187kph and only gets fined.

porsche959 · 09-10-2014 11:23AM

porsche959 wrote: »

<<< Fakes outrage for five millisecond seconds. >>>>

Don't get me wrong, I am not defending driving at 187kph, nor am I defending the apparent undue leniency in the judge's decision.

But these 'outraged and incandescent with rage' threads don't actually accomplish anything. The broader issue here and in similar cases is really about failure to apply consistent sentencing and/or an apparent failure of whatever disciplinary code exists for judges.

dm09 · 09-10-2014 11:23AM

"Beauty" Queen... Maybe by Limerick standards....

caustic 1 · 09-10-2014 11:24AM

porsche959 wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, I am not defending driving at 187kph, nor am I defending the apparent undue leniency in the judge's decision.

But these 'outraged and incandescent with rage' threads don't actually accomplish anything. The broader issue here and in similar cases is really about failure to apply consistent sentencing and/or an apparent failure of whatever disciplinary code exists for judges.

You think so?

:rolleyes:

Tefral · 09-10-2014 11:26AM

An absolute joke, only in the paper the previous week there was a write up about a judge convicting people for dangerous driving for speeds less than this in a motorway around limerick.

Billy Jones of Ballinagoul was convicted of careless driving arising from driving at 172kmp in a 120kph zone. The incident took place at 11.25am last March 3 at Cloghacloka, Patrickswell.

“It is a crazy speed. I don’t know how you could get up that far,” Judge Larkin said

William McCarthy, Shady Nook, Carribane, Carrigtwohill was fined €750, having been clocked driving at 162kph in a 120kph zone on March 3.
Arturs Stefenbergs, 14 Dun na Rí, Ennis was conivted of careless driving after speeds of 164kph in a 120kph zone on June 19 and fined €750.
Raymond Ryan, Ballinakill West, Newtown, Charleville was also convicted of careless driving, having been clocked at a speed of 154kph in a 120kph zone last February 4 and fined €650. The judge refused an application by his solicitor John Lynch to reduce the charge.
Conor McCormack, 47 O’Connell Street Limerick was fined €650 on a speeding charge of driving at 140kph in a 120kph zone last January 22. He was fined a further €300 for having no acertificate of road worthiness.
Krzystof Kudlacik, 124 Glenside, Annacotty was convicted of careless driving while speeding at 169kph in a 120kph zone at Cloghacloka last April 3. He was fined €750.
A Cork driver – Patrick Beechinor, Carhoogariff, Clonakily – was speeding at 161kph in a 120kph zone and was fined €750 when convicted of careless driving last April 6.
Another Cork driver, George Alastair Durant, of Bannon House, Lee Rd, Carrigbrohane was similarly convicted of careless driving last March 15 when doing 160kph in a 120kph zone.
“It is very high,” Judge Larkin noted to Mr Durant’s solicitor, Michael O’Donnell, when he pleaded for his client. and she imposed a €650 fined.
A Newport man responding to a sudden death in the family was clocked at a speed of 159kph in a 120kph zone at Ballybrouge South, Patrickswell last March 23. John Crofton, 20 Mulcaire Manor, Newport was fined €500 on conviction of careless driving.

None of the above were "beauty queens"

Greenmachine · 09-10-2014 11:26AM

Summer wind wrote: »

I really feel for any big hairy fella that would give that response in this judges courtroom:)

Imagine them being told something like "no need to be so cute, stop acting like you have a brass neck ...could have happen... ashamed...moron...expletive.. 2 year ban."

porsche959 · 09-10-2014 11:28AM

caustic 1 wrote: »

You think so?

