Clare GAA discussion thread

letowski · 09-10-2014 10:04PM

Yeah its a tough one for the hurlers. Limerick will be gunning for revenge against us after the AI semi lasg year. They will have practically the same group again, bar maybe a few of their minors so it will be difficult. The big difference between us is that they are a seasoned team now that has performed consistently well in Munster the last few years, while our form has been, well, a joke (is it 1 win in 5 years?).

Tricky enough for the footballers too, as there us pressure there now to build on their good season this year.

Boots234 · 11-10-2014 04:18PM

What time is the intermediate football final on at tonight? The Clare GAA website is very helpful as usual with the details down as TBC even though the game is on this evening!

Just saw on Wolfe Tones twitter page that the game was on earlier today, I thought it was on this evening. Good win for the Tones

windy shepard henderson · 11-10-2014 05:08PM

Boots234 wrote: »

What time is the intermediate football final on at tonight? The Clare GAA website is very helpful as usual with the details down as TBC even though the game is on this evening!

Just saw on Wolfe Tones twitter page that the game was on earlier today, I thought it was on this evening. Good win for the Tones

yeah it was on at half one today , good game was very close , probably corofin should have won it they missed a penalty and a fair few scoreable frees , a bit like the first day when they failed to put tones away

wolfe tones scored 3 unanswered points in the end to win by 1 a big win for them today , they could have struggled to go back up next year had they not won today, if corofin can improve on this years performances they will go up in the not too distant future

windy shepard henderson · 11-10-2014 05:32PM

just an edit on that the final score in the intermediate football final

wolft tones 1-10 2-06 corofin

tomorrow times for the junior and senior finals

JFC final
naomh eoin v coolmeen @ cusack park 13:30

SFC final
cratloe v eire og @ cusack park 15:30

cnoc · 11-10-2014 06:32PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

yeah it was on at half one today , good game was very close , probably corofin should have won it they missed a penalty and a fair few scoreable frees , a bit like the first day when they failed to put tones away

wolfe tones scored 3 unanswered points in the end to win by 1 a big win for them today , they could have struggled to go back up next year had they not won today, if corofin can improve on this years performances they will go up in the not too distant future

Is it true that Corofin protested to the ref that the game was a draw?[/I]

windy shepard henderson · 11-10-2014 07:55PM

cnoc wrote: »

Is it true that Corofin protested to the ref that the game was a draw?[/I]

yeah there was some protest at the end , it was a little too easy getting out of miltown alright however i didnt know the reason behind the protest , i taught they were complaining about the added time because there was a stoppage on the 30min mark and he only played just over 2 added minuets afterwards

there should have been alot more tie added on , but i didnt think there was an issue with the scoreboard before the full time whistle. corofin do record all there games there manager james murrihy is a big fan of video analysis so i am sure they will have no problem reporting any issues to the county board if there are any

square ball · 12-10-2014 02:00AM

I thought the ref had another bad game. Very inconsistent and let a few off the ball incidents go. One near the end when he seen a Wolfe Tones player blatantly strike a Corofin player and ended up giving both yellows. Few very strange calls as well. He shouldn't have gotten the game after how poor he was in the first game but to be fair it had little influence on the result.

Wolfe Tones probably deserved it slightly more. Even with Corofin's penalty miss and wide's from frees Wolfe Tones had 3 or 4 chances where they could have gone for goal but somehow ended up fisting wide. If they were more clinical they should really have been out of sight. Was disappointed with Wolfe Tones forwards over the two games. Gary Leahy is the only forward they have that you would back to finish chances if he gets them. Corofin were naive at times in their use of the ball but look to have a very young team so I'd imagine they will challenge again next year. Wolfe Tones have an awful lot of work to do if they are to stay senior next year.

