Ebola virus outbreak

Gael23 · 08-10-2014 08:58PM

hmmm wrote: »

It's a she, and she presented the quarantine order. The original patient was vomiting blood all over the place when he was removed from the apartment.

Well in that case it was more than preventable. It's not her fault that's he has effectively been handed a death sentence all the same.
Btw, Thomas Duncan is being cremated.

Smidge · 08-10-2014 08:59PM

hmmm wrote: »

It's a she, and she presented the quarantine order. The original patient was vomiting blood all over the place when he was removed from the apartment.

So her only contact was presenting the order?

Streetwalker · 08-10-2014 09:01PM

Red Pepper wrote: »

I give up, best of luck surviving til Xmas folks.

Eh so you aren't answering my question then?

08-10-2014 09:03PM

hmmm wrote: »

It's a she, and she presented the quarantine order. The original patient was vomiting blood all over the place when he was removed from the apartment.

SR Srgt Michael Monnig , Male

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/08/patient-frisco-ebola-suspect/16922477/

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Frisco-Investigating-Possible-Ebola-Case-278555081.html

FullblownRose · 08-10-2014 09:23PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Flu causes between 3000 and 49000 deaths per year in the US alone

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/us_flu-related_deaths.htm

Should we all be panicking over that as well?

I'm not saying we should ignore ebola, it's obviously a concern, but tone it down a notch lads.

Who's panicking in the first place?

Smidge · 08-10-2014 09:25PM

FullblownRose wrote: »

Who's panicking in the first place?

I think the vast majority of people in this thread are doing what they would do in any other thread. Discuss the thread topic.
Isn't that the point of a thread?

ceadaoin. · 08-10-2014 09:26PM

hmmm wrote: »

It's a she, and she presented the quarantine order. The original patient was vomiting blood all over the place when he was removed from the apartment.

The original patient had been in the hospital for a couple of days, maybe more, when the quarantine order was put in place. This officer had no direct contact with him. I'm pretty sure they were referring to a he at the press conference?

I remember at the time a deputy was complaining about being ordered into the apartment with no protective gear. I wonder if it's the same one. Poor guy.

Also, the reason they had to order quarantine was because the family were leaving, sending their kids to school and accepting visitors into the apartment. If he did get infected by virus particles in the apartment or by the family members then chances are others did too.

At least this time, they have brought the patient straight to hospital and have sealed his car for decontamination and sent in the hazmat people to deal with that.

Smidge · 08-10-2014 09:27PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Flu causes between 3000 and 49000 deaths per year in the US alone

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/us_flu-related_deaths.htm

Should we all be panicking over that as well?

I'm not saying we should ignore ebola, it's obviously a concern, but tone it down a notch lads.

Is that to everyone on this thread?

08-10-2014 09:27PM

FullblownRose wrote: »

Who's panicking in the first place?

I agree, discussion does not equal panic.

Back on story, heres an interview regarding the Sergeant and his wifes fears.

"That starts putting question marks in your mind," Sgt. Monnig said. "You know when you go home and then the next day you start hearing that equipment is being quarantined or asked to be bagged up, that you had on or were driving.

"Then your question is, 'well, what about me?' And so those were the questions that were raised."

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/03/lisa-monnig-michael-dallas-cdc-ebola-sheriff-dyer/16672385/

08-10-2014 09:34PM

I lived in Dallas for many years, and one thing that could be a problem is people trying to help.
Any sort of a crisis and they are there at your door offering to help. I bet that Deputies wife has people bringing food over as I type

Birroc · 08-10-2014 09:59PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

The two above, mostly. I should have quoted rather than making a blanket statement though.

Check out WakeUp's posts if you want a good laugh.

KERSPLAT! · 08-10-2014 10:04PM

MOD

Birroc, don't post in this thread again. You had a warning and then an infraction, if you can't play nice you can't play at all

ProfessorPlum · 08-10-2014 10:42PM

Jake1 wrote: »

I lived in Dallas for many years, and one thing that could be a problem is people trying to help.
Any sort of a crisis and they are there at your door offering to help. I bet that Deputies wife has people bringing food over as I type

Very neighbourly Texans, I've a few friends who been beneficiaries of lasagnes and apple pies. But they're probably just leaving them on the doorstep this time.

realweirdo · 08-10-2014 11:17PM

I just hope a year from now, we aren't asking "why didn't someone do something sooner?"

This has the potential to be the number one threat to global peace, security and nation's economies if left unchecked. It really calls for a massive international effort to get it under control in West Africa, and the quicker the better.

As for panic, there's nothing wrong with some constructive panic and more urgency in confronting the problem. In Sierra Leone and Liberia the epidemice seems to be out of control. And the only way Ebola has been contained in the past was when most if not all victims were tracked down and isolated. That's not happening now.

