Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

Zico · 10-10-2014 02:34PM

I saw this is MEN the other day;

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stats-focus-keane-all-time-premier-7897670

Rooney has picked up a lot more yellow cards than I would have thought. At this rate he'll probably be the first player to get 100 yellows.

Rooney has 81 yellow cards, 3 red cards in the Premier League and counting.

For comparison;

Mark Hughes: 70 yellow, 2 red
Roy Keane: 69 yellow, 7 red
Nicky Butt: 77 yellow 6 red
Phil Neville: 82 yellow 3 red
Paul Scholes: 97 yellow 4 red

..and most carded player in Premier League history?

Lee Bowyer: 99 yellow 5 red

bangkok · 10-10-2014 02:38PM

Zico wrote: »

I saw this is MEN the other day;

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stats-focus-keane-all-time-premier-7897670

Rooney has picked up a lot more yellow cards than I would have thought. At this rate he'll probably be the first player to get 100 yellows.

Rooney has 81 yellow cards, 3 red cards in the Premier League and counting.

For comparison;

Mark Hughes: 70 yellow, 2 red
Roy Keane: 69 yellow, 7 red
Nicky Butt: 77 yellow 6 red
Phil Neville: 82 yellow 3 red
Paul Scholes: 97 yellow 4 red

..and most carded player in Premier League history?

Lee Bowyer: 99 yellow 5 red

those stats don't tell a true story either, if mark hughes or roy keane were playing now they would have well over 100 yellow cards. game was a lot different back when they were playing, a lot harder to get booked

gracehopper · 10-10-2014 02:39PM

A true Red!

bangkok · 10-10-2014 02:40PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhskAyWlsRg

just thought I would share this as well.... a great tackle from king eric!! :eek:

Your Airbag · 10-10-2014 02:55PM

bangkok wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhskAyWlsRg

just thought I would share this as well.... a great tackle from king eric!! :eek:

A two footed drop kick on the opposition player and when he is surrounded by protesting players he slaps one of them causing his head to snap back and basically headbutt one of Erics team mates.

So he he basically assaulted two opposition players and inadvertently one of his own team mates.

Yep, that was King Eric alright.

keane2097 · 10-10-2014 02:58PM

bangkok wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhskAyWlsRg

just thought I would share this as well.... a great tackle from king eric!! :eek:

Pretty disgusting tbf

bangkok · 10-10-2014 03:16PM

keane2097 wrote: »

Pretty disgusting tbf

yes it was shocking, I still rate keane's challenge on haaland as the worst and most cowardly tackle in premier league history

keane2097 · 10-10-2014 03:17PM

bangkok wrote: »

yes it was shocking, I still rate keane's challenge on haaland as the worst and most cowardly tackle in premier league history

That Cantona one is way worse.

duffman13 · 10-10-2014 03:25PM

How have I never seen that before. Crazy tackle!

KH25 · 10-10-2014 03:33PM

The one thing about Keanes tackle on Haaland that I can respect us the fact that he admitted it was intentional.

I hate seeing players put in filthy tackles and then say 'oh I didn't mean that'. In a lot of cases it's obvious they knew what they were doing.

It's even worse when you see fans and pundits standing up for the player because 'he's not that type of player'. It doesn't matter! The fact that it happened is enough!

Nalz · 10-10-2014 03:40PM

Welbeck talk > Keane talk

KH25 · 10-10-2014 03:40PM

Trilla wrote: »

Welbeck talk > Keane talk

Nani talk > Welbeck talk.

Kirby · 10-10-2014 03:44PM

Cleverley talk > Nani talk......except if your Pro.F.

bangkok · 10-10-2014 03:44PM

KH25 wrote: »

The one thing about Keanes tackle on Haaland that I can respect us the fact that he admitted it was intentional.

I hate seeing players put in filthy tackles and then say 'oh I didn't mean that'. In a lot of cases it's obvious they knew what they were doing.

It's even worse when you see fans and pundits standing up for the player because 'he's not that type of player'. It doesn't matter! The fact that it happened is enough!

it was disgusting and there is no defending it. it was a cowards tackle and then he stood over him giving him abuse. It was disgraceful and deserves zero respect

gracehopper · 10-10-2014 03:45PM

I don't condone badly injuring someone on the pitch but I don't think keane's tackle was disgraceful at all. If someone stood over me like that when I was seriously injured I'd be counting the days to the next match against him. So would any competitive player. Everything is gone too pc, its 11 against 11 and you take no prisoners, Keane and lots of other players are warriors and they win cups and leagues for their teams. You take that bite and tension out of the game and it becomes quite boring to watch.

Football is was a physical game. People are human. Haaland got a belt and imo deserved it.

KH25 · 10-10-2014 03:47PM

bangkok wrote: »

it was disgusting and there is no defending it. it was a cowards tackle and then he stood over him giving him abuse. It was disgraceful and deserves zero respect

If you read my post again you'll see that I at no point defended him.

bangkok · 10-10-2014 03:48PM

gracehopper wrote: »

I don't condone badly injuring someone on the pitch but I don't think keane's tackle was disgraceful at all. If someone stood over me like that when I was seriously injured I'd be counting the days to the next match against him. So would any competitive player. Everything is gone too pc, its 11 against 11 and you take no prisoners, Keane and lots of other players are warriors and they win cups and leagues for their teams. You take that bite and tension out of the game and it becomes quite boring to watch.

