Gameweek 9 Transfers.

IsMiseMyself · 22-10-2014 09:47AM

Fecking Costa. Looks like he'll be spending the weekend hanging out on my subs bench.

G1032 · 22-10-2014 09:57AM

Suarezistheman wrote: »

I have the same template forward line. Unfortunately even if I downgrade De Gea I still cannot afford Baines without chopping either ADM or Sterling. Would love if ADM was out for a while... make that decision easier... or Costa even... could get Peile in!

I can keep my template midfield and Costa, Aguero and Welbeck and get Baines in if I go

Clyne - Baines
PVA - Hutton (or cheaper)
Fabianski - Krul or Foster

This would be a -4. Would it be a good idea?
No Pelle, no Tadic, no Southampton at all!!

NabyLadistheman · 22-10-2014 09:58AM

Thing about Costa is if I were to get rid of him the max I would lose on him is .3 (10.5 -->11.1) He is liable to drop again so that would bring him down another .1 making him easier to get back in when he is back. The damage might not be as bad for anyone considering it. Obviously Mourinho playing games but who knows what sort of damage he has done.

Antibac · 22-10-2014 10:14AM

Am looking at Baines in and was checking out Coleman as an alternative as he is cheaper. Why is everyone after Baines as Coleman out scored him last season?

kolczastyy · 22-10-2014 10:20AM

How you guess... it comes right time to sell Siggy? or he has such good ratio price/points that is must have apart from schedule?

Swansea's schedule:
Leicester H
Everton A
Arsenal H
City A
Palace H
QPR H
West Ham A
Spurs H

Gaillimh1976 · 22-10-2014 10:23AM

Antibac wrote: »

Am looking at Baines in and was checking out Coleman as an alternative as he is cheaper. Why is everyone after Baines as Coleman out scored him last season?

Baines takes set-pieces

LostArt · 22-10-2014 10:26AM

kolczastyy wrote: »

How you guess... it comes right time to sell Siggy? or he has such good ratio price/points that is must have apart from schedule?

Swansea's schedule:
Leicester H
Everton A
Arsenal H
City A
Palace H
QPR H
West Ham A
Spurs H

I'm considering cutting him after this weekend and getting him back in for Palace and Qpr

Antibac · 22-10-2014 10:26AM

Gaillimh1976 wrote: »

Baines takes set-pieces

But he took them last year also and was outscored?

Was he injured? Or is there something else I'm missing?

kolczastyy · 22-10-2014 10:30AM

LostArt wrote: »

I'm considering cutting him after this weekend and getting him back in for Palace and Qpr

but is costs you 0,3M then. do you think still worth?

Iused2likebusts · 22-10-2014 10:32AM

Antibac wrote: »

Am looking at Baines in and was checking out Coleman as an alternative as he is cheaper. Why is everyone after Baines as Coleman out scored him last season?

Due to penos baines has a 20 to 30 pt head start.

FHFC · 22-10-2014 10:32AM

G1032 wrote: »

I can keep my template midfield and Costa, Aguero and Welbeck and get Baines in if I go

Clyne - Baines
PVA - Hutton (or cheaper)
Fabianski - Krul or Foster

This would be a -4. Would it be a good idea?
No Pelle, no Tadic, no Southampton at all!!

This part is not a good idea IMO.

Gaillimh1976 wrote: »

Baines takes set-pieces

Antibac wrote: »

But he took them last year also and was outscored?

Was he injured? Or is there something else I'm missing?

Coleman gets more goals from play, or has done. He is the highest goal scoring defender in the PL over the past 12 months with 8 goals I think.

So its a matter of whether you think Coleman will continue to get on the end of tap ins and hit the odd screamer. Given they are practically the same money the man with the set pieces, direct fks and penalties has to be statistically the better bet.

LostArt · 22-10-2014 10:44AM

kolczastyy wrote: »

but is costs you 0,3M then. do you think still worth?

