The amount of misogyny on boards these days is frightening.Mod instruction in OP

Chunners · 08-11-2014 05:23AM

masculinist wrote: »

I am not anti what feminism used to be. However I am anti what it has become.

I am an Egalitarian however just like Feminism in its original incarnation had a purpose in life so do mens rights at this particular time

This is an original Feminist, an equity Feminist i.e an egalitarian who realises this, Christina Hoff Summers and who now campaigns for mens rights and against the poison of man hating. Sadly her type is in the minority.

Never heard of Ayn Rand then?

masculinist · 08-11-2014 05:25AM

dark crystal wrote: »

I think it's pretty obvious, given the posts involved, but never mind.

It will be a cold day in hell when you can show me one bigoted post from my end.The very fact you insinuate it yet cannot prove it shows your bias extremely clearly. The public is not that stupid.

dark crystal · 08-11-2014 05:25AM

masculinist wrote: »

I dont care what happens to him. However I do care when legal systems and social prejudices are not gender blind and instead discriminate.

http://www.fighting4fair.com/uncategorized/hope-solo-case-exemplifies-rank-hypocrisy-re-domestic-violence/

extract:

So, she was arrested and charged then? Great!

Chunners · 08-11-2014 05:29AM

dark crystal wrote: »

I think it's pretty obvious, given the posts involved, but never mind.

If you did eat rats, that would be pretty yukky!

But it's not obvious, his name was masculinist before this thread started, you are engaging in the assumption that he called himself masculinist in anticipation of this thread so does he have a crystal ball or something?

masculinist · 08-11-2014 05:36AM

dark crystal wrote: »

So, she was arrested and charged then? Great!

Why are you being so bigoted ? Or am I crediting you with more intelligence than you deserve ?

I clearly showed how there were no calls for her to lose her job etc [unlike when a man was involved in a less serious incident] despite the fact she assaulted a minor. 'The response to Solo losing it on her relatives, one a minor, was silence. No demands for her to be barred from her sport indefinitely, no calls for the National Women’s Soccer League president’s resignation for failing to act aggressively enough to satisfy social justice warriors who in a bizarrely male hating way only care about female victims if the perpetrators are male. Hence the way feminism ignores lesbian on lesbian violence which is actually far greater than heterosexual domestic violence.

http://lady-of-anti-feminism.tumblr.com/post/78622128314/debunk-feminism

extract:

Domestic Violence

Women are perpetrators often as men.
286 sources on assaults on partners by women
Women are more violent
Domestic violence being equally committed by women, only males get arrested
Men are over 40% of domestic abuse victims
Male DV victims are discriminated against
Gay and bisexual men experience abuse in intimate partner relationships at a rate of 2 in 5, which is comparable to the amount of domestic violence experienced by heterosexual women.
About 17-45% of lesbians report having been the victim of a least one act of physical violence perpetrated by a lesbian partner (1,5,6,13).
Men or DV is Not the leading cause of death among women under 50
More DV facts

I have zero problem with people receiving justice but I do have a problem when that justice is not fairly distributed, when that justice is sexist. In that case it is not justice at all.

dark crystal · 08-11-2014 05:37AM

Chunners wrote: »

But it's not obvious, his name was masculinist before this thread started, you are engaging in the assumption that he called himself masculinist in anticipation of this thread so does he have a crystal ball or something?

Not at all; must have been a type-o on my part. Still, the posts in this this thread have been uncannily like:

masculinist
ˈmaskjʊlɪnɪst/
adjective
adjective: masculinist; adjective: masculist

1.
characterized by or denoting attitudes or values held to be typical of men.
"masculinist language"

noun
noun: masculinist; plural noun: masculinists; noun: masculist; plural noun: masculists

1.
an advocate of the rights or needs of men.
"new masculinists"

Weird coincidence he chooses such a random username, given the views he hold and all, eh?

masculinist · 08-11-2014 05:40AM

dark crystal wrote: »

Weird coincidence he chooses such a random username, given the views he hold and all, eh?