LuckyGent88 · 12-10-2014 12:45PM

Hopefully a good game of football is produced in the pairc today with us townies coming out on top in the end. Expect a pretty decent crowd at the match today also.
Both teams seem to have very skillful players so hopefully an open game is in store. Just a pity I'm 10000km away

Gael85 · 12-10-2014 03:45PM

Well done to Naomh Eoin on winning Junior Championship.Beat Coolmeen 0-10 to 1-5

Gael85 · 12-10-2014 03:48PM

square ball wrote: »

I thought the ref had another bad game. Very inconsistent and let a few off the ball incidents go. One near the end when he seen a Wolfe Tones player blatantly strike a Corofin player and ended up giving both yellows. Few very strange calls as well. He shouldn't have gotten the game after how poor he was in the first game but to be fair it had little influence on the result.

Wolfe Tones probably deserved it slightly more. Even with Corofin's penalty miss and wide's from frees Wolfe Tones had 3 or 4 chances where they could have gone for goal but somehow ended up fisting wide. If they were more clinical they should really have been out of sight. Was disappointed with Wolfe Tones forwards over the two games. Gary Leahy is the only forward they have that you would back to finish chances if he gets them. Corofin were naive at times in their use of the ball but look to have a very young team so I'd imagine they will challenge again next year. Wolfe Tones have an awful lot of work to do if they are to stay senior next year.

Do Stephen Monaghan or David Reidy play with Wolfe Tones anymore?Were decent forwards

windy shepard henderson · 12-10-2014 07:11PM

cratloe 2-12 - 0-11 eire og

podge man of the match probably his best display all year , in fairness it was probably cratloe's best performance of the championship , eire og fought hard but didnt have the same quality up front today, they are a very young team and they will be back

fair play too to eire og there supporters brought great color and atmosphere to cusack park to day and they had the town decorated all week in advance ,they made the attenndance look bigger then the 7100 anounced

but cratloe have the bar raised in clare and it will be up to every one else to catch them.......in both codes , they will be major contenders now for a munster double in my opinion

Fort Stranger · 12-10-2014 07:27PM

I just uploaded a video on to YouTube with a little song I wrote and recorded with the help of a friend here across the water, it's called "up for the match - Kilkenny hurling song" it's a bit of a giggle, we are not musicians, but hope it gets a few laughs! I wrote it after the drawn game, I could probably put another verse about the replay on now but anyway enjoy and pass it on if you like it!

marco_polo · 12-10-2014 09:20PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

cratloe 2-12 - 0-11 eire og

podge man of the match probably his best display all year , in fairness it was probably cratloe's best performance of the championship , eire og fought hard but didnt have the same quality up front today, they are a very young team and they will be back

fair play too to eire og there supporters brought great color and atmosphere to cusack park to day and they had the town decorated all week in advance ,they made the attenndance look bigger then the 7100 anounced

but cratloe have the bar raised in clare and it will be up to every one else to catch them.......in both codes , they will be major contenders now for a munster double in my opinion

Fantastic achievement alright, they definitely must a decent shout at Munster in both codes, it will take a colossal effort to land one or both but you wouldn't out anything past that group of players with the way they are motoring this year.

keeponhurling · 12-10-2014 09:48PM

So by my reckoning they have next weekend off, and can regroup to play ballygunner in 2 weeks time in the hurling.

Luckily they have a bye to the semi final of the football, and with cork and Kerry on the other side of the draw, in theory at least it's worked out ideally

Rightwing · 12-10-2014 10:18PM

marco_polo wrote: »

Fantastic achievement alright, they definitely must a decent shout at Munster in both codes, it will take a colossal effort to land one or both but you wouldn't out anything past that group of players with the way they are motoring this year.

Not a hope of that.

Is it the first time a double has been done in Clare?

square ball · 12-10-2014 11:20PM

Gael85 wrote: »

Do Stephen Monaghan or David Reidy play with Wolfe Tones anymore?Were decent forwards

No. Think Reidy had to retire due to injury. Monaghan wasn't on the panel. Very good player bit of a waste considering the talent he had.

Fair play to Cratloe. Some achievement to do the double especially with so many of the same players. Should be the role model for every club in the country.

Hope Eire Og stay strong over the next few years. Football in the county needs Eire Og going well. They seem to come good every few years win a championship and go back to being mediocre again. They should be in the shake up every year especailly considering the resources available to them.

marco_polo · 13-10-2014 12:02AM

Rightwing wrote: »

Not a hope of that.

