Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

michael999999 · 12-10-2014 08:04PM

p38 wrote: »

Im guessing it will be sturridge and balotteli up front. Anyone know how lallana played tonight or if he did play did he play a full 90 mins

Lallana was very good from the bits I watched. Think he played the whole game. Hendo also started but didn't play full game. Sterling and Lambert also came on.

gafferino · 12-10-2014 08:07PM

For some reason I thought england were playing Tuesday. Full weeks rest for the lads which is great and none of them playing the full 90.

brevity · 12-10-2014 09:23PM

An interesting article on the way we are working on sponsorship deals etc..

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/exclusive---580-million-reasons-7922473

SuperTortoise · 12-10-2014 09:30PM

Only seen 15 mins of the England game how did our lads do?

I will add, i nearly had a sh1t fit when i did'nt see Sterling play, i thought he got Hodged!

gafferino · 12-10-2014 10:19PM

Guardian reporting saying Sterling didn't start as he was tired, not surprised given the amount of games lately, but this needs to be managed. It's only October.

Utopia Parkway · 12-10-2014 10:37PM

gafferino wrote: »

Guardian reporting saying Sterling didn't start as he was tired, not surprised given the amount of games lately, but this needs to be managed. It's only October.

Don't think Hodgson needed to tell everyone that. I see Sterling is already getting some stick for it. Could have just started him on the bench without blabbing.

gafferino · 12-10-2014 10:41PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Don't think Hodgson needed to tell everyone that. I see Sterling is already getting some stick for it. Could have just started him on the bench without blabbing.

Roy Hodgson. That is all.

Agent Coulson · 12-10-2014 11:02PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Don't think Hodgson needed to tell everyone that. I see Sterling is already getting some stick for it. Could have just started him on the bench without blabbing.

Rodgers called out Hodgson for what happened Sturridge.

This is Hodgson's way of getting back at Rodgers.

garra · 12-10-2014 11:11PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Rodgers called out Hodgson for what happened Sturridge.

This is Hodgson's way of getting back at Rodgers.

Probably just Hodgson trying to save face with media after another tepid english performance. If Sterling is tired its because of too many first team matches & travelling for his club side, Rodgers has said and done completely different things when it comes to managing his game time.

Vicxas · 13-10-2014 06:09AM

This Sterling tiredness thing is going to snowball.

Dickerty · 13-10-2014 07:40AM

Vicxas wrote: »

Lallendo.

Isn't that near Rhyl??

NukaCola · 13-10-2014 08:27AM

Vicxas wrote: »

This Sterling tiredness thing is going to snowball.

Obviously Roy is trying to start some sort of club vs country row with BR. Very naive and unnecessary thing to start, with only one winner really.

Francie Barrett · 13-10-2014 08:46AM

Woy really is just becoming a detestable parody of himself at this stage. The club have bent over backwards to try and accommodate him and keep him in the fold, but then he comes out with comments like this in a pathetic attempt to detract from his own shortcomings.

Vicxas · 13-10-2014 08:50AM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Woy really is just becoming a detestable parody of himself at this stage. The club have bent over backwards to try and accommodate him and keep him in the fold, but then he comes out with comments like this in a pathetic attempt to detract from his own shortcomings.

Its smacks of distraction, sure England have won their matches, but not well.

I can smell Scapegoat coming a mile away.

greendom · 13-10-2014 08:58AM

In light of the fuss made by Liverpool and Rodgers on how carefully Sturridge needs to be managed, I think it was fair comment

gafferino · 13-10-2014 09:06AM

greendom wrote: »

In light of the fuss made by Liverpool and Rodgers on how carefully Sturridge needs to be managed, I think it was fair comment

Why is it a fair comment? Its not tit for tat.

It brings an unnecessary spotlight on one of his players which is not going to do the team or player any good. Doesnt matter if its a Liverpool player or not.

Sturridge situation was completely different. Its not the first time Sturridge came back from England injured. Again doesnt matter if its a Liverpool player or not.

greendom · 13-10-2014 09:19AM

gafferino wrote: »

Why is it a fair comment? Its not tit for tat.

It brings an unnecessary spotlight on one of his players which is not going to do the team or player any good. Doesnt matter if its a Liverpool player or not.

Sturridge situation was completely different. Its not the first time Sturridge came back from England injured. Again doesnt matter if its a Liverpool player or not.

Liverpool seemed to lay the blame on the Sturridge injury due to the England coaching team not giving him the necessary care and attention. Sterling said he was tired and the coaching staff listened and didn't start him

SlickRic · 13-10-2014 09:24AM

Hodgson is just continuing a trend of being self-serving in everything he says and does.

while our manager, he tried to lower expectations exponentially so as to cover his own ineptitude.

I've lost count of the amount of times he's referenced his "successful" career around Europe.

and so we come to this. any normal manager in the Sterling situation would just have said "we felt as though Raheem needed a rest, and with the quality we have, we felt we didn't necessarily need to risk him in this game". but no. instead Roy, I assume worried about some kind of "backlash" if he was seen to take Sterling out the team, decides to spinelessly put all the responsibility on Sterling's shoulders.

cowardly.

spineless.

selfish.

completely and utterly unsurprising.

DVDM93 · 13-10-2014 09:30AM

Sterling's response on Twitter;

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-star-raheem-sterling-responds-4429322

He's spot on too. Between May to October 2013 he played 615 minutes. Between May to October 2014 he's played 1682 minutes. He's only 19 for God's sake!

Besides, England should be beating Estonia with their second team nevermind needing the likes of Rooney or Sterling.