You appear to have issues concerning masculinity. My name was I assure you quite random.

ceadaoin. · 08-11-2014 05:46AM

masculinist wrote: »

I dont care what happens to him so long as it is just. However I do care when legal systems and social prejudices are not gender blind and instead discriminate.

http://www.fighting4fair.com/uncategorized/hope-solo-case-exemplifies-rank-hypocrisy-re-domestic-violence/

extract:

So one female athlete was arrested for domestic violence which she was charged with but hasn't yet gone to trial. There are people saying that she should be dropped from her team if she is found guilty by the way. And she should be. For example

http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/11125666/jim-caple-says-hope-solo-chances-espnw

An interesting quote from that article

KIRKLAND, Wash. -- If Hope Solo played football rather than women's soccer, her career probably wouldn't be in jeopardy.

After all, her husband, former tight end Jerramy Stevens, assaulted another student in 1998 as a senior in high school yet still received a scholarship to play at the University of Washington. At the UW, he was arrested in 2000 in the investigation of an alleged rape -- he was never charged, but several years later his attorney made an out-of-court civil settlement with the accuser -- and drove his truck into a retirement home in 2001. Yet, he stayed on the team and was drafted by the NFL, playing 202 games from 2002 to 2010 despite two DUIs.

Two years ago, Stevens also was arrested on suspicion of domestic violence against Solo during a party at a residence. Charges eventually were dropped because of insufficient evidence -- and either there was no violence against her or she, too, excused this behavior because she married him the next day.

In contrast, 83 NFL players were arrested on domestic violence charges in the past 14 years. Most of those weren't suspended from the NFL. Most of those barely even made the news. Ray Rice wasn't even banned until the video showing his guilt was made public. Doesn't sound like the system is biased against men really and it would seem that the NFL in the past has been lenient on players who are domestic abusers and criminals in general.

dark crystal · 08-11-2014 05:48AM

masculinist wrote: »

Why are you being so bigoted ? Or am I crediting you with more intelligence than you deserve ?

I clearly showed how there were no calls for her to lose her job etc [unlike when a man was involved in a less serious incident] despite the fact she assaulted a minor. 'The response to Solo losing it on her relatives, one a minor, was silence. No demands for her to be barred from her sport indefinitely, no calls for the National Women’s Soccer League president’s resignation for failing to act aggressively enough to satisfy social justice warriors who in a bizarrely male hating way only care about female victims if the perpetrators are male. Hence the way feminism ignores lesbian on lesbian violence which is actually far greater than heterosexual domestic violence.

http://lady-of-anti-feminism.tumblr.com/post/78622128314/debunk-feminism

extract:

I have zero problem with people receiving justice but I do have a problem when that justice is not fairly distributed, when that justice is sexist. In that case it is not justice at all.

By uncanny coincidence, I actually started the thread on Ray Rice. He wasn't suspended from the team until the footage was released. In fact, his manager called him a 'great guy' after the incident in which he knocked his fiancee unconscious.

You would class this as a less serious incident though? Even though Hope Solo's facing possibe jail time, as opposed to Rice, whose wife apologised for him?

masculinist · 08-11-2014 05:48AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

So one female athlete was arrested for domestic violence which she was charged with but hasn't yet gone to trial. There are people saying that she should be dropped from her team if she is found guilty by the way. And she should be.
.

No there is not. The outcry is for the man to be dropped from his team but not a word about the female who does something worse e.g attacks a minor with a broomhandle. Nobody calls for her to lose her livlihood

masculinist · 08-11-2014 05:51AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

83 NFL players were arrested on domestic violence charges in the past 10 years. A rate that is above the national average. Most of those weren't suspended from the NFL. Most of those barely even made the news. Ray Rice wasn't even banned until the video showing his guilt was made public. Doesn't sound like the system is biased against men really and it would seem that the NFL in the past has not been tough on criminals.