I think he'll drop .1 maybe even .2

G1032 · 22-10-2014 10:47AM

G1032 wrote: »

The team that's 7th in the world seems to have it all!!

Krul, Gilks

Alderweireld, Baines, Duff, Dummett, Wisdom

Fab, Sterling, ADM, Siggy, Gibson

Aguero, Coata, Welbeck

Out of top 15 teams in the world:

11 have Baines
12 have ADM
5 have Fabregas
8 have Sterling

Only 3 of the worlds top 10 teams have Sterling.

I know that the overall placings don't mean much yet and I wouldn't pay huge attention to their teams at this early stage but still.....!!

I'd much rather get a look at the FFS HoF teams and see how many of the top guys have Baines and what their teams look like. Won't be able to check that out until this evening so if someone has the time/access could they do this??!!:)

HoF Baines analysis below

HoF Rank GW Transfers Southampton Attack Baines Fabregas ADM Sterling
1 0 Pelle 1 1 1 1
2 0 Davis 1 1 1
3 0 Tadic 1 1
4 0 1 1 1 1
5 0 1 1 1
6 0 1 1 1
7 0 Tadic, Pelle 1 1 1
8 0 Tadic 1 1 1
9 0 1 1 1
10 1 Pelle 1 1 1

Summary –
4 have Baines
8 have Fabregas
10 have ADM
9 have Sterling

Just half of them have Southampton attacking cover (I’m not going to include Davis). Only one has both Pelle and Tadic.

Only one player has made his transfer this week already. He already has Pelle and it’s possible he switched Ivanovic to Baines (I’m going to assume this because it’s unlikely he brought in Tadic when he already has Pelle)

Incidentally just 4 of those guys have Aguero!!

None of them seem to be selling Sterling or ADM just yet anyway. Anyone who doesn’t have Southampton attacking cover hasn’t rushed out to get it. They seem none too concerned about having Aguero.

So make what you will of that!! I’m still none the wiser about what to do.

Bugg · 22-10-2014 11:18AM

Thinking of taking a 4 point hit to get in Aguero, my team is currently:

Begovic, Mannone
Moreno, Ivanovic, Clyne, Hutton, Coloccini
Fabregas, Sterling, Sigurdsson, Di Maria, Zaha
Costa, Pelle, Ulloa

I've got 2 FT and .9 in the bank so I was thinking

Ivanovic -> Taylor
Di Maria -> Chadli
Ulloa -> Aguero

Is it too much downgrading both Ivanovic and Di Maria just to get Aguero?

iroced · 22-10-2014 11:38AM

G1032 wrote: »

The team that's 7th in the world seems to have it all!!

Krul, Gilks

Alderweireld, Baines, Duff, Dummett, Wisdom

Fab, Sterling, ADM, Siggy, Gibson

Aguero, Coata, Welbeck

Yes but what's impossible is to have Pellè instead of Welbeck in this all star "dream" team.

Re selling Sterling... Went from

G1032 wrote: »

Only 3 of the worlds top 10 teams have Sterling.

I know that the overall placings don't mean much yet and I wouldn't pay huge attention to their teams at this early stage but still.....!!

Yeaaa

... to

G1032 wrote: »

HoF top 10 Baines analysis below
9 have Sterling

Nayyy

...

G1032 wrote: »

Incidentally just 4 of those guys have Aguero!!

Very surprised at that

.

G1032 · 22-10-2014 11:51AM

iroced wrote: »

Yes but what's impossible is to have Pellè instead of Welbeck in this all star "dream" team.

Re selling Sterling... Went from
Yeaaa ... to
Nayyy ...

Very surprised at that .

I did say that I'd like to have the HoF data as the rankings at the moment mean less to me than what the HoF guys are doing.
I then went and got the HoF data and it paints a different picture........

Just trying to get as much info as possible because as has been pointed out here already, this could well be a defining week in the FF season.

Re Pelle....Personally I'm just as happy to have Welbeck as have Pelle.

