Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

gafferino

greendom wrote: »

tonne of abuse from twitter and the press ? He's a professional footballer, not to mention an England international, that's par for the course. All players playing at the top level of football can expect to receive such abuse and need to develop a tough skin to cope.

Yeah I agree, thats part of the deal these days. But thats not the point here is it? Hodgson could have easily avoided it.

gafferino

hangballlouie wrote: »

https://vine.co/v/OA0HLzE39Q9

My favourite so far .....

Sideshow Mark

greendom wrote: »

tonne of abuse from twitter and the press ? He's a professional footballer, not to mention an England international, that's par for the course.

A professional footballer who a year ago was playing for the Liverpool under 21s.

One if the many things that Fergie got right is that as a manager you shield your players. Hodgson has never understood this, which is why England or any high profile teams he manages will never be successful.

Hangballlouie

gafferino wrote: »

My favourite so far .....

I love that one. I've posted about 4-5 in the humour thread this week. They are a gift from heaven.

gafferino

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/172190-emre-why-i-feel-at-home-here-already

"My English is much better now," said the No.23. "I did know a bit of English beforehand but I'm not fluent. I'm having quite a few English lessons each week and it's getting better. There are a lot of foreign players here from Spain and elsewhere and that's made it easier for me.

ahem... cough cough...

Harry Palmr

Naming rights for new stand up for grabs

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/13/liverpool-anfield-naming-rights-main-stand

Any suggestions? "Apple Iphone 28"? "Windows 2017"?

Grayditch

I'd say Sterling is feeling fresh after being hung out to dry, there.

Harry Palmr

gafferino wrote: »

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/172190-emre-why-i-feel-at-home-here-already

"My English is much better now," said the No.23. "I did know a bit of English beforehand but I'm not fluent. I'm having quite a few English lessons each week and it's getting better. There are a lot of foreign players here from Spain and elsewhere and that's made it easier for me.

ahem... cough cough...

Are you impugning the teaching skills of someone of this parish? :pac:

gafferino

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Are you impugning the teaching skills of someone of this parish? :pac:

Shanotheslayer

Grayditch wrote: »

I'd say Sterling is feeling fresh after being hung out to dry, there.

I heard he's unavailable at the weekend due to being thrown under the bus.

J Mysterio

Hodgson is a bit of a dick. I thought Keane's comments on him in his autobiography were revealing.

"As a manager I was enjoying the chats with other managers after the games. Not so much enjoying what was being said, but picking up on their vibes and listening out for a little snippet of wisdom. I’d be thinking, ‘What makes this club work?’, or ‘What are the staff like?’ So I went up to see Roy Hodgson, the Fulham manager, and his assistant, Ray Lewington. It was like the scene in Steve Cotterill’s office at Burnley the year before, but without the humour. Steve had turned his disappointment into a joke, but this was different. They were all going, ‘We’re ****ed, we’re ****ed.’

It was embarrassing. I had my Diet Coke and one of those little sausages, and we left. I remember thinking, ‘My goodness, they are ****ed.’
But they stayed up. Roy got the Liverpool job, and now he’s managing England"

I do think that Rodgers has over played Sterling though, and that was far from clever. He was always going to suffer burn out.

Utopia Parkway

J Mysterio wrote: »

I do think that Rodgers has over played Sterling though, and that was far from clever. He was always going to suffer burn out.

He rested him against Villa and people went mental. Unfortunately we played crap and he had to be brought on to try and rescue the game.

The one game he should have sat out was the Middlesboro game and of course it ended up going 120 minutes.

I think had Sturridge not got injured he may have rested Sterling a bit more but without Sturridge I imagine Rodgers was reluctant to do without Sterling as well.

Agent Coulson

From the Indian Super League

Agent Coulson

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/521481319386472449

gafferino

Kompany said of Origi: “He is very gifted and talented. Technically, he’s a monster.

“More importantly, he is an outstanding worker in training. I see him working like crazy.

“If he continues in this way, in a few years he will be among the five or ten best strikers in the world.”

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/10/13/ad-vincent-kompany-liverpool-striker-could-become-one-of-worlds/?

Harry Palmr

England have got a new U16s head coach - Liverpools ex U16s and U18s coach Steve Cooper.

Oranage2

J Mysterio wrote: »

Hodgson is a bit of a dick. I thought Keane's comments on him in his autobiography were revealing.

"As a manager I was enjoying the chats with other managers after the games. Not so much enjoying what was being said, but picking up on their vibes and listening out for a little snippet of wisdom. I’d be thinking, ‘What makes this club work?’, or ‘What are the staff like?’ So I went up to see Roy Hodgson, the Fulham manager, and his assistant, Ray Lewington. It was like the scene in Steve Cotterill’s office at Burnley the year before, but without the humour. Steve had turned his disappointment into a joke, but this was different. They were all going, ‘We’re ****ed, we’re ****ed.’

It was embarrassing. I had my Diet Coke and one of those little sausages, and we left. I remember thinking, ‘My goodness, they are ****ed.’
But they stayed up. Roy got the Liverpool job, and now he’s managing England"

I do think that Rodgers has over played Sterling though, and that was far from clever. He was always going to suffer burn out.

Yeah because Roy Keane knows the makings of a good manager?