Let me just drop this brick of logic in here from someone I linked to earlier:

"Ladies - if you think a world without men would be some kind of utopian paradise. I'd like to remind you of a few things.
1, Female rulers have been as likely to go to war OR rule a brutal regime as male leaders: Margaret Thatcher, Sammuramat, Cleopatra, Joan of Arc, Isabella I of Castile, Mary Queen of Scots, Elizabeth I, Amina, Mbande Nzinga, Catherine the Great, Queen Victoria, Liliuokalani, Golda Meir, Indira Gandhi.
2, Lesbian relationships have higher, rates of domestic violence to heterosexual relationships:
3, Lesbians report higher rates of sexual assault/rape committed against them by other women than what feminists claim men do to women.
( https://www.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml )
According to Dr. Suzana Rose, Ph.D.University of Missouri at St. Louis, National Violence Against Women Prevention Research Center
( http://www.pandys.org/articles/lesbiandomesticviolence.html )
"Perhaps surprisingly, statistics have shown that lesbian people experience domestic violence at a very similar rate to that of heterosexual women (Waldner-Haygrud, 1997; AVP, 1992). It has been estimated that between 17-45% of lesbians have been the victim of at least one act of violence perpetrated by a female partner (Burke et al, 1999; Lie et al, 1991), and that 30% of lesbians have reported sexual assault / rape by another woman (Renzetti, 1992). Considering the lack of discussion that takes place regarding lesbian domestic violence and sexual assault, I find these figures staggering."
( http://lesbianlife.about.com/.../lesbi.../a/DVFactsMyths.htm )
Relationships: Same-Sex Battering Statistics, Facts and Myths. Written by Kathy Belge "Lesbian Life Expert" states the following: "The typical image of a battered woman is a heterosexual woman attempting to hide a black eye in the grocery store. But domestic violence does not just happen to straight couples. Domestic violence statistics show that violence is just as prevalent in gay and lesbian relationships as it is in heterosexual couples. In fact, 30% of couples struggle with domestic violence of some sort."
So ladies: before you go spouting all your "If the world were just women we'd all frolic happily with unkempt bush" bull**** - check your ego at the f***** door.
Female rulers have never been any less likely to go to war, or run brutal regimes and lesbian relationships suffer the same level, degree and frequency of domestic violence as heterosexual relationships. If you have any illusions to the contrary: you're just being a sexist hypocrite.
In a world without men: all this **** - would be almost exactly the same. In fact, if the specie were to have evolved without males - all perfectly XX chromosome with one ovary and one testicle and therefore self insemination.... this place would be almost exactly the same. Why? Simple - amongst lesbians you -still- have masculine and feminine personalities. You still have archetypical males and archetypical females - in spite of them lacking a Y chromosome. Butch women, aside from their tackle box, are basically dudes. They -think- like men, thought processes and the way they interpret information in a more masculine way. They're more logical and less emotional.
So even if the specie restarted and history played itself out with no Y chromosome: we'd still be exactly where we are. You'd still have muslims and christians and the same mythos and the same battles, etc. etc.
So stow your bull**** you chauvinist sexist hypocrites.
The ultimate Irony: Lesbians reporting that they'd been sexually assaulted/raped by other women - occur at a higher level than women in general reporting that they'd been raped by a man. 1-3 Lesbians will be raped or sexually assaulted by a woman. Meanwhile the greater macrocosm of women: even the most bull**** of studies conducted says that 1-4 women will be raped or sexually assaulted by a man.
Check your ego ladies: in a world without men - there's MORE RAPE and MORE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. So stick that in your little pipe and smoke it."

dark crystal · 08-11-2014 05:54AM

masculinist wrote: »

No there is not. The outcry is for the man to be dropped from his team but not a word about the female who does something worse e.g attacks a minor with a broomhandle. Nobody calls for her to lose her livlihood

You think hitting a 17 year old with a broom handle is worse than punching someone unconscious?

Ok...

By the way, Hope is facing worse consequences than than Ray is.

masculinist · 08-11-2014 06:02AM

dark crystal wrote: »

You think hitting a 17 year old with a broom handle is worse than punching someone unconscious?

Ok...

By the way, Hope is facing worse consequences than than Ray is.

