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210lbs 6'2 progress (pics)

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  • #452
    OneShay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 ✭OneShay


    Appreciate the info dude, and the honesty.

    I see so many forums with guys really denying that they lose any strength on a lengthy cut which for natural guys I find very hard to believe. Or at the very least to maintain or gain strength is not the norm for an experienced lifter. Your drops seem pretty much in line with mine which is comforting as you seem like a guy who is doing the vast majority of things right.


  • #453
    RomanGod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭RomanGod


    OneShay wrote: »
    Appreciate the info dude, and the honesty.

    I see so many forums with guys really denying that they lose any strength on a lengthy cut which for natural guys I find very hard to believe. Or at the very least to maintain or gain strength is not the norm for an experienced lifter. Your drops seem pretty much in line with mine which is comforting as you seem like a guy who is doing the vast majority of things right.

    When you cut you have 2 options

    1) more reps less weight, mind muscle connection always

    2) follow the same routine you did during the bulk, 6 reps or under


    It's hard to say which is better, it depends on your goals but both have pros and cons. I followed number 1 and in terms of visual progress it worked but strength went down. If I went with number 2 would I still look the same? Who knows

    what I do know


    1) more reps less weight route
    Pros
    -allows you to reduce rest period so you have more intensity created which turns your workout into a form of cardio as well
    -mind muscle connection is encouraged with this routine because lower weight so not using ego

    Cons
    -the argument that you can't 'mould' muscle with more reps, a muscle will either increase or decrease based on resistance
    -strength is not trained because lack of rest period so you can't lift with 100% effort
    -this routine really discourages compounds


    2) same routine as your bulk

    Pros
    -Maintaining strength because still have rest periods
    -if bulk went well no reason it theory why it can't work for cut

    Cons
    -More rest periods means less intensity so would need to add more cardio to burn calories
    -some people will get sick of doing the same routine for a bulk and cut


  • #454
    OneShay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 ✭OneShay


    RomanGod wrote: »
    When you cut you have 2 options

    1) more reps less weight, mind muscle connection always

    2) follow the same routine you did during the bulk, 6 reps or under


    It's hard to say which is better, it depends on your goals but both have pros and cons. I followed number 1 and in terms of visual progress it worked but strength went down. If I went with number 2 would I still look the same? Who knows

    what I do know


    1) more reps less weight route
    Pros
    -allows you to reduce rest period so you have more intensity created which turns your workout into a form of cardio as well
    -mind muscle connection is encouraged with this routine because lower weight so not using ego

    Cons
    -the argument that you can't 'mould' muscle with more reps, a muscle will either increase or decrease based on resistance
    -strength is not trained because lack of rest period so you can't lift with 100% effort
    -this routine really discourages compounds


    2) same routine as your bulk

    Pros
    -Maintaining strength because still have rest periods
    -if bulk went well no reason it theory why it can't work for cut

    Cons
    -More rest periods means less intensity so would need to add more cardio to burn calories
    -some people will get sick of doing the same routine for a bulk and cut


    Yeah iv always gone for the second option. Partly this is because iv always responded best to lower rep routines anyway. Iv also been tempted to slowly drop the number of sets as the cut progresses in order to allow easier recovery. This was a theory I felt made sense. In practice it seemed to work fine for upper body but anecdotally my lower body did not seem to maintain as much strength.


  • #455
    link_2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭link_2007


    Any pics from when you were 18stone?


  • #456
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    link_2007 wrote: »
    Any pics from when you were 18stone?

    Dirtbird.


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  • #457
    link_2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭link_2007


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Dirtbird.

    Doesn't matter if he doesn't post them, I know where he lives

    peeping-tom-cat-o.gif


  • #458
    Slobbery
    Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭Slobbery


    endacl wrote: »
    Link!!

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=135833691

    Sounds like Hanley knew the guy to see or was an acquaintance, fair embarrassing for the lad

    The Internet is a small place!


  • #459
    dor843088
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭dor843088


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Dirtbird.

    Rofl . Hilarious.


  • #460
    dartstothesea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭dartstothesea


    chopper6 wrote: »
    People have to start somewhere..not everybody is capable of 2x bodyweight benches and the self-congratulation and self-promotion that goes with it.
    I don't think anyone posting in the thread so far has benched 2xBW raw. Just sayin'. Let me know if someone has because fair play if so, obviously


  • #461
    Essien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Essien


    Slobbery wrote: »
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=135833691

    Sounds like Hanley knew the guy to see or was an acquaintance, fair embarrassing for the lad

    The Internet is a small place!

    That's deadly :pac:


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  • #462
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Slobbery wrote: »
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=135833691

    Sounds like Hanley knew the guy to see or was an acquaintance, fair embarrassing for the lad

    The Internet is a small place!

    Aw man... I forgot about that.

    I never even posted about the follow up where I got the long winded pity story, the groveling apology and all the other BS.