:rolleyes:

I don't understand your point?

renegademaster · 09-10-2014 11:31AM

bear1 wrote: »

This story was doing the rounds on the Motors section last night and today I see it has made the Indo:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/187kph-beauty-queen-escapes-drive-ban-30650507.html

The fact that she said she "didn't know" at what speed she was travelling would have been enough for me to ban her.
Absolutely shameful that she got praised for her honesty, fined 500e and from what I've reading feck all points on the licence.
I give up at this stage how the justice system works in this country.
I'd say the poor bastards that were banned last week for similar actions must be fairly pi33ed off at the ruling.

sure what's wrong with putting lives at risk to keep an arthodontic appointment that you've probably already missed?

everlast75 · 09-10-2014 11:32AM

whoopsadaisydoodles wrote: »

There are people getting away with fines for speeding on a very regular basis but because she's a pretty beauty queen she has to deal with the extra bollox of a rag like the indo running a story on it.

This isn't news.

Disagree - i think the crazy speed and the stupid excuse make the story

Ps - completely agree with you on calling the indo a rag

VinLieger · 09-10-2014 11:35AM

The only thing that refreshed the judge were her perky tits and tight ass

kneemos · 09-10-2014 11:35AM

cronin_j wrote: »

An absolute joke, only in the paper the previous week there was a write up about a judge convicting people for dangerous driving for speeds less than this in a motorway around limerick.
Billy Jones of Ballinagoul was convicted of careless driving arising from driving at 172kmp in a 120kph zone. The incident took place at 11.25am last March 3 at Cloghacloka, Patrickswell.

William McCarthy, Shady Nook, Carribane, Carrigtwohill was fined €750, having been clocked driving at 162kph in a 120kph zone on March 3.

Arturs Stefenbergs, 14 Dun na Rí, Ennis was conivted of careless driving after speeds of 164kph in a 120kph zone on June 19 and fined €750.

Raymond Ryan, Ballinakill West, Newtown, Charleville was also convicted of careless driving, having been clocked at a speed of 154kph in a 120kph zone last February 4 and fined €650. The judge refused an application by his solicitor John Lynch to reduce the charge.

Conor McCormack, 47 O’Connell Street Limerick was fined €650 on a speeding charge of driving at 140kph in a 120kph zone last January 22. He was fined a further €300 for having no acertificate of road worthiness.

Krzystof Kudlacik, 124 Glenside, Annacotty was convicted of careless driving while speeding at 169kph in a 120kph zone at Cloghacloka last April 3. He was fined €750.

A Cork driver – Patrick Beechinor, Carhoogariff, Clonakily – was speeding at 161kph in a 120kph zone and was fined €750 when convicted of careless driving last April 6.

Another Cork driver, George Alastair Durant, of Bannon House, Lee Rd, Carrigbrohane was similarly convicted of careless driving last March 15 when doing 160kph in a 120kph zone.

“It is very high,” Judge Larkin noted to Mr Durant’s solicitor, Michael O’Donnell, when he pleaded for his client. and she imposed a €650 fined.

A Newport man responding to a sudden death in the family was clocked at a speed of 159kph in a 120kph zone at Ballybrouge South, Patrickswell last March 23. John Crofton, 20 Mulcaire Manor, Newport was fined €500 on conviction of careless driving.

T
None of the above were "beauty queens"

So looks like a fine is a pretty standard result.

caustic 1 · 09-10-2014 11:36AM

porsche959 wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, I am not defending driving at 187kph, nor am I defending the apparent undue leniency in the judge's decision.

But these 'outraged and incandescent with rage' threads don't actually accomplish anything. The broader issue here and in similar cases is really about failure to apply consistent sentencing and/or an apparent failure of whatever disciplinary code exists for judges.

I don't think it's a outraged incandescent with rage thread. I think it's a joke, laughable that it can happen. I happen to think that no thread on here accomplishes anything except to vent, laugh, sometimes comfort and talk. Failure to apply consistent sentencing is nothing new. To me you come across more outraged and incandescent than anyone. Perhaps just the way I read it.

Tefral · 09-10-2014 11:37AM

kneemos wrote: »

So looks like a fine is a pretty standard result.

But a conviction of careless driving also, which carries a 5 point penalty!

Paulownia · 09-10-2014 11:39AM

And she will have lovelier teeth too after a visit to the orthodontist. I'd say she has learned a lesson and other people will learn from the publicity not to speed either.

kneemos · 09-10-2014 11:42AM

Everybody has speeded at some point,don't get the outrage?