What you focus on shows how bigoted you are. I am asking why no equality regardless of gender, while you only attempt miserably to distract away from this quest for equality between all peoples regardless of gender. She attacked a minor and another woman. Instead of caring why there were no calls for her to receive equal treatment to the NFL star, you downplay an attack on someone who is a minor as well as another innocent female. Why I wonder. Because the poison of this latest wave of toxic feminism has infected you. it has left you unable to empathise with the victims, the minor and the lady who were attacked with a broomhandle. And since you cannot empathise with them or maybe cannot hate the female perpetrator as much as you hate the NFL star for being male, because of this , you do not cry out for the same justice for one as for the other. This is the problem with toxic feminism.

ceadaoin. · 08-11-2014 06:03AM

masculinist wrote: »

Let me just drop this brick of logic in here from someone I linked to earlier:

"Ladies - if you think a world without men would be some kind of utopian paradise. I'd like to remind you of a few things.
1, Female rulers have been as likely to go to war OR rule a brutal regime as male leaders: Margaret Thatcher, Sammuramat, Cleopatra, Joan of Arc, Isabella I of Castile, Mary Queen of Scots, Elizabeth I, Amina, Mbande Nzinga, Catherine the Great, Queen Victoria, Liliuokalani, Golda Meir, Indira Gandhi.
2, Lesbian relationships have higher, rates of domestic violence to heterosexual relationships:
3, Lesbians report higher rates of sexual assault/rape committed against them by other women than what feminists claim men do to women.
( https://www.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml )
According to Dr. Suzana Rose, Ph.D.University of Missouri at St. Louis, National Violence Against Women Prevention Research Center
( http://www.pandys.org/articles/lesbiandomesticviolence.html )
"Perhaps surprisingly, statistics have shown that lesbian people experience domestic violence at a very similar rate to that of heterosexual women (Waldner-Haygrud, 1997; AVP, 1992). It has been estimated that between 17-45% of lesbians have been the victim of at least one act of violence perpetrated by a female partner (Burke et al, 1999; Lie et al, 1991), and that 30% of lesbians have reported sexual assault / rape by another woman (Renzetti, 1992). Considering the lack of discussion that takes place regarding lesbian domestic violence and sexual assault, I find these figures staggering."
( http://lesbianlife.about.com/.../lesbi.../a/DVFactsMyths.htm )
Relationships: Same-Sex Battering Statistics, Facts and Myths. Written by Kathy Belge "Lesbian Life Expert" states the following: "The typical image of a battered woman is a heterosexual woman attempting to hide a black eye in the grocery store. But domestic violence does not just happen to straight couples. Domestic violence statistics show that violence is just as prevalent in gay and lesbian relationships as it is in heterosexual couples. In fact, 30% of couples struggle with domestic violence of some sort."
So ladies: before you go spouting all your "If the world were just women we'd all frolic happily with unkempt bush" bull**** - check your ego at the f***** door.
Female rulers have never been any less likely to go to war, or run brutal regimes and lesbian relationships suffer the same level, degree and frequency of domestic violence as heterosexual relationships. If you have any illusions to the contrary: you're just being a sexist hypocrite.
In a world without men: all this **** - would be almost exactly the same. In fact, if the specie were to have evolved without males - all perfectly XX chromosome with one ovary and one testicle and therefore self insemination.... this place would be almost exactly the same. Why? Simple - amongst lesbians you -still- have masculine and feminine personalities. You still have archetypical males and archetypical females - in spite of them lacking a Y chromosome. Butch women, aside from their tackle box, are basically dudes. They -think- like men, thought processes and the way they interpret information in a more masculine way. They're more logical and less emotional.
So even if the specie restarted and history played itself out with no Y chromosome: we'd still be exactly where we are. You'd still have muslims and christians and the same mythos and the same battles, etc. etc.
So stow your bull**** you chauvinist sexist hypocrites.
The ultimate Irony: Lesbians reporting that they'd been sexually assaulted/raped by other women - occur at a higher level than women in general reporting that they'd been raped by a man. 1-3 Lesbians will be raped or sexually assaulted by a woman. Meanwhile the greater macrocosm of women: even the most bull**** of studies conducted says that 1-4 women will be raped or sexually assaulted by a man.
Check your ego ladies: in a world without men - there's MORE RAPE and MORE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. So stick that in your little pipe and smoke it."

Well I can hardly make sense of that wall of badly formatted text. A quick scan seems to suggest it is completely unrelated to what I said.

