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Ship from Sierra Leone docked in Dublin last week, 26 crew cleared.

  • 12-10-2014 09:32PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭


    What are we to make of this? I am aware that our leaders remind us that there are no direct flights from the west african nations involved and Ireland but what about sea transport? Apparently these sailors were tested and cleared but as it takes up to 3 weeks for symtoms to manifest was it not a really careless act to let them off their ship and into Dublin?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Totally.


    AAACHOOOO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    26 people, ummm sounds like a football squad. Are you sure it wasn't the Gibraltar national team as they played like they all had Ebola the other night?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    youtube! wrote: »
    I am aware that our leaders remind us that there are no direct flights from the west african nations

    Leaders? Did Mrs Merkel actually confirm this to you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭stimpson


    youtube! wrote: »
    What are we to make of this? I am aware that our leaders remind us that there are no direct flights from the west african nations involved and Ireland but what about sea transport? Apparently these sailors were tested and cleared but as it takes up to 3 weeks for symtoms to manifest was it not a really careless act to let them off their ship and into Dublin?

    I assume it takes a few weeks to sail from Africa.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Apparently SARS was much more to worry about, but I'm just more at odds as to why our country literally made all kinds of precautions with foot and mouth (something that couldn't technically be passed to humans) in the early 2000 s.

    In short, I dont think we're taking Ebola seriously enough.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    Apparently SARS was much more to worry about, but I'm just more at odds as to why our country literally made all kinds of precautions with foot and mouth (something that couldn't technically be passed to humans) in the early 2000 s.

    In short, I dont think we're taking Ebola seriously enough.

    If the spelled it "iBola" and focussed on the "you die if you get it" bit, maybe people would take an interest. They're marketing it very badly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Apparently SARS was much more to worry about, but I'm just more at odds as to why our country literally made all kinds of precautions with foot and mouth (something that couldn't technically be passed to humans) in the early 2000 s.

    In short, I dont think we're taking Ebola seriously enough.
    The Foot and Mouth precautions had nothing to do with protecting humans. It was to protect the economy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭youtube!


    stimpson wrote: »
    I assume it takes a few weeks to sail from Africa.


    That's actually a very good point, you have put my mind at ease good Sir :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,926 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Apparently SARS was much more to worry about, but I'm just more at odds as to why our country literally made all kinds of precautions with foot and mouth (something that couldn't technically be passed to humans) in the early 2000 s.
    Actually, humans can get foot an mouth, although it is much less serious for us than quadrupeds. And as said, it was about animal health and economics, not human health as such.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 479 ✭✭In Lonesome Dove


    I knew it would be only a matter of time before the government would invite people in from Sierra Leone. This is what I wrote the night before last in the budget 2015.
    Yep, the government would probably welcome Ebola to come into Ireland and spread, to cut the budget deficit. Have a load of people dying of the disease to reduce the numbers on social welfare and have some new job positions open up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    In short, I dont think we're taking Ebola seriously enough.

    :confused:
    it's killed only 4000 people, mostly from countries that barely function. How much has the flu killed this year alone?

    It's blown out of all proportion IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Victor wrote: »
    Actually, humans can get foot an mouth, although it is much less serious for us than quadrupeds. And as said, it was about animal health and economics, not human health as such.

    Is that because we only have 2 feet or what?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    I dont think the people on that ship were examined/tested and really they should have been. all it takes is for us to let our guard down once. so lets not do that. proactive over reactive. every single time.

    There is an onus on the Irish authorities to do everything in their power to prevent what is rapidly becominga global crisis coming here. Yet the crew members of a ship which left Freetown, Sierra Leone’s capital, a week ago, disembarked and mingled freely with the public, and God knows what else, when they arrived in Dublin without being tested medically. That’s alarming.
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/ourview/pebola-epidemic--a-global-crisisp-291045.html?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,926 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    WakeUp wrote: »
    I dont think the people on that ship were examined/tested and really they should have been. all it takes is for us to let our guard down once. so lets not do that. proactive over reactive. every single time.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/ourview/pebola-epidemic--a-global-crisisp-291045.html
    There is an onus on the Irish authorities to do everything in their power to prevent what is rapidly becominga global crisis coming here. Yet the crew members of a ship which left Freetown, Sierra Leone’s capital, a week ago, disembarked and mingled freely with the public, and God knows what else, when they arrived in Dublin without being tested medically. That’s alarming.
    Are they suggesting sheep bothering or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,808 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    stimpson wrote: »
    I assume it takes a few weeks to sail from Africa.
    Six days from Sierra Leone, according to reports.

