Ebola virus outbreak

ProfessorPlum · 12-10-2014 10:21AM

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Gosh! How are these institutions failing so badly to protect their staff?

I'm 'hoping' that is was amount the workers that saw him on his first presentation to the hospital. At least then there's a chance there was only 1 mistake made and not multiple ones.

ProfessorPlum · 12-10-2014 10:22AM

snubbleste wrote: »

Anyone know how many health workers tested positive for Ebola in Liberia in the past week`

I'm sure the WHO has some figures. Why are you confused?

snubbleste · 12-10-2014 10:28AM

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

I'm sure the WHO has some figures. Why are you confused?

Because health workers in Liberia do not make the news versus one in Texas

Autonomous Cowherd · 12-10-2014 10:29AM

snubbleste wrote: »

Anyone know how many health workers tested positive for Ebola in Liberia in the past week`

That is not the point. We know as intelligent humans that many many are infected, unfortunately. But the 'lie' we are sold is that this is as a result of poverty, ignorance, poor and unsanitary conditions. Etc. We are repeatedly being told that Ebola will be contained in the ''west'' because we are prepared, vigilant, equipped, alert, and educated.

ProfessorPlum · 12-10-2014 10:31AM

snubbleste wrote: »

Because health workers in Liberia do not make the news versus one in Texas

I have no idea why you find that confusing. There wouldn't be the newspaper pages to report each individual case. I find it confusing that you can't see why it's been reported. Feigned outrage to the west's disregard of the crisis in Africa maybe?

CelticRambler · 12-10-2014 10:33AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Ebola was first discovered in 1976. Between then and 2013 there were 1716 cases of ebola. There have been over 8000 confirmed cases this year, with the actual number thought to be higher. That's why it's a crisis ...

There were an estimated 627 000 malaria deaths worldwide in 2012 (uncertainty interval, 473 000–789 000).
Source: WHO

Ebola's got a long way to go before it's even close to being a real crisis. Jake1's question about mosquitoes is relevant - because if you're being bitten by mosquitoes, you've got worse things to worry about than Ebola.

snubbleste · 12-10-2014 10:36AM

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

I have no idea why you find that confusing. There wouldn't be the newspaper pages to report each individual case. I find it confusing that you can't see why it's been reported. Feigned outrage to the west's disregard of the crisis in Africa maybe?

Or because a western human is worth more than an african human?
http://mic.com/articles/100618/one-powerful-illustration-shows-exactly-what-s-wrong-with-media-coverage-of-ebola

Vinnie L · 12-10-2014 10:37AM

There's worse things that can happen you than Ebola, at least it is relatively quick.
So feck Ebola.

Meglamonia · 12-10-2014 10:39AM

Vinnie L wrote: »

There's worse things that can happen you than Ebola, at least it is relatively quick.
So feck Ebola.

No,it's a fairly slow and agonising death.

TheBeardedLady · 12-10-2014 10:57AM

FullblownRose wrote: »

I like the writer's style! The situation seems to be very shoddily handled, though

Can you actually get your head around just how badly it was handled? The media here are absolute scum of the earth as well.

LuckyLloyd · 12-10-2014 11:13AM

'But malaria kills X every year and the flu kills Y. Ebola has only killed a few thousand.'

Shut up, shut up, shut up!!

Malaria and the flu do kill huge numbers and it is regrettable. However, they do not knock off young and healthy people, the general mortality rate is low and medical treatments can be applied that significantly improve outcomes. Malaria is an unfortunate crises of the poverty of the developed world.

Ebola has a mortality rate presently of 50% and medical intervention is limited in scope and ineffective in terms of improving outcomes. It is also growing expotentially over an extended period for the first time.

I'm not saying it's time to crack each other's skulls open nor am I saying that third world lives are any less valuable than our own. But trite dismissals on the basis of other public health issues being in existence are irritating.

LuckyLloyd · 12-10-2014 11:16AM

Vinnie L wrote: »

There's worse things that can happen you than Ebola, at least it is relatively quick.
So feck Ebola.

I'd reckon ~10 days of worsening severe fever / vomiting / diarrhoea allied to a ~48 hour final phase of bleeding from every orifice is a pretty horrendous way to go, but that's just me.

Akrasia · 12-10-2014 11:37AM

CelticRambler wrote: »

There were an estimated 627 000 malaria deaths worldwide in 2012 (uncertainty interval, 473 000–789 000).
Source: WHO

Ebola's got a long way to go before it's even close to being a real crisis. Jake1's question about mosquitoes is relevant - because if you're being bitten by mosquitoes, you've got worse things to worry about than Ebola.

