Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

BMJD · 31-10-2014 10:34AM

Between Stevie and Johnson, that's the best part of 250k a week. That's a world class salary right there.

Turtyturd · 31-10-2014 10:45AM

10 Alberto-esque players is more likely.

Dickerty · 31-10-2014 10:49AM

BMJD wrote: »

Between Stevie and Johnson, that's the best part of 250k a week. That's a world class salary right there.

Ah, the club doesn't look at it that simply. I doubt they gave an overall salary limit where they say "We've saved x, let's go use it up elsewere". After the changes in the last 3 summers, we should have LOADS of room...

Gbear · 31-10-2014 10:58AM

Dickerty wrote: »

Ah, the club doesn't look at it that simply. I doubt they gave an overall salary limit where they say "We've saved x, let's go use it up elsewere". After the changes in the last 3 summers, we should have LOADS of room...

I think it's important to them that they can reward players for service - they had no problem spending money on Suarez after he proved his value.

Wheras for a player coming in starting on 200k we have to take a leap of faith and, furthermore, when it comes to reward them, how can you afford to improve their package?

There have been plenty of players playing for clubs with less money than us or willing to take a pay cut to play at a higher level.

I think it precludes signing the real top level finished article players, but I seldom think they're ever good value anyway so that doesn't bother me.

LuckyLloyd · 31-10-2014 10:59AM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Steven Gerrard: it’s up to Liverpool whether I’m at Anfield next season
• Former England captain has yet to sign contract extension
• ‘I won’t be retiring this summer. I will play beyond this season’

Link

Provided he doesn't continue to be one our highest paid players he should finish his career with Liverpool and not some struggling EPL sïde for his final few seasons.

Without getting overly sentimental I think he is well worth having in our squad. His experience with the club, his attitude and his motivation skills are very real assets that should be kept. The tail end of Ryan G's career proves just how well having a club legend in the dressing room can go.

He should no longer be a nailed on starter for sure but he should be afforded the chance to play every game of his career in a Reds shirt, and I will personally feel sickened if they don't offer him any contract at all.

If he's not retiring the club have to resign him. That ****ing simple.

Steven Gerrard decides when he stops being a member of the Liverpool squad (not necessarily selected) not the other way round imo.

Harry Palmr · 31-10-2014 11:06AM

I, of course would tell him no extension and thanks for your efforts. Let him decide where to go for his last hurrah.

rob316 · 31-10-2014 11:08AM

If you read between the lines, he has been offered a new contract but the terms aren't acceptable. He has to realise his days as the top earner are over.

Pyjamarama · 31-10-2014 11:13AM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

If he's not retiring the club have to resign him. That ****ing simple.

Steven Gerrard decides when he stops being a member of the Liverpool squad (not necessarily selected) not the other way round imo.

Nice of you to put sentimentality at the top of the requirements list when he's being paid with other people's money. Fsg should do what they think is best for the club. What of Stevie won't take a paycut? Should they keep him on his massive wages? No player bigger than the club. Legends have left before.

NEDDURC · 31-10-2014 11:15AM

rob316 wrote: »

If you read between the lines, he has been offered a new contract but the terms aren't acceptable. He has to realise his days as the top earner are over.

I think this too. He is clearly using the media here to hopefully get a fans reaction to put pressure on the management to sign him up again.
I don't think he's any intention of leaving. If he was honest he'd know his form has slipped and needs to get used to a new role on the bench more (like Giggs as someone already said).

I'd like to see him used as an impact sub at times. To come on in his old position of attacking midfield. Forget the holding role. It's just not working. See Song at the weekend for West Ham, all action, breaking up play around his own box and also bursting forward. That's what Liverpool need.

Agent Coulson · 31-10-2014 11:21AM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Player coach would be ideal.

I can't see Rodgers ever letting that happen to be honest.

Can you imagine the pressure and calls for Rodgers to lose his job if he goes on a really bad run with Gerrard on the coaching staff.

redzerdrog · 31-10-2014 11:27AM

There is only 5 of the current squad that I would be sad if they left and Stevie is one of them, it would be a travesty is he was to go to another club

DARK-KNIGHT · 31-10-2014 11:32AM

Pyjamarama wrote: »

Nice of you to put sentimentality at the top of the requirements list when he's being paid with other people's money. Fsg should do what they think is best for the club. What of Stevie won't take a paycut? Should they keep him on his massive wages? No player bigger than the club. Legends have left before.

