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Playstation Plus Discussion Thread - FAQ in first post

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  • #6812
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Would you still consider it in its infancy after 4.5 years though? I'll state that I'm happy with the service and usually there's a couple of games to dick around with on the two platforms I have each month. I know sometimes it can be OTT but the thing is I really don't see the problem with people criticizing a service if they think it could be improved. Let's be honest, corporations like Sony or xBox don't respond to praise, the respond to criticism - if enough people are critical of a service and it generates enough bad publicity, they are more likely to react.

    On the PS4 it is in its infancy and that will only hold true for another year at the extreme most.


  • #6813
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,185 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Can't get blood from a stone, the game don't exist yet or have not been on the market long enough. What are some people expecting, seriously like. THe PS3 had 5 years of games to pick from when Plus launched. PS4 had day one.


  • #6814
    jaffusmax
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭jaffusmax


    Captain Chaos wrote: »
    Can't get blood from a stone, the game don't exist yet or have not been on the market long enough. What are some people expecting, seriously like. THe PS3 had 5 years of games to pick from when Plus launched. PS4 had day one.

    I would go further to say we were spoiled by sony with so many great AAA games that now we expect it!


  • #6815
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    jaffusmax wrote: »
    I would go further to say we were spoiled by sony with so many great AAA games that now we expect it!

    Or you could say Sony created an expectation of a certain level of service that has lead to disappointment at where the service is now. I can understand a certain amount of disappointment, especially for the PS3 owners, when you're going from getting Bioshock Infinite and Metro Last Light in one month, both games less than a year old at the time, to getting a five year old Batman game and a compilation of 2 20 year old arcade games in the space of 9 months.


  • #6816
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Or you could say Sony created an expectation of a certain level of service that has lead to disappointment at where the service is now. I can understand a certain amount of disappointment, especially for the PS3 owners, when you're going from getting Bioshock Infinite and Metro Last Light in one month, both games less than a year old at the time, to getting a five year old Batman game and a compilation of 2 20 year old arcade games in the space of 9 months.

    Yes but the Vita and PS3 are around alot longer than the PS4 so its PS4 users that need to be realistic in their views of the service.


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  • #6817
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    If they gave Need For Speed away as the first major title, I'd be very impressed!


  • #6818
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    jonny24ie wrote: »
    Yes but the Vita and PS3 are around alot longer than the PS4 so its PS4 users that need to be realistic in their views of the service.

    I can understand the need for tempered expectations in terms of the PS4 but I'm sympathetic to a certain degree to people's frustrations with the service - wasn't Plus on the PS4 initially meant to launch with Drive Club? I think that raised a lot of people's expectations of what the service was going to be like - something Sony could obviously never have realistically fulfilled. I also think Drive Club is actually going to be the template for how AAA games are presented which I think will be a disappointment for people who are used to the previous service from the Vita or the PS3.

    That said, looking at the Games with Gold service for the xBox One, PS Plus is looking a bit better in terms of the amount of games it gets every month thanks to the cross buy games between the Vita and the PS4 given away each month.

    Tbf, the Vita catalogue has pretty much been completely plundered for Plus at this stage so it's in the same situation as the PS4 in terms of being reliant on indies - not really a bad thing as it really is the perfect vehicle for a lot of those games. Vita suffered a bit from bad ports so the indies are a better fit imo.


  • #6819
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    I can understand the need for tempered expectations in terms of the PS4 but I'm sympathetic to a certain degree to people's frustrations with the service - wasn't Plus on the PS4 initially meant to launch with Drive Club? I think that raised a lot of people's expectations of what the service was going to be like - something Sony could obviously never have realistically fulfilled. I also think Drive Club is actually going to be the template for how AAA games are presented which I think will be a disappointment for people who are used to the previous service from the Vita or the PS3.

    That said, looking at the Games with Gold service for the xBox One, PS Plus is looking a bit better in terms of the amount of games it gets every month thanks to the cross buy games between the Vita and the PS4 given away each month.

    Tbf, the Vita catalogue has pretty much been completely plundered for Plus at this stage so it's in the same situation as the PS4 in terms of being reliant on indies - not really a bad thing as it really is the perfect vehicle for a lot of those games. Vita suffered a bit from bad ports so the indies are a better fit imo.

    Yes, I remember looking at the back of the PS4 box when I got the console at launch and it had Drive Club details as been free etc. I must have a look when i get home later.


  • #6820
    Xenji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,507 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    If you take into account Sonys metacritic rule, games that are older than 6 months and the possibility of no more EA games on Plus you are only left with AC: Black Flag, Cod Ghosts, Injustice, Killzone SF, Lego Marvel Heroes, NBA 2414, Tomb Raider, MGS GZ and Infamous SS that could be released at this point.


  • #6821
    tok9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,161 ✭✭✭tok9


    This Sony metacritic rule isn't actually there. Pretty sure myself and Otacon discussed this before.


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  • #6822
    Xenji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,507 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    tok9 wrote: »
    This Sony metacritic rule isn't actually there. Pretty sure myself and Otacon discussed this before.

    I think they are a bit lenient at times seeing that Catherine and Hitman Absolution have both been under the 70% threshold.