Is it the first time a double has been done in Clare?

Not saying a double is in the bag or anything like that

, just saying they would be considered to have a shot a title in either code? They went pretty close in the football after all last year. But even to win one with the same bunch of players would be a serious achievement with the demands on their bodies over the next few weeks.

Apparently Ennis Dalcassians did the double a long time ago, possibly early 1900s I think.

EDIT: Looks like 1890 according to Eire Og wiki page.

washman3 · 13-10-2014 12:21AM

See that John Galvin started for Cratloe today. How did it go for him.?
Legend on a man. Was one of the best midfielders in the country over the last decade or more. Robbed of an all-star because of media cronyism.
Really hope Cratloe go on and win a Munster with him on board.

Rightwing · 13-10-2014 12:22AM

marco_polo wrote: »

Not saying a double is in the bag or anything like that , just saying they would be considered to have a shot a title in either code? They went pretty close in the football after all last year. But even to win one with the same bunch of players would be a serious achievement with the demands on their bodies over the next few weeks.

Apparently Ennis Dalcassians did the double a long time ago, possibly early 1900s I think.

EDIT: Looks like 1890 according to Eire Og wiki page.

6/1 for the hurling and 7/4 for the football. Surprised they are priced that short for the football, if the bookies are right, the double is very doable.

Browney7 · 13-10-2014 01:03AM

Rightwing wrote: »

6/1 for the hurling and 7/4 for the football. Surprised they are priced that short for the football, if the bookies are right, the double is very doable.

With crokes gone in Kerry its realistically between them and the Cork champions. Remember, divisional teams can't compete so that rules a lot of Kerry teams out.

Fireball07 · 13-10-2014 01:39AM

I'd give Cratloe a very good chance in the football. Ran Crokes very close last year, and you'd think they'd be slightly stronger this year. Would love the great man, John Galvin, to win a Munster.

Purely on paper, you'd give them a great chance in the hurling too... they have a serious outfit. The hurling will be very competitive though, but the dual thing could hinder them there. Na Piarsaigh are stronger than ever this year, if they win Limerick, I really can't see them being beaten tbh.

marco_polo · 13-10-2014 02:56AM

Browney7 wrote: »

With crokes gone in Kerry its realistically between them and the Cork champions. Remember, divisional teams can't compete so that rules a lot of Kerry teams out.

What stage is the Senior football at in Kerry, Crokes are still listed on the PP betting for the Munster club championship, so there must be only divisional teams left in the main Kerry SFC, presumably with Crokes still in the munster hunt as possible winners of the clubs only championship in Kerry?.

EDIT: Figured it out I think with some lurking in the Kerry discussion thread, Austin Stacks face Mid Kerry in the final, but if Mid Kerry win then the winner of the county club championship, not Austin Stacks, will represent Kerry in Munster (Dr Crokes vs Killarney Legion)

LuckyGent88 · 13-10-2014 09:05AM

square ball wrote: »

No. Think Reidy had to retire due to injury. Monaghan wasn't on the panel. Very good player bit of a waste considering the talent he had.

Fair play to Cratloe. Some achievement to do the double especially with so many of the same players. Should be the role model for every club in the country.

Hope Eire Og stay strong over the next few years. Football in the county needs Eire Og going well. They seem to come good every few years win a championship and go back to being mediocre again. They should be in the shake up every year especailly considering the resources available to them.

Disappointed that eire og couldn't get the victory but realistically I couldn't see cratloe been beaten. They have a massive drive and determination this year to do well in both codes and they have pulled it off. I'd say the lack of support by Davy for the dual players gave the cratloe panel a bit of an incentive to win both too.

Pretty good year for eire og at senior level and overall as well. Underage setup is doing very well and bothe senior teams are quite young so hopefully this years final experiences bring future success.

Pretty sure reidy had 2 or 3 cruiciate injuries in consecutive years. Extremely unlucky by all accounts

Shannonsider · 13-10-2014 02:55PM

What happens if Cratloe make it to Paddy's Day in both codes (not sure how many dual players they have)? Presume both are still played one after the other?