My point was the NFL has a problem with domestic violence offenses which have until now been treated leniently. The reason there was outrage about Ray Rice was because of the shocking video that showed him knocking out his fiancée and dragging her out of a lift. There were dozens of other cases before then which passed by equally as quietly as Hope Solo's.

dark crystal · 08-11-2014 06:05AM

masculinist wrote: »

What you focus on shows how bigoted you are. I am asking why no equality, you distracting away from the quest for equality. She attacked a minor and another woman. Instead of caring why there were no calls for her to receive equal treatment to the NFL star, you downplay an attack on someone who is a minor as well as another innocent female. Why I wonder. Because the poison of this latest wave of feminism has infected you.

Is Hope Solo facing jail time?

Did Ray Rice face jail time?

Not downplaying anything at all. Both crimes are horrendeous, but one crime is facing worse penalties than another. Fair?

ceadaoin. · 08-11-2014 06:06AM

masculinist wrote: »

What you focus on shows how bigoted you are. I am asking why no equality regardless of gender, while you only attempt miserably to distract away from this quest for equality between all peoples regardless of gender. She attacked a minor and another woman. Instead of caring why there were no calls for her to receive equal treatment to the NFL star, you downplay an attack on someone who is a minor as well as another innocent female. Why I wonder. Because the poison of this latest wave of toxic feminism has infected you. it has left you unable to empathise with the victims, the minor and the lady who were attacked with a broomhandle. And since you cannot empathise with them or maybe cannot hate the female perpetrator as much as you hate the NFL star for being male, because of this , you do not cry out for the same justice for one as for the other. This is the problem with toxic feminism.

A quick search will reveal plenty of articles calling for Hope Solo to be dropped from her team.

dark crystal wrote: »

Is Hope Solo facing jail time?

Did Ray Rice face jail time?

Not downplaying anything at all. Both crimes are horrendeous, but one crime is facing worse penalties than another. Fair?

He was facing jail time but avoided it by doing some anger management/domestic violence program instead.

masculinist · 08-11-2014 06:15AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

A quick search will reveal plenty of articles calling for Hope Solo to be dropped from her team.

I will be watching to see what happens.

Just look at the state of America with Feminism in general. I pity young men in college campuses these days surrounded by such nonsense and hate for no reason other than the way they were born.

Last time I checked the news reports, last month when I had a little more free time [which reminds me I have to go to sleep now], no feminist organization has lobbied against "Yes Means Yes", but has in fact lobbied -for- it, in spite of the fact that it codifies into law on college campuses a preponderance of evidence standard which enables allegations leveled at students to be denied their civil liberties and kicked off campus. The same way Judith Grossman's son was. One cannot openly lobby and support laws which violate the civil liberties of men, without omitting to have a hostility and or hatred for men. If feminists, as their rhetoric says, for equality in spite of gender: they instead would be protesting the codification of such an gender biased law. This is mainstream feminism. Out there in the open for all its bigotry to be seen and felt

Now check this out:

"You want to see "rape culture" little one?
In “When Men Are Raped” By Hanna Rosin
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_rape_in_america_a_new_study_reveals_that_men_are_sexually_assaulted.html
“Data hasn’t been calculated under the new FBI definition yet, but Stemple parses several other national surveys in her new paper, “The Sexual Victimization of Men in America: New Data Challenge Old Assumptions,” co-written with Ilan Meyer and published in the April 17 edition of the American Journal of Public Health. One of those surveys is the 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, for which the Centers for Disease Control invented a category of sexual violence called “being made to penetrate.” This definition includes victims who were forced to penetrate someone else with their own body parts, either by physical force or coercion, or when the victim was drunk or high or otherwise unable to consent. When those cases were taken into account, the rates of nonconsensual sexual contact basically equalized, with 1.270 million women and 1.267 million men claiming to be victims of sexual violence.”
Mary P. Koss, you know - from the fake 1/4 women rape statistic, same woman. In the above CDC report “Made to penetrate” having been added to their roster of classifications, we have Mary Koss to thank. She lobbied the CDC to exclude male victims of female predators as being classified as “rape.” Now if you ask the common person – if you are made to have sex with someone by being physically forced, or forced at gunpoint/knife point, coerced with threats of violence, you are unconscious, roofied, comatose or any other form of incapacitation whereby you are incapable of providing consent or the sexual activity is committed directly against your will – is that rape? The vast majority of people would say yes, that is rape. Anytime someone conducts sex with you either against your consent or while you are incapable of providing consent – it is rape.
Not according, to the CDC. Due to the actions taken by Mary Koss “made to penetrate” was created so that male victims of female predators could be discluded, by definition, from being “raped”. Therefore she could tout feminist statistics on female rape victims while completely excluding figures of males having been raped by women.
According to the CDC a man cannot be raped by a woman even if he is physically forced, forced at gunpoint/knife point, coerced with threats, comatose, intoxicated, passed out, roofied or otherwise incapacitated by any other means. By legal definition he cannot be raped by a woman – no matter what. It’s instead referred to as “made to penetrate” and is therefore constituted as a form of sexual assault – but not rape.
Lets use a recent example, Ciera Ross. Ross, 25, stopped and asked the 33-year-old man if he wanted a ride. The man took the offer, but Ross’ true intentions became evident when she pulled a gun on the man. She forced the man to go to the backseat and told him to have sex with her friend. The man pleaded for the women to stop after they made him fondle the woman’s breasts and butt.
Ross then ordered the man to take his clothes off and her friend began to assault him sexually. The women also took $200 and credit cards from the man. When he spotted a taxi, he ran from the car naked and jumped in the taxi, the taxi driver allowed him to use his cell phone to capture the plate number of Ross's vehicle and alert the police.
According to the FBI, and anyone with two brain cells to rub together: this is rape. This is clearly and undeniably, unabashedly: RAPE. You threaten someone at gunpoint and force them to perform sex. That is rape by any reasonable, rational, logical definition of the term, that is RAPE. According to the CDC, that is not rape - that is "made to penetrate", a LESSER sexual assault than rape.
Thanks to Feminist Mary P Koss's work with the CDC: "NO Means No", no longer applies to men. If there is a "rape culture", feminists are creating it.
Once again this was done strictly so that Koss could publish intentionally tampered and gender biased research data on the rate at which victims are raped. You see, having a number of males victimized equal to that of women doesn’t look good when you’re trying to talk about “patriarchy” and the inherent “rape culture” found in it, which has a narrative that all men are potential rapists and all women are potential victims.
If there was a male dominated rape culture: rape would have been made legal before women could vote... Feminists however.... have gone through some very shady and underhanded tactics to conceal the rate at which men are raped by women - and gone so far as to reclassify the definition ofv terms to exclude men as being able to be raped by women. Just so that they could publish altered statistics.
Now you want to talk to me about "rape culture" ? Feminists - are the ones creating a rape culture.
You want more proof? Child support laws, largely created by and lobbied by feminists. Guess what's been going on now? male rape victims being forced to pay child support after reaching age of consent because their rapist got pregnant.
You want to talk about rape culture? Women are the only ones creating a rape culture."

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_rape_in_america_a_new_study_reveals_that_men_are_sexually_assaulted.html

jay-me · 08-11-2014 06:18AM

http://imgur.com/6g1zmtZ

Chunners · 08-11-2014 06:33AM

dark crystal wrote: »

Not at all; must have been a type-o on my part. Still, the posts in this this thread have been uncannily like:

masculinist
ˈmaskjʊlɪnɪst/
adjective
adjective: masculinist; adjective: masculist
1.
characterized by or denoting attitudes or values held to be typical of men.
"masculinist language"

noun
noun: masculinist; plural noun: masculinists; noun: masculist; plural noun: masculists
1.
an advocate of the rights or needs of men.
"new masculinists"

Weird coincidence he chooses such a random username, given the views he hold and all, eh?

I can't be arsed anymore, seriously I don't have the proper physical equipment yet to win a pissing contest with you because honestly for a feminist you display very similar traits to a misogynist. I mean lets put it into perspective here:

1. misogynist like to be always right but so do feminists
2. misogynist never back down but neither do feminists
3. misogynist always push their agenda but so do feminists
4. misogynist hate females but feminists hate males
5. misogynist agendas are based around their gender but so are feminists

really take whats in both your pants out of the equation and you are pretty much two cheeks on the same ar*e

LizT · 08-11-2014 07:25AM

Mod

We're getting bogged down now with Feminism vs Masculism vs Egalitarianism. Can we return to the original discussion about misogyny specifically on boards?

