17 v .22 the best riffle and scope

killintime · 04-10-2014 10:55AM

what other info on them are you looking for on the cz 527

killintime · 04-10-2014 10:59AM

any one got any opinon on the ruger 10/22 thanks

killintime · 04-10-2014 11:22AM

CZ527
Main featuReS
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Truemicro-length Mauser-style action
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Controlled round feed
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Hammer forged barrel
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Single set rigger
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Detachable magazine
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16mm scope dovetails milled into the action
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Left-hand versions available in some calibers
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Because they are built to CIP spec, all CZ.223s are built to fire 5.56 ammunition. CIP spec does’t differentiate between the two hope this help abit

Traumadoc · 04-10-2014 12:50PM

killintime wrote: »

any one got any opinon on the ruger 10/22 thanks

Don't have one, prefer a bolt action, but never heard anything bad said about them ( lots of bad things said about other S/A such as the remington 597) and lots of good things said about the ruger.

killintime · 04-10-2014 06:44PM

ya they seem to be a nice one lots of addons for them

killintime · 04-10-2014 06:46PM

marlim 17hmr 917vs any one got /have /or use one of them how good are they or how bad are they thanks

garv123 · 06-10-2014 05:51PM

killintime wrote: »

marlim 17hmr 917vs any one got /have /or use one of them how good are they or how bad are they thanks

Its what I had, just sold it.

It was a great rifle and shot well, they arent expensive and they've got nothing fancy on them but they work.

the magazine can be a little loose but thats an easy fix.

killintime · 06-10-2014 07:05PM

hi thanks garv123 just got alook at one like the feel of it love the heavybarrol an mod like the plane riffle thow

killintime · 15-10-2014 06:45PM

The 1000-times proven Biathlon straight pull action with repeating device
in connection with the match two-stage trigger allows very fast repeating
which results in important seconds for the hunting success.
The straight pull repeater action can easily be operated with the index finger
to open it for reloading. The action is closed again with the thumb. The shooter
reloads the rifle with just one movement of the wrist. The hand operating the
trigger will remain at the grip and even the elbow does not have to move.
The shooter thus only needs little time for focussing. With 3.5 to 4 ms also the
lock time is extraordinarily short and reached by no other brand. It makes a
high hit rate possible.
The .17 HMR caliber (Hornady Magnum Rimfire) with a shot diameter of 0.17
inch is the most innovative introduction to the firearms field in the last few years.
ANSCHÜTZ presented, as one of the first manufacturers in the world, a rifle hat
sets the standard in this caliber from the very start. The renowned ANSCHÜTZ
precision and quality teamed with the fastest rimfire cartridge in the world
produces the ultimate answer for predator hunting with minimum pelt damage

killintime · 15-10-2014 06:46PM

Caliber .17 HMR
Barreled action Straight pull repeater action
Trigger Match two stage trigger 5020
Trigger weight Range of adjustment 90 – 650 g, adjusted to 550 g
Total length 104 cm · 41''
Barreled action length 72,5 cm · 28,5''
Length of pull 77,5 cm · 30,5''
Barrel length / Rifling 55,8 cm · 22'' / 55,8 cm · 22''
Muzzle diameter 18 mm · 0,7''
Rifling length / Number of discharges 228 mm · 9'' / 8
Action weight 2.240 g
Stock weight 1.230 g
Total weight 3.470 g

minktrapper · 15-10-2014 08:53PM

killintime wrote: »

cz 527 17 hornet Based on the .22 Hornet cartridge case, the .17 Hornet propels the 20
grain V-MAX bullet to a scorching 3,650 fps. Fueled with Superformance
propellent, the .17 Hornet Superformance Varmint cartridge is economi
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cally priced, and delivers the trajectory of a traditional 55 grain .223
load, but is a pleasure to shoot with the felt recoil of a .22 WMR. The .17
Hornet – an economical, fun .17-caliber centerfire cartridge that puts the
sting on varmints out to 300 yards!
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3,650 fps muzzle velocity with a 20 grain V-MAX bullet
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Same length as the .22 Hornet – uses the existing action
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Trajectory comparable to a traditional 55 grain
.223 Rem, with the felt recoil of a .22 WMR
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Less fouling, barrel wear, powder and pressure
compared to the .17 Rem
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Lower cost and comparable quality to the .17 Fireball and .223
any got 1 or no how good there are thanks

here you go u tube ''.17 hornet long range performance''

Backfire · 15-10-2014 10:46PM

extremetaz wrote: »

22WMR would give you foxing capability out to ~80-100 yards I'd expect, 22LR wouldn't be advisable on a fox.