    If they want to be lenient you could add Knack, Thief and Murdered Soul Suspect as well.


  • #6823
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    tok9 wrote: »
    This Sony metacritic rule isn't actually there. Pretty sure myself and Otacon discussed this before.

    Yeah, it was on their website before and about 2 months ago Otacon i think had a look and said that it was no longer specified.


  • #6824
    tok9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,161 ✭✭✭tok9


    Xenji wrote: »
    I think they are a bit lenient at times seeing that Catherine and Hitman Absolution have both been under the 70% threshold.

    If they want to be lenient you could add Knack, Thief and Murdered Soul Suspect as well.

    Hold on... Catherine got under 70%! I absolutely loved that game.


  • #6825
    Xenji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,507 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    tok9 wrote: »
    Hold on... Catherine got under 70%! I absolutely loved that game.

    It is higher now, but at the time it got the Plus release it was around 68%, it is a great game and the usual Katsura Hashino mind****.


  • #6826
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Otacons post on the metacritic:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91928662&postcount=6437

    And murdered sould suspect should have been slightly above the 70% mark :O


  • #6827
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    DarkJager wrote: »
    I have a good idea for Sony, why don't they drop the requirement to have a Ps Plus subscription to play online? That way, only people who actually have an interest in playing these **** hipster games would have to purchase a sub. They would never do that though because Plus subscriptions would drop over 90% immediately.

    So, not a good idea then?


  • #6828
    Xenji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,507 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    jonny24ie wrote: »
    Otacons post on the metacritic:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91928662&postcount=6437

    And murdered sould suspect should have been slightly above the 70% mark :O

    Well then we have AC: Black Flag, Cod Ghosts, Injustice, Killzone SF, Lego Marvel Heroes, NBA 2414, Tomb Raider, MGS GZ, Infamous SS, Knack, Murdered SS and Thief.

    Still no confirmation about how EA Access will affect future EA games on Plus, so leaving them out for the meantime.


  • #6829
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Don't want to ignite a row or anything, but what's the story with Drive Club? Is it just the demo that's available on PS Plus? I thought it was the full game that we were gonna get?


  • #6830
    spider_pig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭spider_pig


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Don't want to ignite a row or anything, but what's the story with Drive Club? Is it just the demo that's available on PS Plus? I thought it was the full game that we were gonna get?


    Yes it's just a demo that you can upgrade for €40, it's not available yet I couldn't find it today when I looked


  • #6831
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Don't want to ignite a row or anything, but what's the story with Drive Club? Is it just the demo that's available on PS Plus? I thought it was the full game that we were gonna get?

    It's like a restricted version of the full game:
    DriveClub will launch in two flavors: a PS Plus version, which will be free to download to all PS Plus members, and the regular retail version. The free PS Plus version includes a limited selection of cars, tracks, and features, while the regular version has everything included. PS Plus members will be able to upgrade to the full game for about half the price of the retail version (depending on territory).

    http://ps4daily.com/2014/10/everything-you-need-to-know-about-driveclub/


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  • #6832
    OkeyDoke12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭OkeyDoke12


    Is there any way I can send films that I have downloaded on my laptop to my ps4 wirelessly?


  • #6833
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭tigger123


    spider_pig wrote: »
    Yes it's just a demo that you can upgrade for €40, it's not available yet I couldn't find it today when I looked

    Cheers, just had a look there and it's still unavailable.


  • #6834
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭tigger123


    OkeyDoke12 wrote: »
    Is there any way I can send films that I have downloaded on my laptop to my ps4 wirelessly?

    PS4 can't even play movies from a hard drive as far as I know. It's summit the PS3 could do but the PS4 can't.


  • #6835
    Xenji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,507 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Cheers, just had a look there and it's still unavailable.

    It will not be available till they sort their servers out, they have been rolling out incremental server updates throughout the day, but they have to get the servers stable before you will see the demo.


  • #6836
    OkeyDoke12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭OkeyDoke12


    tigger123 wrote: »
    PS4 can't even play movies from a hard drive as far as I know. It's summit the PS3 could do but the PS4 can't.

    Will it ever be possible?


  • #6837
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭tigger123


    OkeyDoke12 wrote: »
    Will it ever be possible?

    As far as I know the PS3 couldn't play movies (from a hard drive) when it was first released, and the ability to do so was included as a patch/update after it's release. So yeah, it's possible and probable.

    Why they didn't include it in the first place I'll never know.


  • #6838
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,040 ✭✭✭✭lertsnim


    Grayditch wrote: »
    If they gave Need For Speed away as the first major title, I'd be very impressed!

    I'd be delighted. I held off buying it.


  • #6839
    OkeyDoke12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭OkeyDoke12


    How come theres no demo for DriveClub on the ps4 store?


  • #6840
    Xenji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,507 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    OkeyDoke12 wrote: »
    How come theres no demo for DriveClub on the ps4 store?

    It's been delayed indefinitely till Evolution sort out their server issues.


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  • #6841
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Xenji wrote: »
    It's been delayed indefinitely till Evolution sort out their server issues.

    the ps plus edition shows up for me on the irish store


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