You dont seem to grasp the implications of exponential growth

Akrasia · 12-10-2014 11:37AM

CelticRambler wrote: »

There were an estimated 627 000 malaria deaths worldwide in 2012 (uncertainty interval, 473 000–789 000).
Source: WHO

Ebola's got a long way to go before it's even close to being a real crisis. Jake1's question about mosquitoes is relevant - because if you're being bitten by mosquitoes, you've got worse things to worry about than Ebola.

You dont seem to grasp the implications of exponential growth

Streetwalker · 12-10-2014 11:42AM

Ebola if it reaches the Irish health system will destroy us. We are unable to handle what we have what with people on chairs and trolleys in hospital corridors nationwide.

nyarlothothep · 12-10-2014 11:52AM

I'd like to think the way Spain is handling this will be a warning to us although whether politicians/medical admin take note is another matter. Imo the whole weight of the EU should be bearing down on the Spanish government to get its act together, that or face intervention!

TheBeardedLady · 12-10-2014 12:18PM

Imo the whole weight of the EU should be bearing down on the Spanish government to get its act together, that or face intervention!

You're absolutely right.

ProfessorPlum · 12-10-2014 12:31PM

CelticRambler wrote: »

There were an estimated 627 000 malaria deaths worldwide in 2012 (uncertainty interval, 473 000–789 000).
Source: WHO

Ebola's got a long way to go before it's even close to being a real crisis. Jake1's question about mosquitoes is relevant - because if you're being bitten by mosquitoes, you've got worse things to worry about than Ebola.

The point that so many seemingly go out of their way to miss, is that the situation with malaria and others diseases that are responsible for huge mortality in developing countries is relatively stable. Ebola on the other hand is an emerging global health crisis. Therefore we all have every right to be concerned.

snubbleste wrote: »

Or because a western human is worth more than an african human?
http://mic.com/articles/100618/one-powerful-illustration-shows-exactly-what-s-wrong-with-media-coverage-of-ebola

"Western media in 'reporting on issues affecting the west' shock"

deseil · 12-10-2014 12:41PM

Another confirmed case in Texas. A health care worker.
They really need to up the game with training medical staff, it's a disgrace.

This thing is obviously not as hard yo catch as were being lead to believe.

My name is URL · 12-10-2014 12:45PM

deseil wrote: »

Another confirmed case in Texas. A health care worker.
They really need to up the game with training medical staff, it's a disgrace.

This thing is obviously not as hard yo catch as were being lead to believe.

What makes you say that? The first case in Texas was originally treated for days without anyone knowing the guy had ebola. No proper PPE or containment procedures were in use until a few days after he had presented. It's not surprising that someone else has become ill as a result.

12-10-2014 12:58PM

at the Press Conference in Dallas they said affected worker was this was a 'low risk' person who used full protective gear .

youtube! · 12-10-2014 12:59PM

Jake1 wrote: »

at the Press Conference in Dallas they said affected worker was this was a 'low risk' person who used full protective gear .

Really? Well then that is very scary if true.

12-10-2014 01:06PM

youtube! wrote: »

Really? Well then that is very scary if true.

Confirmed this new health care worker case was following complete CDC procedures

P_1 · 12-10-2014 01:10PM

I think the most serious issue with Ebola is that it appears that somebody who's infected by it can spread the disease before the symptoms actually present themselves. Its all well and good suggesting that you have the full NBC gear on around a patient who's presenting the symptoms but how can you tell someone who has it but is yet to display the symptoms apart from anybody else?

Canis Lupus · 12-10-2014 01:11PM

Jake1 wrote: »

Confirmed this new health care worker case was following complete CDC procedures

Confirmed by who? I don't see any mention of it in the mainstream although I did speed read. The BBC just state: It is not clear whether the health worker who tested positive came into contact with Mr Duncan when he first showed possible symptoms or when he was re-admitted to hospital.

EDit: Ah I see it was mentioned in the press conference.

12-10-2014 01:14PM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Confirmed by who? I don't see any mention of it in the mainstream although I did speed read. The BBC just state: It is not clear whether the health worker who tested positive came into contact with Mr Duncan when he first showed possible symptoms or when he was re-admitted to hospital.

EDit: Ah I see it was mentioned in the press conference.

Pres Conference over now, or Id share the link

Should be on the news later.

bodhrandude · 12-10-2014 01:21PM

News report concerning health worker infected with Ebola in Dallas.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/texas-health-care-worker-tests-positive-ebola-n223946

youtube! · 12-10-2014 01:35PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

News report concerning health worker infected with Ebola in Dallas.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/texas-health-care-worker-tests-positive-ebola-n223946

wont play for me!!

Vinnie L · 12-10-2014 01:44PM

Meglamonia wrote: »

No,it's a fairly slow and agonising death.

So are very many fatal conditions

bodhrandude · 12-10-2014 01:47PM

youtube! wrote: »

wont play for me!!

Just give it time to load, it might be a minute or two.

Ebola virus outbreak

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