Tbh there is no bigger Liverpool legend than Gerrard through thick and thin he was loyal he could have won many league titles but stayed true to his club he deserves massive respect not to be told to piss off

Harry Palmr · 31-10-2014 11:34AM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I can't see Rodgers ever letting that happen to be honest.

Can you imagine the pressure and calls for Rodgers to lose his job if he goes on a really bad run with Gerrard on the coaching staff.

It would be Giggs mark two.

Turtyturd · 31-10-2014 11:39AM

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Tbh there is no bigger Liverpool legend than Gerrard

Harry Palmr · 31-10-2014 11:41AM

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Tbh there is no bigger Liverpool legend than Gerrard through thick and thin he was loyal he could have won many league titles but stayed true to his club he deserves massive respect not to be told to piss off

Turtyturd wrote: »

Excuse me!

MR NINE · 31-10-2014 11:43AM

It would of course be a shame if he didnt see out his career at liverpool, but fsg probably dont feel he is worth 150k+ a week anymore. I would probably have to agree. Id like to see him stick around, but if he is trying to get a better deal then I understand the club not giving it to him. Obviously we dont know whats going on behind the scenes and what type of offer, if any, has been made to him. Im not sure exactly what hes earning at the moment but I would hazard a guess its around the 150k mark. I think its unrealistic for him to expect the same wage in the future as his value to the club is clearly gonna diminish. If he gets offered that wage elsewhere Ill understand his decision to leave. Im sure ill get slated, but it could be a blessing in disguise if he were to leave. I know its not his fault, but hes being selected game in game out in a role hes not physically capable for imo. It seems rodgers is unwilling to drop/rotate him for whatever reason. In an ideal world hed stay on a lower wage and start less games. If he has greater ambitions then its completely understandable, if he gets offered a large wage by a club thats willing to start him week in week out I wont begrudge him leaving. But I dont think its in liverpools best interests to give him 150k a week and start him week in week out for another year or two, so I completely understand them not giving him a new deal if theyre the terms hes looking for.

Turtyturd · 31-10-2014 11:43AM

As for Gerrard probably best if he is treated like a plaster and ripped away in one go...although at this point I'd settle for the pussy approach of slowly removing it bit by bit.

NukaCola · 31-10-2014 11:46AM

Gerrard has played every EPL and CL game this season. BR wants him in the team and squad. He will get at least another year contract. I would be shocked if he didn't.

john why · 31-10-2014 12:07PM

Nearly 24 hours to go , who's doing the match thread?

willowthewisp · 31-10-2014 12:14PM

I don’t there is a lot wrong with what Gerrard has said. Anyone who reads the full interview can see;
• He is defending his teammate Balotelli
• He is saying our form is understandable after losing 2 key players (Suarez to Barca & Sturridge to injury).
• He does not want to retire, and if e doesn’t get a contract extension with Liverpool he will play somewhere else next season.
My only hope would be that if does move on, then it would be to another country where he could make an impact with a top team and win that elusive league title (maybe he should just go north of the border and pick up a handy one....).

And in my opinion Gerrard becoming part of the coaching staff in a senior capacity in the next 5 years should be a non runner.

31-10-2014 12:32PM

john why wrote: »

Nearly 24 hours to go , who's doing the match thread?

Done.

My record is decent enough too

Pyjamarama · 31-10-2014 01:03PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Done.

My record is decent enough too

Yeah but what about when you set it up under your other usernames?!?

Alonso77 · 31-10-2014 01:22PM

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Tbh there is no bigger Liverpool legend than Gerrard through thick and thin he was loyal he could have won many league titles but stayed true to his club he deserves massive respect not to be told to piss off

Hey lets not forget this legend of the club!

Augmerson · 31-10-2014 01:40PM

Is that cat running with it's knees?

Luis21 · 31-10-2014 02:59PM

Hes not worth a contract extension. Time for a change.

dogbert27 · 31-10-2014 03:12PM

Luis21 wrote: »

Hes not worth a contract extension. Time for a change.

I agree, that cat has got to go.

Pilsbury Doughboy · 31-10-2014 03:14PM

I think everyone agrees that Stevie should be eased out of the side over the next year or two, but I don't think he should be unceremoniously dumped by the club , he deserves much better than that, obviously he might be asking for too much so a compromise will hopefully be agreed , I can't and dont want to picture him wearing another club teams kit, even if it it was some MLS side.