The WMR won't be as quiet or as cheap to run as the LR but it's still reasonably cheap to feed and easy to shoot.

Many people do say that a .22LR round is not the most suitable for foxes unless you are accurate with your shots. However there is harder hitting .22LR rounds on the go, the CCI Stingers, 1640fps .22LR, where the standard is 1250fps and subsonic are around 1000fps. The Stingers are supposedly able to "knock" a fox as they say. I bought a box of 50, haven't used one yet on a fox, just test fired a couple, substantially louder. Price wise they are €8 - €9 for a box of 50, if I remember correctly. Not sure of other brands with similar speed and power in .22LR calibre.

killintime · 15-10-2014 11:24PM

thanks mink had a look at that vid some nice shooting and at a good range

killintime · 15-10-2014 11:30PM

hi backfire thanks for the info let me no how you get on with the cci stingers when you do get a fox an at what yards you get him at thanks happy hunting

extremetaz · 16-10-2014 08:53AM

Backfire wrote: »

Many people do say that a .22LR round is not the most suitable for foxes unless you are accurate with your shots. However there is harder hitting .22LR rounds on the go, the CCI Stingers, 1640fps .22LR, where the standard is 1250fps and subsonic are around 1000fps. The Stingers are supposedly able to "knock" a fox as they say. I bought a box of 50, haven't used one yet on a fox, just test fired a couple, substantially louder. Price wise they are €8 - €9 for a box of 50, if I remember correctly. Not sure of other brands with similar speed and power in .22LR calibre.

For sure the 22lr will do the job if you're close enough and your shot placement is spot on. The bigger advantage of the stinger though doesn't come from the fact that it's harder hitting (that helps of course though), it comes from the fact that it's flatter which means that you can place the shot better ...in theory.

The problem with them is that they loose accuracy once they start to go subsonic, and that happens at about 60~ish yards, maybe sooner, I don't use them - in any case, shot placement in this instance is of utmost importance, and hard enough to achieve as it is when you're hitting an animal that size with a bullet that small with that little energy - throw a heap of spread into your accurancy at anything after 60 yards and I'd start to call that impractical.

It's been done of course, and those that it's worked for will tell you that it's worked, you won't hear much from those that it doesn't work from though - but each to their own, I'm only offering my opinion on the capability of the venerable LR and it think there are far batter options if fox is to be an intended target.

killintime · 16-10-2014 09:04PM

hi an thanks extremetaz it will be for bunnys but wont shy away if a fox comes long at the right range but the 17 seems to have more impact at longer range than the 22 so mite look in to the 17

extremetaz · 17-10-2014 01:44PM

killintime wrote: »

hi an thanks extremetaz it will be for bunnys but wont shy away if a fox comes long at the right range but the 17 seems to have more impact at longer range than the 22 so mite look in to the 17

Far more impact and far more accuracy - same energy at 200yards as the Stinger at 70yards, and MPBR of about 120yards as opposed to ~70, and they stay supersonic out to about the 200 yard mark too, so no sudden increase in spread either.

Trade off is that it's louder and more expensive to run.

killintime · 17-10-2014 09:49PM

hi true they do cost abit more an as you say the accuracy is alot better

killintime · 22-10-2014 01:55PM

Browning T-Bolt Target Varmint .17 HMR 16.5 Inch

A marriage between speed and accuracy.

T-Bolt. The return of a legendary rimfire. We all remember the first time squeezing a trigger, usually consisting of simply plinking a few tin cans. For some of us, those first shots were from an original Browning T-Bolt, one of the most accurate, handy and easy-to-shoot rimfires ever produced. Those days can now be relived with today’s T-Bolt, a rifle every bit the equal of the original, with new features that put this unique rifle in a class by itself. The straight T bolt design lets you load and eject with a simple pull back and push forward. This system is unequaled among rimfires for raw bolt action speed -- nearly as fast as a semi-auto 22. But you retain all the accuracy advantages of a bolt action design. Todays T-Bolt has even more than the original.