    The officers and crew are probably fine. The stowaways, otoh... :eek:

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    Victor wrote: »
    Are they suggesting sheep bothering or something?

    banging hookers maybe. I honestly dont know its a bit of an open statement isnt it. maybe that or the sheep:D what do lads that have been too sea for a while get up to when they make land. no pun intended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,808 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Victor wrote: »
    Are they suggesting sheep bothering or something?
    Bono's sheep are not in the Green at present - they are safe and secure offshore. Did anyone read/hear that his chickens, otoh, are coming home to roost / poop / be cooked? Bird flew? swidt :)

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    :confused:
    it's killed only 4000 people, mostly from countries that barely function. How much has the flu killed this year alone?

    It's blown out of all proportion IMO

    Ebola was only recognised as a epidemic in March of this year. There are another 3 months to go before the end of the year.

    The disease has spread much faster than any other prior Ebola outbreak.

    The fact that the disease is affecting record numbers of people in countries with poor infrastructure is even more worrying than if the epidemic had started say for example somewhere in the developed world as effectively the outbreaks have allowed a critical mass of infection to spread to other areas outside that region.

    The point made about 'the flu' killing people is absolutely moot. Ebola does not negate the flu or any other disease. The flu is not going to disappear just because of the Ebola epidemic.

    The exponential rise of the infection rate over previous Ebola epidemics does give significant cause for concern.

    The high rate of apparent infection of medical staff also gives cause for concern.

    As a starting point I would recommend an account of another plague that had devastating consequences and like Ebola started with a small number of cases and went on to kill an estimated 30–60% of Europe's total population. That epidemic was called the Black Death and it too arrived via ship.

    Not saying that Ebola is the same just that there needs to be some appreciation of the significant potential of such a deadly pathogen and how it can spread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,808 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Did someone say 'tactical nuke' yet?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,926 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Esel wrote: »
    Did someone say 'tactical nuke' yet?
    It would be much cheaper and more effective to send medical staff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Esel wrote: »
    Did someone say 'tactical nuke' yet?
    I think that's a bit much. After all Dublin is the capital city.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    biko wrote: »
    I think that's a bit much. After all Dublin is the capital city.

    The Northside he meant. Duh.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    If there is an Irish outbreak then we are fcuked.

    Our HSA cannot even run an A+E properly. The Gov are living like those in the pre french revolution era, they have no idea what is happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,062 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Would you say it's time to crack each others heads open and feast on the goo inside?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Would you say it's time to crack each others heads open and feast on the goo inside?

    Yes I would Kent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    youtube! wrote: »
    Apparently these sailors were tested and cleared

    Sharon Curley is delighted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    youtube! wrote: »
    What are we to make of this? I am aware that our leaders remind us that there are no direct flights from the west african nations involved and Ireland but what about sea transport? Apparently these sailors were tested and cleared but as it takes up to 3 weeks for symtoms to manifest was it not a really careless act to let them off their ship and into Dublin?

    No. If they've been tested and cleared, what else would you suggest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,924 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    stimpson wrote: »
    I assume it takes a few weeks to sail from Africa.

    The amount of people that thanked this is worrying. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭youtube!


    stimpson wrote: »
    I assume it takes a few weeks to sail from Africa.


    Ah no after initially thanking you for putting my mind at ease it now transpires that it takes just ONE WEEK , those sailors were cleared to mingle with the Irish public and they did so for 2 days, now considering symptoms don't show up for up to 3 weeks again I ask who the fcuk gave clearance to people who may well have come into contact in freetown only ONE WEEK previously?? I hope we have dodged the bullet but we cannot let this happen again!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭youtube!


    No. If they've been tested and cleared, what else would you suggest?



    How could they possibly have been properly cleared when it takes 3 weeks and they sailed one week previously?? What genius gave the clearance?


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