08-10-2014 11:22PM

The others deputies who worked with Monnig now reported sick CNN

Smidge · 08-10-2014 11:37PM

Being reported that Norway(which we knew), Sweden, the Netherlands and Germany treating repatriated Ebola sufferers.

realweirdo · 08-10-2014 11:44PM

Smidge wrote: »

Being reported that Norway(which we knew), Sweden, the Netherlands and Germany treating repatriated Ebola sufferers.

This is a massively risky approach as we saw with Spain. If they can contain it in an isolation unit great. But if it gets out of there, then containing it may become impossible. I just hope they know what they are doing. It just takes one mistake from one person to take it out into the public as happened in Spain.

08-10-2014 11:45PM

I can imagine the Irish hospitals treating an Ebola patient on a trolley in the corridor of A&E for a couple of days while waiting for a bed to become available.

youtube! · 08-10-2014 11:48PM

Of course the really scary part of contracting this virus is not necessarily that you will die a horrible death because with proper medical care a healthy person has a 60-70% chance of survival, no the scariest scenario is that the system will become so inundated with victims that it will not be able to cope with all the patients presenting for treatment, this is why it is absolutely crucial that we do not allow it to spread throughout the general population, how we achieve that however is the 64 million dollar question...

Smidge · 08-10-2014 11:54PM

realweirdo wrote: »

This is a massively risky approach as we saw with Spain. If they can contain it in an isolation unit great. But if it gets out of there, then containing it may become impossible. I just hope they know what they are doing. It just takes one mistake from one person to take it out into the public as happened in Spain.

My question would be this.......
How many are they going to repatriate?
Initially, this seems like they have it under control etc as its 1 patient.
Do they continue to repatriate if the numbers of their citizens who contract the virus increases?
Is there a cut off point as to the numbers?
Seems a risky road to go down all right

JONJO THE MISER · 08-10-2014 11:59PM

Jake1 wrote: »

The others deputies who worked with Monnig now reported sick CNN

And how many people have they interacted with and arrested that they could spread it too.
Lax is not the word.

realweirdo · 09-10-2014 12:05AM

They showed some of the British soldiers on the news going through the routine of taking off their protective suits. It seems a very complex operation. Remove suit, wash gloves, remove mask, wash gloves, etc etc. It just needs one false move to infect yourself. I think the spanish nurse forgot to wash her gloves before removing her mask or something like that. If everyone follows the process, the risk of infection is low. If one person forgets a step, then it puts a load more at risk.

mug_holder · 09-10-2014 12:08AM

anyone who owns stock in airlines may want to sell as if it gets worse , airline travel will be effected

if it gets much worse , i hope the goverment is prepared to halt immigration or travel from africa , the labour party and the irish times wont like it but liberal sensibilities will have to take a back seat in an emergency

nyarlothothep · 09-10-2014 12:29AM

I wonder what these deputies were doing inside the house to get infected so easily? This strain could quite possibility be extremely virulent. They should put measures in place to lock Dallas down. That post about the hundreds of thousands of coffins being prepared, the camps etc mentioned earlier, it's all very worrying.

0byme75341jo28 · 09-10-2014 12:29AM

mug_holder wrote: »

anyone who owns stock in airlines may want to sell as if it gets worse , airline travel will be effected

if it gets much worse , i hope the goverment is prepared to halt immigration or travel from africa , the labour party and the irish times wont like it but liberal sensibilities will have to take a back seat in an emergency

I don't see why that has to be done, just sounds racist to me.

Call Me Jimmy · 09-10-2014 12:30AM

Are we still living in an age where if you contracted this disease they can't give you the option at any point to end your life?

mug_holder · 09-10-2014 12:32AM

Avalynn Microscopic Rocker wrote: »

I don't see why that has to be done, just sounds racist to me.

Better see the country wiped out than to risk being labelled a racist eh ?

Political correctness is an illness

0byme75341jo28 · 09-10-2014 12:33AM

mug_holder wrote: »

Better see the country wiped out than to risk being labelled a racist eh ?

Political correctness is an illness

And racism makes me sick.

mug_holder · 09-10-2014 12:34AM

Avalynn Microscopic Rocker wrote: »

And racism makes me sick.

You'll live

cdoherty86 · 09-10-2014 12:36AM

mug_holder wrote: »

Better see the country wiped out than to risk being labelled a racist eh ?

Political correctness is an illness

Absolutely, I think it a matter of urgency we invite every Ebola victim to Ireland for treatment so we don't appear racist as The Prince of Cumberland has said.

Ebola virus outbreak

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