Double Helix. When you use the classic straight-pull bolt-action design to chamber each cartridge they are fed from the new 10-round rotary Double Helix™ (patent pending) box magazine. No magazine is like the Double Helix. And no magazine is easier to load and more reliable at feeding.

Three lever trigger accuracy. The T-Bolt’s three-lever trigger offers a light, crisp break, and every barrel is free floating. For those of you who are serious about rimfire accuracy will appreciate the new T-Bolt Target/Varmint model. It features a walnut stock with raised Monte Carlo comb and a heavy varmint barrel designed to provide pinpoint accuracy that rivals many custom rimfires costing much more.

Stock
T-Bolt rifle stocks are full-size with a satin finish and cut checkering on solid walnut. Target/Varmint models feature a Monte Carlo comb and wide forearm for stability on the bench. Standard T-Bolt is a sporter stock configuration. Both include dual action screws. Sling swivel studs installed. Synthetic buttplate.

Action
Receiver is machined from steel barstock. Features a classic crossbolt lockup, with an enlarged bolt handle pivot point moved forward for smoother action. Mainspring runs directly through the massive pivot pin. Cocking effort is split between opening and closing for ease of operation. One-piece dual extractor with integral spring and red cocking indicator band.

Trigger
Lightweight gold-tone trigger, black trigger guard and housing. The three-lever trigger design combined with a short-travel firing pin gives a crisp break, quick lock time, no take-up and minimal overtravel. Externally adjustable for pull weight.

Safety
Top-tang, thumb operated two-position safety can be operated without changing from a shooting grip.

Barrel
Target/Varmint model features a 22 heavy varmint profile. T-Bolt Sporter features a 22 medium sporter profile. Both are free-floating and have a semi-match chamber and target muzzle crown.

Sights
Receiver is drilled and tapped for scope mounts (scope not included).

Magazine
Patent pending Double Helix™ rotary box magazine. 10-round capacity. Easy to load and unload and perfect alignment with the chamber every time. This innovative design makes other rotary magazine designs look clunky and bulky.

any vews on it any 1 got one thanks

yubabill1 · 22-10-2014 07:57PM

Browning are one of the world's greatest gunmakers, but I am inherently suspicious of rotary magazines.

And don't believe the guys raving about their 10/22 Rugers. unless you enjoy tinkering with your rig on a regular basis.

I like things that go "bang" every time I press the trigger: It's hard to beat stone-age-simple stuff IMHO.

yubabill1 · 22-10-2014 08:12PM

extremetaz wrote: »

For sure the 22lr will do the job if you're close enough and your shot placement is spot on. The bigger advantage of the stinger though doesn't come from the fact that it's harder hitting (that helps of course though), it comes from the fact that it's flatter which means that you can place the shot better ...in theory.

The problem with them is that they loose accuracy once they start to go subsonic, and that happens at about 60~ish yards, maybe sooner, I don't use them - in any case, shot placement in this instance is of utmost importance, and hard enough to achieve as it is when you're hitting an animal that size with a bullet that small with that little energy - throw a heap of spread into your accurancy at anything after 60 yards and I'd start to call that impractical.

The Stinger is not magic fox medicine.

I have killed many foxes with them, including a memorable morning over 20 years ago, where I killed 3 together; the last breaking cover at 30 yards at full throttle when I had taken the other two down. I tumbled her on the run with a Stinger behind the front shoulder.

You need a head or heart shot, or else they will not stop. They will die, but somewhere away from you, unless you have a good dog.
Not ideal IMHO.

Stingers lose accuracy after about 80 or 85 yards, due to the trans-sonic Doppler effect. You can still body-shoot rabbits pretty much most of the time.

The biggest problem with Stingers is you need to remove copper fouling from the barrel (as you do with centrefires) because the Stinger has a copper jacket to stop the lead melting at high velocity.

I never shot a fox with 17HMR when I had one 10 or 11 years ago, but a reliable source tells me he dropped one recently with a heart shot at 92 yards. Knowing him, probably with 20gr HP.

killintime · 23-10-2014 11:47AM

yes i like the browning firearms as well its what i use most of the time but have not used one of these yet Browning T-Bolt Target Varmint .17 HMR 16.5 Inch so not to how they handle at the mo

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