accidents after all.

BoJack Horseman · 13-11-2014 03:26PM

paulbok wrote: »

I take it you didn't notice the almost citywide traffic chaos caused by 1 lorryload of hay being on fire on the M50 N a few weeks back?

Or 2 guys sitting down in the road on O'Connell street with Guy Fawkes masks bringing the centre to a halt.

Traffic chaos is very simple to achieve.

The Backwards Man · 13-11-2014 03:27PM

I agree.

Accidents are only ever caused by other people, and as I am the world's greatest driver and will never ever make a mistake or cause an incident ever this wouldn't impact on me and only other people.

Ban them all, Judge Dredd style.

13-11-2014 03:28PM

Tailgaters and lack of indicating are pretty big ones. That and people refusing to merge at more than half the speed the rest of the traffic is doing

And then half the disruption afterwards is people slowing down to rubberneck. gtfo

The Davestator · 13-11-2014 03:31PM

recylingbin wrote: »

or a blowout.
or mechanical failure.
or a sneeze(nearly did this myself once)
or avoiding a dangerous driver.
or a scumbag dropping a concrete block onto your windscreen from the bridge above,

There are plenty of reasons. they're called accidents after all.

Hmmm. I'll amend my legislation to include some of this. Want to be my deputy transport minister?

The Backwards Man · 13-11-2014 03:31PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Tailgaters and lack of indicating are pretty big ones. That and people refusing to merge at more than half the speed the rest of the traffic is doing

And then half the disruption afterwards is people slowing down to rubberneck. gtfo

The biggest factor in tailbacks is actually people braking to avoid the car in front, and then accelerating at varying speeds causing a concertina effect.

Ban brake and accelerator pedals, and we're on a winner.

The Davestator · 13-11-2014 03:32PM

It's normally idiots looking at their phone who go into the back of someone. Definite ban for them.

con___manx1 · 13-11-2014 03:36PM

castletownman wrote: »

I firmly believe that instead of having a MAX speed limit, they should have a speed threshold on roads (so say instead of 50KM, would be 40-60KM or whatever). Should lessen the number of ridiculously slow drivers, and thus lead to less frustrated drivers getting impatient and attempting an overtaking maneouver in a dangerous part of the road.

I'd love to see the statistics of "Sunday drivers" causing road-rage.

50/60k would be better.stuck behind someone doing 40 in a 60 zone would do my head in unless the driving conditions are bad

Putinovsky · 13-11-2014 03:45PM

Its common practice to slow down if there's an accident on side of the road, not necessarily always 'rubber neckers'

anncoates · 13-11-2014 03:48PM

It stands to reason that when there's torrential rain and a half inch of surface water on the motorway, you increase your speed.

smash · 13-11-2014 03:50PM

Bet there'll be a "safety" van there this evening to stop these crashes!

Bummer1234 · 13-11-2014 03:53PM

smash wrote: »

Bet there'll be a "safety" van there this evening to stop these crashes!

If the traffic is to go on what it was this morning Southbound...Then the "safety" van laser won't go very high!

Dial Hard · 13-11-2014 03:54PM

Putinovsky wrote: »

Its common practice to slow down if there's an accident on side of the road, not necessarily always 'rubber neckers'

Mmm hmm, so explain the inevitable massive delays on the opposite carriageway, then?

KungPao · 13-11-2014 03:55PM

The 49 and 51 are even worse.

Giruilla · 13-11-2014 04:02PM

There should be penalty points for anyone grinding to halt in the left lane to queue hop into an exit lane they could have joined a kilometre back.

Topper Harley · 13-11-2014 04:07PM

paulbok wrote: »

I take it you didn't notice the almost citywide traffic chaos caused by 1 lorryload of hay being on fire on the M50 N a few weeks back?

I was aware of it but it didn't affect me.

The J Stands for Jay · 13-11-2014 06:52PM

Topper Harley wrote: »

Yeah, fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

Who ya gonna call to fix that?

Topper Harley · 13-11-2014 07:29PM

McGaggs wrote: »

Who ya gonna call to fix that?

I don't know. I'm just not sure if these guys can cut it anymore! :eek:

13-11-2014 07:30PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

The biggest factor in tailbacks is actually people braking to avoid the car in front, and then accelerating at varying speeds causing a concertina effect.

Ban brake and accelerator pedals, and we're on a winner.

Yeah, tailgaters who misjudge, hit the brakes, car behind is too close and brakes a bit causing a knock on effect, then they accelerate and brake again. Load of nonsense. Proper safety distance and you can react by taking your foot off first and braking after if necessary

Dravokivich · 13-11-2014 08:58PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

The biggest factor in tailbacks is actually people braking to avoid the car in front, and then accelerating at varying speeds causing a concertina effect.

Ban brake and accelerator pedals, and we're on a winner.

Concertina effect....

...David Coulthard is that you?

Holsten · 13-11-2014 09:42PM

Yes! 100% yes!

If you cause a disruption on the M50 you cannot drive safely and should be taken off the road for a period of time. Motorway driving should never have any disruptions or crashes. There was what, 3 or 4 different problems on the M50 today that lead to HUGE traffic jams.

Idiots of the highest order, driving too slow, not indicating, rubbernecking, driving in the incorrect lane.... ugh!

artful_codger · 13-11-2014 10:39PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Something out of a drivers control?

If the wheel was to come off as a result of an unknown fault on their vehicle, would you consider it was them who caused the crash?

If you're driving the sort of car that just loses wheels, then you either haven't had it serviced in years, or have no NCT cert, or both.

1 year ban *Judges hammer comes down*

Beano · 13-11-2014 11:21PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Something out of a drivers control?

If the wheel was to come off as a result of an unknown fault on their vehicle, would you consider it was them who caused the crash?

and how many times does that happen compared to people being dozy f*cks who cant concentrate for more than a minute at a time and run up the arse of the car in front?

Beano · 13-11-2014 11:24PM

recylingbin wrote: »

or a blowout.
or mechanical failure.
or a sneeze(nearly did this myself once)
or avoiding a dangerous driver.
or a scumbag dropping a concrete block onto your windscreen from the bridge above,

There are plenty of reasons. they're called accidents after all.

Not paying attention to what you are doing and hitting somebody is not an accident. its careless driving.

Dravokivich · 14-11-2014 09:49AM

Beano wrote: »

and how many times does that happen compared to people being dozy f*cks who cant concentrate for more than a minute at a time and run up the arse of the car in front?

It's actually happened to a friend's dad's car. The point though wasn't about the particular scenario, but of an incident caused, that was not directly a result of the driving.

gandalf · 14-11-2014 10:24AM

The M50 has seen a massive increase in Traffic since March this year. There is an awful lot more people using it.

The main problem for me are the tailgaters, especially some of the Van Drivers who think they have to be nearly touching your bumper.

Also the guys cutting in at the last minute on off ramps need to be addressed as well especially around the Naas Road off ramp and the Sandyford one. You always have a knobjockey trying to sneak in at the last minute from the outside lane and typically blocking that lane creating the potential for a collision.

Rubberneckers why do people do it. I was on the M50 around 7 years ago when rubberneckers slowing down looking at an accident around a km from the Ballinteer exit Northbound caused a worse accident on the Southbound lane that I narrowly avoided being involved in (I still don't know how I did, I guess I was lucky as I was in the centre lane and there was no car beside me in the outside lane when the collision occurred in the inside lane).

Automatic 1 Year ban for causing crash on M50?

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