Hodgson proved his worth in some of the biggest clubs around Europe, he also given no money to spend at pool and had similar if not better points to game ratio than both Kenny and Rodgers in their first seasons, and both those managers spent well in excess of 100 million!

Sterling got burn out before iirc 2 odd years ago and came back better than ever. Who says it's even that and not just being out of form? I'm sure a lot of pros have played as much if not more than him at that age, taken more punishment and come out the other end.

If Liverpool and England were playing to their potential nobody would be focusing so much on this. If he's so tired and there's all this concern then send him away for 2 or 3 weeks, don't just use it as an excuse for every bad game.

Harry Palmr

Oranage2 wrote: »

Yeah because Roy Keane knows the makings of a good manager?

Hodgson proved his worth in some of the biggest clubs around Europe, he also given no money to spend at pool and had similar if not better points to game ratio than both Kenny and Rodgers in their first seasons, and both those managers spent well in excess of 100 million!

HODGSON
Games 20
Won___7
Draw___4
Lost)___9
GD____-3
Points_25
PPG__1.25

DALGLISH
Games_____18
Won_______10
Draw_______3
Lost________5
GD_______+18
Points______33
PPG_______1.83

Dalglish would go on to disappoint in the league but my god in January 2011 he was the second coming!

As for Hodgson proven at some of Europes biggest clubs? Which ones? Blackburn? Inter Milan?

Bandana boy

Oranage2 wrote: »

Yeah because Roy Keane knows the makings of a good manager?

Hodgson proved his worth in some of the biggest clubs around Europe, he also given no money to spend at pool and had similar if not better points to game ratio than both Kenny and Rodgers in their first seasons, and both those managers spent well in excess of 100 million!

Except that is just not true neither similar and certainly not better.


Roy
League
Played 20 W7 D4 L9
Points 25

Kenny
Played 20 W11 D4 L5
Points 37

Rodgers
Played 20 W8 D7 L5
Points 31

Oranage2

Harry Palmr wrote: »

HODGSON
Games 20
Won___7
Draw___4
Lost)___9
GD____-3
Points_25
PPG__1.25

DALGLISH
Games_____18
Won_______10
Draw_______3
Lost________5
GD_______+18
Points______33
PPG_______1.83

Dalglish would go on to disappoint in the league but my god in January 2011 he was the second coming!

As for Hodgson proven at some of Europes biggest clubs? Which ones? Blackburn? Inter Milan?

I'd like to look at those statistics some time when I have time.


Can We at least agree hodge wasn't backed financially and the other two were heavily backed?

5live

Oranage2 wrote: »

I'd like to look at those statistics some time when I have time.


Can We at least agree hodge wasn't backed financially and the other two were heavily backed?

Comparing Dalglish and Rodgers to Hodgson is like comparing apples and oranages, tbf...

Oranage2

Oranage2 wrote: »

Yeah because Roy Keane knows the makings of a good manager?

Hodgson proved his worth in some of the biggest clubs around Europe, he also given no money to spend at pool and had similar if not better points to game ratio than both Kenny and Rodgers in their first seasons, and both those managers spent well in excess of 100 million!

Again, this is showing little knowledge of the subject in hand. Wrong on many fronts.

Grayditch

Oranage2 wrote: »

Hodgson proved his worth in some of the biggest clubs around Europe

You sound like Roy Hodgson.

mosstin

greendom wrote: »

tonne of abuse from twitter and the press ? He's a professional footballer, not to mention an England international, that's par for the course. All players playing at the top level of football can expect to receive such abuse and need to develop a tough skin to cope.

Dunno, this bit makes me uncomfortable. The way abuse has become normalised, how Twitter is seem as a legitimate forum for it and how vindictive and, sometimes, damaging it is. Giving a lad pelters from the stands on a Saturday afternoon I'm fine with but keyboard warriors with limited intelligence and unlimited broadband abusing a player and that player's family is not something that should ever be considered acceptable.
/rant

SlickRic

Oranage2 wrote: »

Hodgson proved his worth in some of the biggest clubs around Europe

5starpool

Hodgson was like a giant bestriding the peak of European leagues like Sweden and Finland.

gafferino

mosstin wrote: »

Dunno, this bit makes me uncomfortable. The way abuse has become normalised, how Twitter is seem as a legitimate forum for it and how vindictive and, sometimes, damaging it is. Giving a lad pelters from the stands on a Saturday afternoon I'm fine with but keyboard warriors with limited intelligence and unlimited broadband abusing a player and that player's family is not something that should ever be considered acceptable.
/rant

I'm not comfortable with it, and the same for some of the stuff that comes from the stands. Just because they make a lot of money and are public figures doesn't mean this is acceptable behaviour from one person to another IMO.

But it is part of it now and will remain so. Players now have to learn to deal with this nonsense.

Talisman

Oranage2 wrote: »

Hodgson proved his worth in some of the biggest clubs around Europe, he also given no money to spend at pool and had similar if not better points to game ratio than both Kenny and Rodgers in their first seasons, and both those managers spent well in excess of 100 million!

I think it was Abraham Lincoln who said "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Hodgson fed Sterling to the press because it deflected attention from the England performance, that's the only reason anybody is talking about him.

Hangballlouie

Ah lads, you're better than this.