PARlance · 22-10-2014 11:53AM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Due to penos baines has a 20 to 30 pt head start.

But he was on them last year too and they finished up with very similar points returns. Coleman had slightly more points but played slightly more, I didn't do the maths but I think Baines just about edged him on a points per game basis.
This year Coleman is averaging 6.6 points a game, Baines only 5.5.

Early days yet but I can't see any real points difference between them this year either.
I think people get blinded a bit by the penos, set pieces. Yes it's an advantage but in general play Coleman makes up for that, and I think he's only getting better.

I only had 6.9 for a defender without a mini overhaul so I went for Coleman. I would have preferred (the safety in numbers of) Baines @ 7.0 but ultimately I see them matching each other so I'm not really concerned.

iroced · 22-10-2014 11:54AM

G1032 wrote: »

I did say that I'd like to have the HoF data as the rankings at the moment mean less to me than what the HoF guys are doing.
I then went and got the HoF data and it paints a different picture........

Yes I know. That's precisely the reason why I'm getting nervous now (I sold Sterling to accomodate Pellè).

Ziegler1988 · 22-10-2014 11:59AM

I think Coleman is a great choice, but the new BPS system also seems to favor Baines more. He took 3 baps last weekend while Coleman took 1 and killed him overall

G1032 · 22-10-2014 12:00PM

iroced wrote: »

Yes I know. That's precisely the reason why I'm getting nervous now (I sold Sterling to accomodate Pellè).

This is doing my nut. I'm seriously considering going down the 'no Southampton' route. Keep my midfield, keep my attack and still get Baines. It'll cost me 4 points but I'm basically choosing Sterling over Tadic. That's what it's coming down to for me now.

Iused2likebusts · 22-10-2014 12:03PM

PARlance wrote: »

But he was on them last year too and they finished up with very similar points returns. Coleman had slightly more points but played slightly more, I didn't do the maths but I think Baines just about edged him on a points per game basis.
This year Coleman is averaging 6.6 points a game, Baines only 5.5.

Early days yet but I can't see any real points difference between them this year either.
I think people get blinded a bit by the penos, set pieces. Yes it's an advantage but in general play Coleman makes up for that, and I think he's only getting better.

I only had 6.9 for a defender without a mini overhaul so I went for Coleman. I would have preferred (the safety in numbers of) Baines @ 7.0 but ultimately I see them matching each other so I'm not really concerned.

I suppose baines has done it over more seasons than coleman is maybe another way of looking at it. Im staying away from both for now anyway. I reckon baines is a better option for our teams when coleman doesnt play as everton attack more down the left as there is no point giving the ball out to hibbert whereas when coleman plays they have great attacking full backs on both sides.

Iused2likebusts · 22-10-2014 12:08PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I really want hazard and sanchez in my team for gw 10 home to qpr and burnley respectively. Now to figure out a way of doing it.
I was all on for baines but the way Im looking at it is baines moore or azpil kaboul. Azpil Kaboul for me.

I think Im now going to get wisdom in 3 nice fixtures coming up and most importantly gives me the .4 I need to be able to get hazard and sanchez in for adm and silva.

FHFC · 22-10-2014 12:15PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I think Im now going to get wisdom in 3 nice fixtures coming up and most importantly gives me the .4 I need to be able to get hazard and sanchez in for adm and silva.

Are you going Hazard + Fab?

Chesty08 · 22-10-2014 12:24PM

Lemlin wrote: »

For me the template front 3 is Pelle Costa Aguero, not Wellbeck. I've looked at my team and its impossible to have the template midfield and have Pelle. Now I'm monitoring Wellbeck but Pelle outscored him by 8 at the weekend (and has been outscoring him previously). He also has another home game this weekend. No way would I transfer him out at the minute.

As others have said, my option is:

Baines + Wellbeck vs Kaboul + Pelle.

I'm going to go with Kaboul + Pelle for now. I don't think there'll be much difference and I only need one transfer for it.