Gummy Panda · 08-11-2014 08:12AM

AH really does recycle threads

I remember one of the first ones was started by someone who turned out to have loads of misandry posts and tried excuse it by saying she was high lol. If you're not reporting posts then noting can be done.

tritium · 08-11-2014 08:42AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

So one female athlete was arrested for domestic violence which she was charged with but hasn't yet gone to trial. There are people saying that she should be dropped from her team if she is found guilty by the way. And she should be. For example

http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/11125666/jim-caple-says-hope-solo-chances-espnw

An interesting quote from that article

Quote:
KIRKLAND, Wash. -- If Hope Solo played football rather than women's soccer, her career probably wouldn't be in jeopardy.

After all, her husband, former tight end Jerramy Stevens, assaulted another student in 1998 as a senior in high school yet still received a scholarship to play at the University of Washington. At the UW, he was arrested in 2000 in the investigation of an alleged rape -- he was never charged, but several years later his attorney made an out-of-court civil settlement with the accuser -- and drove his truck into a retirement home in 2001. Yet, he stayed on the team and was drafted by the NFL, playing 202 games from 2002 to 2010 despite two DUIs.

Two years ago, Stevens also was arrested on suspicion of domestic violence against Solo during a party at a residence. Charges eventually were dropped because of insufficient evidence -- and either there was no violence against her or she, too, excused this behavior because she married him the next day.

In contrast, 83 NFL players were arrested on domestic violence charges in the past 14 years. Most of those weren't suspended from the NFL. Most of those barely even made the news. Ray Rice wasn't even banned until the video showing his guilt was made public. Doesn't sound like the system is biased against men really and it would seem that the NFL in the past has been lenient on players who are domestic abusers and criminals in general
In contrast, 83 NFL players were arrested on domestic violence charges in the past 14 years. Most of those weren't suspended from the NFL. Most of those barely even made the news. Ray Rice wasn't even banned until the video showing his guilt was made public. Doesn't sound like the system is biased against men really and it would seem that the NFL in the past has been lenient on players who are domestic abusers and criminals in general.

Seriously?

you come on to a thread on mysogony and quote us a misandristic piece of tripe that justifies a violent female on the basis that her husband might also not be very nice.

Really? You thought this was the stellar example and quote to post?

Molester Stallone II · 08-11-2014 08:52AM

Boards is cyclical, every so often we get poppy bashing threads, traveller bashing threads, women bashing threads, sinn fein bashing threads, Irish language bashing threads there's even a few man bashing threads and all!.

I wouldn't get too worked up about it, report offending posts, block and move on.
I would hope that in any AH thread where a woman was being picked on, or there was even a hint of real misogyny, that the better posters there would step in and difuse the situation...

listermint · 08-11-2014 09:41AM

I had an Ipod once it let me down big time, so i was so annoyed at apple now i just spend my time disliking apple. More used to my android now.

Anyway, i was a Ryanair plane the other day and there was like 5 passengers with Iphones and a some even had Ipads. I could feel an air of apple in the air.

The Passenger next to me even shoved the ipad in my face, i was so annoyed at the time, i was going to tell the steward but decided against it. Some of the folks with their iphones were practically shoving it in my face even though they were using them covertly.

There was such an air of apple on this plane that i decided Ryanair are all about apple. Its extremely frustrating seen signs of apple all around the place especially when i know the users are out to get me.

I suppose what im saying is ...... this thread is as ridiculous as an Iphone Versus Android debate the fanboy comparisons are fairly sound.

Ruining After Hours one thread at a time.

lufties · 08-11-2014 09:44AM

Gavin Shaggy Stoutness wrote: »

when I first started here there'd be the classic comments along the lines of "make me a sandwich/get back in the kitchen" "there's no women on the internet hardy har har" "Pics or gtfo" etc etc. Found them mildly irritating at the time, never imagined that seven years later I'd be missing them and flooded with nostalgia in the face of:

1: Suspended sentences for sexual assault being somehow held up as a damning indictment of the prejudice against males in the justice system.

2: Posters warning other men not to get married because if it doesn't work out a woman will take your house, your kids, and your fcuking soul. Because that's what we do.