It's pathetic that the spotlight is on Sterling because of this. The funny thing is, if he played last night and played poorly, you'd have England saying he needs a rest. It really is to distract how poorly they're playing with a squad like that against the likes of Estonia.

greendom · 13-10-2014 09:33AM

DVDM93 wrote: »

Sterling's response on Twitter;

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-star-raheem-sterling-responds-4429322

He's spot on too. Between May to October 2013 he played 615 minutes. Between May to October 2014 he's played 1682 minutes. He's only 19 for God's sake!

Besides, England should be beating Estonia with their second team nevermind needing the likes of Rooney or Sterling.

It's pathetic that the spotlight is on Sterling because of this. The funny thing is, if he played last night and played poorly, you'd have England saying he needs a rest. It really is to distract how poorly they're playing with a squad like that against the likes of Estonia.

How many of those minutes did he play for Liverpool ? How many for England? Surely his tiredness is not entirely down to England ?

DVDM93 · 13-10-2014 09:36AM

greendom wrote: »

How many of those minutes did he play for Liverpool ? How many for England? Surely his tiredness is not entirely down to England ?

????? It's not an England v Liverpool thing. I'm not Roy Hodgson. The lad needed a rest, end of story. If he says he's too tired to play against QPR I'll be of the same opinion.

rob316 · 13-10-2014 09:51AM

The expectation with sturridge out and Suarez sold was that he could carry Liverpool. He hasn't been able to and his performances lately have shown that, the lad is only 19 ffs.
In the space of about 9 months he has went from a benchwarmer to Liverpool and England's next great hope, to say his rise has been meteoric is an understatement.
No surprise he is knackered.

I do have a slight worry all this contract/future stuff does have him a bit distracted. He seems like a fairly genuine and down to earth guy though.

gafferino · 13-10-2014 10:04AM

greendom wrote: »

Liverpool seemed to lay the blame on the Sturridge injury due to the England coaching team not giving him the necessary care and attention. Sterling said he was tired and the coaching staff listened and didn't start him

Why are you making this a Liverpool Vs England thing? The point that was being made that it wasnt a wise comment by Hodgson to make about one of his own players.

Liverpool made comments about Sturridge coming back injured AGAIN from England. As has many other manager over the years when their players come back injured.

Edit: I am assuming you are Arsenal fan. A quick search will show Wenger complaining about injured players on international duty or tired players.

http://www.justarsenal.com/wenger-not-happy-with-injuries-to-vermaelen-and-van-persie-no/12827

Not that it should matter what club it is but that seems to be your angle and you have essentially missed the point of the argument.

greendom · 13-10-2014 10:08AM

gafferino wrote: »

Why are you making this a Liverpool Vs England thing? The point that was being made that it wasnt a wise comment by Hodgson to make about one of his own players.

Liverpool made comments about Sturridge coming back injured AGAIN from England. As has many other manager over the years when their players come back injured.

We're going round in circles here. I don't want to get dizzy so I'm getting off

Sideshow Mark · 13-10-2014 10:20AM

How dare Hodgson single out a young player like that, he has an axe to grind against Liverpool and will throw his own players under the bus to do it. Once again Hodgson shows himself up to be completely classless. An utterly contemptible man.

Hangballlouie · 13-10-2014 10:24AM

Turty is right and I for one cannot wait until he is back.

greendom · 13-10-2014 10:34AM

gafferino wrote: »

Why are you making this a Liverpool Vs England thing? The point that was being made that it wasnt a wise comment by Hodgson to make about one of his own players.

Liverpool made comments about Sturridge coming back injured AGAIN from England. As has many other manager over the years when their players come back injured.

Edit: I am assuming you are Arsenal fan. A quick search will show Wenger complaining about injured players on international duty or tired players.

http://www.justarsenal.com/wenger-not-happy-with-injuries-to-vermaelen-and-van-persie-no/12827

Not that it should matter what club it is but that seems to be your angle and you have essentially missed the point of the argument.

Oh no I get the point of the argument - Hodgson can do no right, as for Wenger and indeed probably every team manager, of course he's going to be happy about a player returning injured. Hodgson just stated that he did the right thing in resting a player, I can't see where all the outrage is coming from.

gafferino · 13-10-2014 10:51AM

greendom wrote: »

Oh no I get the point of the argument - Hodgson can do no right, as for Wenger and indeed probably every team manager, of course he's going to be happy about a player returning injured. Hodgson just stated that he did the right thing in resting a player, I can't see where all the outrage is coming from.

You have missed the point then. It is not that Hodgson can do no right. The comments from Hodgson have led to his player now getting a tonne of abuse from twitter, the press etc. So as to my very first point on this, and THE point, Hodgson has needlessly brought pressure on one of his players. He could have made up any old thing.... sore foot, black toe nail.

Hodgson is a blithering idiot imo - and this is pretty obvious to most football fans. This, however is not the point here.

greendom · 13-10-2014 10:59AM

gafferino wrote: »

You have missed the point then. It is not that Hodgson can do no right. The comments from Hodgson have led to his player now getting a tonne of abuse from twitter, the press etc. So as to my very first point on this, and THE point, Hodgson has needlessly brought pressure on one of his players. He could have made up any old thing.... sore foot, black toe nail.

Hodgson is a blithering idiot imo - and this is pretty obvious to most football fans. This, however is not the point here.

tonne of abuse from twitter and the press ? He's a professional footballer, not to mention an England international, that's par for the course. All players playing at the top level of football can expect to receive such abuse and need to develop a tough skin to cope.

Hangballlouie · 13-10-2014 11:03AM

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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

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