Mountainlad · 13-10-2014 05:25PM

Shannonsider wrote: »

What happens if Cratloe make it to Paddy's Day in both codes (not sure how many dual players they have)? Presume both are still played one after the other?

They won't have to worry about that.

I'd give them a chance in the football if they want it. They have the experience from last year where say I'm pretty sure its a while since Ballylanders won Limerick, and the same could be said for Carberry (don't know have Ballincollig ever won a Senior county), Austin Stacks and The Nire. Crokes wouldn't be as strong without Gooch, and while Stradbally have won Waterford recently I don't think they'd be as strong as Cratloe.

Fatigue may yet be there downfall, I'm certain it will play a part in them losing the hurling which I feel is inevitable. Too many good teams in Ballygunner, Na Piarsaigh, Sarsfields, Thurles Sarsfields/Loughmore who all have more experience then Cratloe in Munster Senior club and will be solely focused on hurling for as long as they're still involved.

Rightwing · 13-10-2014 08:35PM

Mountainlad wrote: »

They won't have to worry about that.

I'd give them a chance in the football if they want it. They have the experience from last year where say I'm pretty sure its a while since Ballylanders won Limerick, and the same could be said for Carberry (don't know have Ballincollig ever won a Senior county), Austin Stacks and The Nire. Crokes wouldn't be as strong without Gooch, and while Stradbally have won Waterford recently I don't think they'd be as strong as Cratloe.

Fatigue may yet be there downfall, I'm certain it will play a part in them losing the hurling which I feel is inevitable. Too many good teams in Ballygunner, Na Piarsaigh, Sarsfields, Thurles Sarsfields/Loughmore who all have more experience then Cratloe in Munster Senior club and will be solely focused on hurling for as long as they're still involved.

They won it about 6 years ago.

Talking to a few today,, and the consensus is that Cratloe have a far better chance in the football.

PP the sneaky b*stards having dr corkes in their betting, hoping to trap a few mug punters. Well done to whoever pointed that 1 out.

Shannonsider · 14-10-2014 04:24PM

Mountainlad wrote: »

They won't have to worry about that.

I'd give them a chance in the football if they want it. They have the experience from last year where say I'm pretty sure its a while since Ballylanders won Limerick, and the same could be said for Carberry (don't know have Ballincollig ever won a Senior county), Austin Stacks and The Nire. Crokes wouldn't be as strong without Gooch, and while Stradbally have won Waterford recently I don't think they'd be as strong as Cratloe.

Fatigue may yet be there downfall, I'm certain it will play a part in them losing the hurling which I feel is inevitable. Too many good teams in Ballygunner, Na Piarsaigh, Sarsfields, Thurles Sarsfields/Loughmore who all have more experience then Cratloe in Munster Senior club and will be solely focused on hurling for as long as they're still involved.

My query was more what would happen IF they reached both finals, would they both be on one after another? Probably not the best place to ask

Boom__Boom · 14-10-2014 04:48PM

Rightwing wrote: »

PP the sneaky b*stards having dr corkes in their betting, hoping to trap a few mug punters. Well done to whoever pointed that 1 out.

Crokes can still end up playing in the Munster Club championship.

If Mid Kerry beat Stacks in the County Championship final, the winner of the Club Championship - which is Crokes against Legion, will end up representing Kerry in the Munster Club championship.

The reason for this is that divisional sides aren't allowed take part in the Munster Championship.

The rule was brought in when East Kerry a divisional side won the first All-Ireland club championship.

Boom__Boom · 14-10-2014 04:49PM

Serious statement of intent by the Clare footballers.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2014/1014/652244-former-nemo-boss-joins-clare-set-up/

Boom__Boom · 14-10-2014 04:53PM

Shannonsider wrote: »

My query was more what would happen IF they reached both finals, would they both be on one after another? Probably not the best place to ask

I'd imagine the authorities are hoping/praying that they would be knocked out long before then.

I really can't see it being an issue either - the effort of being on the go weekend after weekend in both codes in the depths of winter will surely take it's toll, especially when there is such a high number of lads involved in both codes.

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