Micky Dolenz · 09-10-2014 11:43AM

cronin_j wrote: »

But a conviction of careless driving also, which carries a 5 point penalty!

She will get PP for being convicted of speeding though?

Boskowski · 09-10-2014 11:43AM

Back home 'sorry officer I didn't realize' or 'I didn't know what speed I was going at' is deemed the worst possible answer.
Because it's translates into not only am I doing a bad thing, but on top of it I'm obviously not even in control of what I'm doing. It's the opposite if mitigating.

Mars Bar · 09-10-2014 11:43AM

In America, your car is impounded if you are caught doing over a 25mph. The fines are huge also. That speed should be one thousand euro at least.

bear1 · 09-10-2014 11:47AM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Link please! That sounds hilarious!

Nobody called Rusty can get away with that.

Sorry Rusty.

Here's the link.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/187kph-beauty-queen-escapes-drive-ban-30650507.html

Same judge and all.

bear1 · 09-10-2014 11:47AM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

She will get PP for being convicted of speeding though?

Apparently no points were given. Just the fine.

kneemos · 09-10-2014 11:47AM

Mars Bar wrote: »

In America, your car is impounded if you are caught doing over a 25mph. The fines are huge also. That speed should be one thousand euro at least.

That's because traffic fines directly fund the police force.

VinLieger · 09-10-2014 11:47AM

kneemos wrote: »

Everybody has speeded at some point,don't get the outrage?

Theres speeding by doing 10-20kph over the limit that MAYBE you could get away with saying you didn't know that's how fast you were going, but speeding and doing 67kph over the limit and claiming you didn't know you were going that fast is ****ing ridiculous

renegademaster · 09-10-2014 11:47AM

kneemos wrote: »

Everybody has speeded at some point,don't get the outrage?

she's never broken the speed limit in her life, said so in court and sure why wouldn't a judge take that as being a fact.

porsche959 · 09-10-2014 11:48AM

Mars Bar wrote: »

In America, your car is impounded if you are caught doing over a 25mph. The fines are huge also. That speed should be one thousand euro at least.

You made this up, didn't you?

ALiasEX · 09-10-2014 11:48AM

"I have never been speeding before, although I do drive my mum's car a lot, so you never know."

bear1 · 09-10-2014 11:49AM

kneemos wrote: »

Everybody has speeded at some point,don't get the outrage?

I think the outrage is that yes most of us have probably sped in our lifetime but to get away with it with easily due to honesty is rubbish.
They should re-evaluate the laws and fines in this country. Not that one rule applies to some and other rules apply to others even though the exact same law was broken.

Micky Dolenz · 09-10-2014 11:50AM

bear1 wrote: »

Apparently no points were given. Just the fine.

I don't think the judge ever mentions PP, as it's a RSA thing. she will most probably get 4 points once the RSA are informed of the speeding conviction.

rich.d.berry · 09-10-2014 11:53AM

I did 79 in a 60 and got €750 fine and 3 points. I didn't pay admission of guilt. I had changed address so never got the fine in the post. I did attend court and offered no excuses as I should have updated the address in time. Hardly seems fair though, does it?

bear1 · 09-10-2014 11:53AM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

I don't think the judge ever mentions PP, as it's a RSA thing. she will most probably get 4 points once the RSA are informed of the speeding conviction.

Ok my bad then. Usually you will see it written how many points were given and as it wasn't mentioned then I thought that the judge gave a fine and arrivederci.

Micky Dolenz · 09-10-2014 11:53AM

bear1 wrote: »

Ok my bad then. Usually you will see it written how many points were given and as it wasn't mentioned then I thought that the judge gave a fine and arrivederci.

I only know through bitter experience

Laois6556 · 09-10-2014 11:54AM

It seems that you can get away with anything if you're pretty.

I certainly do because I'm gorgeous.

187kph and only gets fined.

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