Why take Pelle v welbeck into consideration on this, surely it has to be Baines + Welbeck v Kaboul + Pelle & over the last few weeks Option 1 has been outscoring them. Welbeck is playing Sunderland this week, can see no reason to take him out either.

bezuaua · 22-10-2014 12:30PM

Almost decided on GW9 transfers (2FT):

Azpi ˃ Baines
ADM ˃ Eriksen

Baine’s next fixtures are great: Burnley (A), Swansea (H), Sunderland (A), West Ham (H).
To get him 1 of my top midfielders (ADM, Fabregas, Sterling) has to go…
First I planned to ship Sterling (tiredness issues + 2 CL games against Real Madrid) but I could only afford Tadic (already have Forster&Pellè and perhaps 3 southampton players would be too much) or Chadli. Tottenham also has a great run: Newcastle (H), Villa (A), Stoke (H), Hull (A) and imo Eriksen will get good returns.
ADM’s sacrifice is a big decision… he has been carrying MU on his shoulders and only PL to worry about, nevertheless MU’s next games are: Chelsea (H), City (A), Palace (H), Arsenal (A).

Also this move will make the funds to switch Fab ˃ Hazard next GW

Question is if I can wait on pulling the trigger until tomorrow night when Everton/Tottenham already played their EL games and IF azpi/ADM don’t go down in price (unlikely)?

Anyone to talk me out of it??

G1032 · 22-10-2014 12:52PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I suppose baines has done it over more seasons than coleman is maybe another way of looking at it. Im staying away from both for now anyway. I reckon baines is a better option for our teams when coleman doesnt play as everton attack more down the left as there is no point giving the ball out to hibbert whereas when coleman plays they have great attacking full backs on both sides.

Interesting theory here and another thing to think about. Have you data for points scored by Baines when Coleman has/has not played?
It'd interesting to see those figures...............

PARlance · 22-10-2014 01:08PM

G1032 wrote: »

Interesting theory here and another thing to think about. Have you data for points scored by Baines when Coleman has/has not played?
It'd interesting to see those figures...............

I had a quick look into that and I couldn't see much, too small of a sample size really.

However, I did see a stat recently...think it was Jamie Carragher on SS's as he was praising Coleman....
Everton:
Last 5 games without Coleman = No Wins
Last 5 games with Coleman = No Defeats

Baines & Coleman...they're good for each other

Ziegler1988 · 22-10-2014 01:11PM

bezuaua wrote: »

Question is if I can wait on pulling the trigger until tomorrow night when Everton/Tottenham already played their EL games and IF azpi/ADM don’t go down in price (unlikely)?

Anyone to talk me out of it??

Depends what price you bough ADM at, but FFF doesn't have him dropping for the next two days. Azpi is red flagged so it will take more transfers than normal for him to drop (but if you bought him at 6.0m it wouldn't matter anyway).

Lucas Hood · 22-10-2014 01:18PM

PARlance wrote: »

I had a quick look into that and I couldn't see much, too small of a sample size really.

However, I did see a stat recently...think it was Jamie Carragher on SS's as he was praising Coleman....
Everton:
Last 5 games without Coleman = No Wins
Last 5 games with Coleman = No Defeats

Baines & Coleman...they're good for each other

With should be 1 defeat & 1 draw.

larchielads · 22-10-2014 01:27PM

Costa and cattermole for berahino and hazard (already have fab) or costa and siggy for hazard and welbeck. Siggy and costa out for sanchez and welbeck.

Possible line ups. Siggy di maria hazard fab tadic berahino pelle aguero
or
Hazard di maria fab tadic cattermole welbeck pelke aguero
or
sanchez tadic fab di maria cattermole welbeck pelle aguero

I know di maria is a doubt at the min but that could change.

Went from 6th to 2nd in my league now wanna push on and itll only cost me -4 to get any of those line ups
what you think lads ?

Gameweek 9 Transfers.

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