3: The inexorable draw that a thread on why feminism is still relevant has on mostly male posters, flocking in to tell us that no we don't, no, we're wrong. Not just "some aspects of feminism" or "radical feminism", but all of it.

4: Men putting us somewhere on the spectrum between deluded idiots and two-faced liars whenever the subject of what we find attractive in a man comes up.

Obviously not all men, etc etc. Also I'm not a big fan of most internet feminism, but the backlash against it (which in certain respects is very valid) has brought some real slimey little sh1ts crawling out from under their rocks. The mood on here sometimes can definitely be very misogynistic but it's just a reflection of what's going on online more generally.

If you are a decent and well meaning human, it indeed must be awful to come online and have your gender spoke of in derogatory terms.

I just wonder though what has happened in society to bring this type of thing to the fore. Have men always been this pissed off with women? If not, why so? In the world I live in, women have the power mostly, with regard to divorce laws and kids. Also, if the woman is attractive she can use it get what she wants. Recently, I got out of a relationship by a callous, superficial, juvenile, fickle, self absorbed woman. These kind of experiences make men bitter imo.

DeadHand · 08-11-2014 09:52AM

listermint wrote: »

There was such an air of apple on this plane that i decided Ryanair are all about apple

I've read nothing complaining that AH is an inherently misogynistic forum. It isn't.

I've read many posts pointing out there is an angry, misogynistic undertone to many of the threads. There is.

This thread is relevant, it addresses a genuine phenomenom.

Grayson · 08-11-2014 10:14AM

listermint wrote: »

I had an Ipod once it let me down big time, so i was so annoyed at apple now i just spend my time disliking apple. More used to my android now.

Anyway, i was a Ryanair plane the other day and there was like 5 passengers with Iphones and a some even had Ipads. I could feel an air of apple in the air.

The Passenger next to me even shoved the ipad in my face, i was so annoyed at the time, i was going to tell the steward but decided against it. Some of the folks with their iphones were practically shoving it in my face even though they were using them covertly.

There was such an air of apple on this plane that i decided Ryanair are all about apple. Its extremely frustrating seen signs of apple all around the place especially when i know the users are out to get me.

I suppose what im saying is ...... this thread is as ridiculous as an Iphone Versus Android debate the fanboy comparisons are fairly sound.

Ruining After Hours one thread at a time.

The lesson i learned from you is that apple are overpriced shyte.

I'm sure there's some misogyny on boards. there are some posters for whom the woman is always wrong. they're hyped up, over sensitive etc... all the time.

I'm sure there's probably misandry. Men are dicks. men don't understand women etc... (Although even for most people there can be misunderstanding when it comes to the opposite gender)

To be fair there are some women are are over sensitive. There are probably just as many men like that too.

lets face it, there's a broad cross section of the public here. And on any thread that involves men/wome hating, the people who post the most are going to be men/women haters. So it just looks like there's more.

beks101 · 08-11-2014 10:15AM

lufties wrote: »

Recently, I got out of a relationship by a callous, superficial, juvenile, fickle, self absorbed woman. These kind of experiences make men bitter imo.

I've dated some awful gobshytes in my time too. Some awful liars, cheats and selfish pricks in there. Does that give me leeway to direct bile at every man who crosses my path from now until the end of time? Or should I accept the fact that I picked a few bad eggs and sh1t happens?

listermint · 08-11-2014 10:16AM

DeadHand wrote: »

I've read nothing complaining that AH is an inherently misogynistic forum. It isn't.

I've read many posts pointing out there is an angry, misogynistic undertone to many of the threads. There is.

This thread is relevant, it addresses a genuine phenomenom.

I can use the term undertone to describe anything.

Boards has a general undertone of self importance and dogmatism.

There does that clarify this thread.

DeadHand · 08-11-2014 10:21AM

listermint wrote: »

I can use the term undertone to describe anything.

Boards has a general undertone of self importance and dogmatism.

There does that clarify this thread.

No, that clarifies nothing.

I've no idea what point you're trying to make.

The amount of misogyny on boards these days is frightening.*Mod instruction in OP*

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The amount of misogyny on boards these days is frightening.Mod instruction in OP