Terminator Genisys

Seanachai · 31-10-2014 01:05PM

pixelburp wrote: »

I imagine few would mistake the shots for final material, but if they were an attempt to get fans or well-wishers onboard, I'd argue they've done the opposite - even if they are just costume tests. Besides, my real bugbear is that the plot just sounds like utter gubbins & Jai Courtney has about as much screen presence & charisma as a plank of wood

Jai Courtney is a dreadful actor, the sulky face scrunch in the promo shot sums him up pretty well. He's physique and demenaour just doesn't match the Kyle Reese character, he's too chunky and doesn't come across as being wily enough. I'd have more faith in Emilia Clarke pulling off Sarah Connor but the casting just isn't good. The casting for the new star wars films is very weak too.

Sad Professor · 31-10-2014 01:14PM

Seanachai wrote: »

The casting for the new star wars films is kind of weak too.

I agree about Jai Courtney, but how can you say that about Star Wars when we don’t even know who those actors are playing yet?

Dempsey · 31-10-2014 01:26PM

Sad Professor wrote: »

I agree about Jai Courtney, but how can you say that about Star Wars when we don’t even know who those actors are playing yet?

Because modern Hollywood has piss poor form when it comes to well established franchises

Seanachai · 31-10-2014 02:00PM

Sad Professor wrote: »

I agree about Jai Courtney, but how can you say that about Star Wars when we don’t even know who those actors are playing yet?

It's not the characters that they're playing, it's the fact that they're in it at all! I'm talking about Domhnall Gleeson in particular. If Jai Courtney was playing an undisclosed character I still wouldn't want him in it. There's some great young actors out there like Jack O'Connell, but there just seems to be a culture of choosing weak but attractive people instead to fill the roles.

Look at the tv shows like The 100 & Marvels agents of shield, they're just glossy pap with no grit, depth or decent storyline, it's actually draining to watch them when it should be drawing you in. The new Constantine show seems good though but that's probably because they cast a lead who looks like he's actually lived a little.

Zubeneschamali · 31-10-2014 02:05PM

Seanachai wrote: »

It's not the characters that they're playing, it's the fact that they're in it at all!

Yeah, original star wars used seasoned actors like Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher!

pixelburp · 31-10-2014 02:12PM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

The plot of the original was pretty dull and unoriginal - it was the execution which was brilliant.

Not disagreeing there, but this latest plot sounds like a retread too far, a reboot by any other name for a franchise that has no business being further strung out, having far mutated from its grungy, low-budget origins. Heck, The Terminator was a fuppin' horror movie imo, and we're a long way from that.

seamus · 31-10-2014 02:23PM

Initially I was thinking WTF, but it sounds like they're going to attempt a "canon" reboot like Abrams's Star Trek; i.e. the movie opens with the original timeline, but then somebody goes back or whatever and alters the timeline.

Terminator canon allows the timeline to be changed (even in T2, they changed it), so it's not a million miles out there.

I'll wait for a trailer. I'm not why the insistence on bringing Arnie back though.

Myrddin · 31-10-2014 02:27PM

seamus wrote: »

Terminator canon allows the timeline to be changed (even in T2, they changed it), so it's not a million miles out there.

"You did not prevent judgement day, you only postponed it"

:rolleyes:

Seanachai · 31-10-2014 04:41PM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Yeah, original star wars used seasoned actors like Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher!

Don't have any issues with newcomers or even people who have never acted before. Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher had light and shade in them whereas some of the choices in recent films are people who don't have any gravitas at all. They're just pretty and emptyheaded and do the same twilight style of coolness and pouting.

Jumboman · 31-10-2014 09:45PM

Jumboman wrote: »

They have just released a new pic of arnie as the Terminator.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/10/30/terminator-genisys-cover-story/

Just looking at the gun arnie is holding in the picture its a big step down from the gun he had in Terminator 2. It looks like something he got out of a toy shop.

The Black Oil · 31-10-2014 11:27PM

Sad Professor wrote: »

Or how bad Quicksilver looked when originally revealed in Empire? Or Dredd?

Jeez, the make up and lighting/manipulation. Is it from an episode of Thunderbirds?

scouttio · 02-11-2014 11:31AM

Seanachai wrote: »

Jai Courtney is a dreadful actor, the sulky face scrunch in the promo shot sums him up pretty well. He's physique and demenaour just doesn't match the Kyle Reese character, he's too chunky and doesn't come across as being wily enough. I'd have more faith in Emilia Clarke pulling off Sarah Connor but the casting just isn't good. The casting for the new star wars films is very weak too.

Not sure I'd agree with that at all. I dont mean to take it off topic but star wars has picked up a great cast full of promising young actors and old heads with previous....oh and Andy Serkis

Thargor · 03-11-2014 02:40PM

Sarah Connor isn’t the innocent she was when Linda Hamilton first sported feathered hair and acid-washed jeans in the role. Nor is she Hamilton’s steely zero body-fat warrior in 1991’s T2. Rather, the mother of humanity’s messiah was orphaned by a Terminator at age 9. Since then, she’s been raised by (brace yourself) Schwarzenegger’s Terminator—an older T-800 she calls “Pops”—who is programmed to guard rather than to kill.