Football is was a physical game. People are human. Haaland got a belt and imo deserved it.

but keane kicked haaland in the original game as well and injured himself!!

Kirby · 10-10-2014 03:50PM

bangkok wrote: »

it was disgusting and there is no defending it. it was a cowards tackle and then he stood over him giving him abuse. It was disgraceful and deserves zero respect

That's where you are going wrong. You cant compare it to other tackles because it wasn't a tackle.

It wasn't a tackle, it was revenge. Or assault if your prefer that terminology. He shouldn't have been banned, he should have been charged if we are being frank.

Frankly, I can see myself doing the same think put in Keane's position. The vast majority of people are petty and would react the same way in reality despite what some might claim on an internet forum.

gracehopper · 10-10-2014 03:51PM

bangkok wrote: »

but keane kicked haaland in the original game as well and injured himself!!

I thought he tackled him around the side and incurred the injury. I could be wrong.

anyway, keane kicked a lot of players.

To be fair i think dunphy was a little colourful with his version of it. Keane did approve it though. I suppose it was naive to write about it

KH25 · 10-10-2014 03:55PM

Kirby wrote: »

That's where you are going wrong. You cant compare it to other tackles because it wasn't a tackle.

It wasn't a tackle, it was revenge. Or assault if your prefer that terminology. He shouldn't have been banned, he should have been charged if we are being frank.

Frankly, I can see myself doing the same think put in Keane's position. The vast majority of people are petty and would react the same way in reality despite what some might claim on an internet forum.

I agree. I think a lot of people would do the same. That's not to say that it's right. It's not. But a lot of times you will see players put in filthy challenges and it's blatantly obvious that they aren't even trying to play football. Yet 99% of the time these players immediately say it was unintentional or an accident. No it wasn't!

gracehopper · 10-10-2014 04:18PM

Like you had Keane, Robson, Viera even dare i say it Gerard. These are all absolute animals! Yes they can be dirty and that is a by product of their attitude. When the chips are down and you need someone to stand up they are the players that will do it, they're the ones that united and Liverpool and arsenal fans remember and the reason the grounds are full every week.

what I laugh about is that its a disgrace in soccer. Yet in rugby you see Paul o Connell take a hit and then seconds later take the head off someone and Its: "Good man Paul"

I guess Keano is easy to dislike now because of all the book hype and he hasnt really behaved well since leaving united. Don't forget how many times he dragged our asses through a game. There would be no Barcelona 99 without him.

Zico · 10-10-2014 04:22PM

Kirby wrote: »

That's where you are going wrong. You cant compare it to other tackles because it wasn't a tackle.

It wasn't a tackle, it was revenge. Or assault if your prefer that terminology. He shouldn't have been banned, he should have been charged if we are being frank.

Frankly, I can see myself doing the same think put in Keane's position. The vast majority of people are petty and would react the same way in reality despite what some might claim on an internet forum.

He now says it wasn't revenge, so does that make it a tackle again?

Will I Amnt · 10-10-2014 04:23PM

There is very little Roy Keane could do to have himself removed from the hero status that I hold him in.

Billy86 · 10-10-2014 04:28PM

gracehopper wrote: »

Gerard... When the chips are down and you need someone to stand up they are the players that will do it

Hyuck, hyuck, hyuck.

In truth though I would definitely put Lampard ahead of Gerrard in that respect.

Liam McPoyle · 10-10-2014 04:32PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

There is very little Roy Keane could do to have himself removed from the hero status that I hold him in.

+100

Yes, he has done some scummy things and has thuggish leanings however he had such an unweilding desire to win, for him self and for his team, to be the best, to not accept mediocrity, that any wrong doing is infinitely outweighed by the good.

gracehopper · 10-10-2014 04:32PM

Billy86 wrote: »

Hyuck, hyuck, hyuck.

In truth though I would definitely put Lampard ahead of Gerrard in that respect.

yeh can't believe i said that actually. sorry for any nausea caused.

Billy86 · 10-10-2014 04:33PM

gracehopper wrote: »

yeh can't believe i said that actually. sorry for any nausea caused.

It was just the choice of words... "WE DON'T ****ING LET THIS SLIP!"

Michael D Not Higgins · 10-10-2014 05:04PM

One of the most memorable of Keane's leadership was a Champions League game against some Hungarian side when United were up 2 goals on aggregate and had gotten a penalty.

Forlan wanted to take it to get his first goal for United, having been under pressure to perform. Keane insisted van Nistelrooy take it since he was the designated penalty taker.

It takes balls to disregard the will of your players and demand consistency, even when you're running away with the game.

paulbok · 10-10-2014 05:08PM

Kirby wrote: »

Cleverley talk > Nani talk......except if your Pro.F.

Is this a new range of teabags?

adox · 10-10-2014 05:31PM

I always laugh at this Cantona one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=734qFO0OnJc

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