  • #463
    chopper6
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭chopper6


    Hanley wrote: »
    Aw man... I forgot about that.

    I never even posted about the follow up where I got the long winded pity story, the groveling apology and all the other BS.

    That bloke was sussed long before he posted that pic of you pretending to be him...a sad case.

    Is he still around do ya know?


  • #464
    RomanGod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭RomanGod


    link_2007 wrote: »
    Any pics from when you were 18stone?

    Posted some on earlier pages. Here's an arm pose taken via an ipad



    qxmgqc.jpg


  • #465
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Slobbery wrote: »
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=135833691

    Sounds like Hanley knew the guy to see or was an acquaintance, fair embarrassing for the lad

    The Internet is a small place!

    Cringe


  • #466
    Slobbery
    Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭Slobbery


    Hanley wrote: »
    Aw man... I forgot about that.

    I never even posted about the follow up where I got the long winded pity story, the groveling apology and all the other BS.

    What a dope

    He goes into an international website with a fake story and fake pictures, and people still manage to find out who he actually is in real life - this is just new levels of stupidity


  • #467
    SteelyDanJalapeno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,470 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    Slobbery wrote: »
    What a dope

    He goes into an international website with a fake story and fake pictures, and people still manage to find out who he actually is in real life - this is just new levels of stupidity

    Wow just read that thread, what a c*ck


  • #468
    Blacktie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    Slobbery wrote: »
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=135833691

    Sounds like Hanley knew the guy to see or was an acquaintance, fair embarrassing for the lad

    The Internet is a small place!

    Thread deleted :(


  • #469
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,198 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Blacktie. wrote: »
    Thread deleted :(
    I'd assume somebody posted in it and got it deleted.


    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=135833691

    I'm not sure if that will load past the first page.
    I'll try find something better


  • #470
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Mellor wrote: »
    I'd assume somebody posted in it and got it deleted.
    r

    What bell end went and did that?! UGH!


  • #471
    Maddux Ashy Axe
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Maddux Ashy Axe


    u jelly brah


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  • #472
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I gave up.

    There was no Google translation for any of the posts so I only got as far as page 2. My pidgin retard could only take me so far.


  • #473
    link_2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭link_2007


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    I gave up.

    There was no Google translation for any of the posts so I only got as far as page 2. My pidgin retard could only take me so far.

    Same. There was a lot of internet speak I didn't understand.

    I understood that someone was claiming he had lifted certain numbers and was putting up pics of Hanley to support the claim.

    Hanley came on the scene which showed up the OP as a liar but the bit I am stuck on is how Hanley knew who the person behind the login was?


  • #474
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,198 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Hanley wrote: »
    What bell end went and did that?! UGH!

    Here you go

    http://web.archive.org/web/20110804042340/http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=135833691


  • #475
    Maddux Ashy Axe
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Maddux Ashy Axe


    link_2007 wrote: »
    Same. There was a lot of internet speak I didn't understand.

    I understood that someone was claiming he had lifted certain numbers and was putting up pics of Hanley to support the claim.

    Hanley came on the scene which showed up the OP as a liar but the bit I am stuck on is how Hanley knew who the person behind the login was?
    So the update... He's photos taken 200m from my door, we've like 7 friends in common on Facebook.

    I fired off a load of mails with his pics to people who train in the gyms he mentioned before Timestretch pm'd me his FB and got links back with who he was.

    So it looks like I now know who the bozo is, suggestions on how I should handle it?

    there we go


  • #476
    Blacktie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    Slobbery wrote: »
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=135833691

    Sounds like Hanley knew the guy to see or was an acquaintance, fair embarrassing for the lad

    The Internet is a small place!
    bluewolf wrote: »
    there we go

    Damn only has the first 4 pages

    No page 6 onwards. And it seems like an entertaining read. Damn it back to work I go.


  • #477
    Maddux Ashy Axe
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Maddux Ashy Axe


    Blacktie. wrote: »
    Damn only has the first 4 pages

    No page 6 onwards. And it seems like an entertaining read. Damn it back to work I go.

    mellor linked the archive
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92934865&postcount=474


  • #478
    Blacktie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    bluewolf wrote: »
    mellor linked the archive
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92934865&postcount=474

    Missing a load of pages.


  • #479
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    link_2007 wrote: »
    Same. There was a lot of internet speak I didn't understand.

    I understood that someone was claiming he had lifted certain numbers and was putting up pics of Hanley to support the claim.

    Hanley came on the scene which showed up the OP as a liar but the bit I am stuck on is how Hanley knew who the person behind the login was?

    I got PMs from like 3 dudes on BB.com who tracked down his yahoo and myspace profile and sent me links.

    One sent pics of him taken really close to my gaff. Scarily so.


  • #480
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Someone awares me. Hanley has a stalker?


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  • #481
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,198 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Here's another thread from that guy.
    Haven't read it all yet, no idea if he impresonates anyone in this one


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