Iranoutofideas · 03-11-2014 11:03PM

Seanachai wrote: »

Jai Courtney is a dreadful actor, the sulky face scrunch in the promo shot sums him up pretty well. He's physique and demenaour just doesn't match the Kyle Reese character, he's too chunky and doesn't come across as being wily enough. I'd have more faith in Emilia Clarke pulling off Sarah Connor but the casting just isn't good. The casting for the new star wars films is very weak too.

Hold on a second there ... Max Von Sydow, Andy Serkis, Gwendoline Christie, Oscar Isaac, Lupita Nyong'o?

Not to mention Harrison Ford and the rest of the old crew?

Hande hoche! · 04-11-2014 12:01AM

This sounds like a train wreck. Might have to go see it.

Seanachai · 04-11-2014 01:01PM

Iranoutofideas wrote: »

Hold on a second there ... Max Von Sydow, Andy Serkis, Gwendoline Christie, Oscar Isaac, Lupita Nyong'o?

Not to mention Harrison Ford and the rest of the old crew?

I was talking about the younger cast, I think it's a given that the veterans will perform well.

pixelburp · 04-11-2014 01:58PM

Seanachai wrote: »

I was talking about the younger cast, I think it's a given that the veterans will perform well.

Going by Harrison Ford's CV, that's a bit of a wild assumption, he has sleepwalked through every recent performance. In fact he's the one I'm most concerned about, not the newcomers; not everyone's a Jake Lloyd in waiting, and having seen Attack the Block (great movie btw, people should see it), I'm confident the likes of John Boyega can carry this film.

While it's still very early doors, considering how much of a cultural bomb the prequels were, you can guarantee that spectre has been hovering over every decision the production has made, including the casting which imo has been solid in all age brackets.

edit: feels weird talking Star Wars in the Terminator thread

haha

Angel Knightess · 05-11-2014 11:41PM

Another rehash. Hollywood thinks that if it has a brand, a younger cast, some acting legends and some over the top cgi it'll be great. How about a plot? That goes for terminator and star wars.

Zubeneschamali · 06-11-2014 10:06AM

Angel Knightess wrote: »

Hollywood thinks that if it has a brand, a younger cast, some acting legends and some over the top cgi it'll be great.

The biggest movie of the year was Transformers, and that entire series has been an insult to the intelligence of the whole human species. Hollywood doesn't care about great, just cash.

Adamantium · 24-11-2014 07:48PM

Cameron is quite literally spinning in his submersible.

I'm gobsmacked, I wrote and rewrote paragraphs about reboots, how Sarah Connor Chronicles is on par with T1 and T2, story directions and went back and deleted them all and instead I'll just leave you with this:

Soft Falling Rain · 25-11-2014 07:59PM

I'd say Cameron couldn't give a flute tbh, he's spoken openly about encouraging Arne to fleece them for every appearance he gives within the franchise.

Duggy747 · 26-11-2014 12:00AM

Yea, I always figured Cameron didn't give 2 fúcks about the franchise after T2 which to him was the end of the story, everything afterwards was always going to happen by movie studios with or without his help.

Arnie has even said how Cameron told him he didn't care if he kept playing the Terminator but to get as much money out of them as possible for it.

Itssoeasy · 01-12-2014 10:40PM

I'm a huge fan of the terminator franchise and hadnt being paying attention to the news about the fifth film next year until tonight. I read a premise of the film and so its going to be set in an alternative version of history set before the first film ?

yipeeeee · 01-12-2014 10:42PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I'm a huge fan of the terminator franchise and hadnt being paying attention to the news about the fifth film next year until tonight. I read a premise of the film and so its going to be set in an alternative version of history set before the first film ?

Yep, terrible ay.

Itssoeasy · 01-12-2014 10:47PM

yipeeeee wrote: »

Yep, terrible ay.

I'd only heard the actors involved but not a definite story. It's a bit meh on first glance alright. Personally even if salvation wasn't well recieved I liked that they had gone into the future war which we heard about for three films.

DoYouEvenLift · 02-12-2014 04:39PM

Doesn't James Cameron get the rights back to the Terminator franchise in 2019? I wonder if he wrote and made a new one himself, after whatever this new trilogy ends up being, would it be for 18s or more PG 12 bullsh!t.

Duggy747 · 02-12-2014 06:30PM

Trailer will be released in 2 days.

py2006 · 03-12-2014 06:16PM

Oh Sweet Lord this has gotten me excited.

Arnie has just posted it on social media. As soon as I get an embed link I will add it here.

I was a bit iffy (yet still excited) about this one but the teaser (the 2nd one) has got me thinking of T2 all over again.

The main trailer is out tomorrow

EDIT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IZT8pk0OoQ

MrStuffins · 03-12-2014 06:18PM

Just saw it pop up. This movie is going to be a disaster.

"He is back"

It's obviously going to be a vehicle for Arnie and he's way way past it! Had they decided to make a Terminator movie that didn't revolve around Arnie but featured him, maybe. But I can see this being another Rise of the Machines type actioner with not much else behind it.

py2006 · 03-12-2014 06:23PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Just saw it pop up. This movie is going to be a disaster.

"He is back"

It's obviously going to be a vehicle for Arnie and he's way way past it! Had they decided to make a Terminator movie that didn't revolve around Arnie but featured him, maybe. But I can see this being another Rise of the Machines type actioner with not much else behind it.

The "He is back" thing could just be for the teaser to get the fans excited on social media. It doesn't bother me. Lets wait to see full trailer tomorrow.

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