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Dublin City marathon

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  • #572
    Bahanaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭Bahanaman


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    19 days out and the weather forecast madness has started already! :eek:

    All part of it!!!!! :D


  • #573
    dublin runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭dublin runner


    It's Dublin in October. Expect rain, wind and cold and you won't be disappointed.

    Though I do have a sure fire way of telling the weather come race day. It's very controversial (banned in several countries) and some might not like the obscene nature of this revolutionary tactic.

    Here it is.
    On race day, just before you are about to eat breakfast, try this. Look out the bloody window and dress appropriately!! Simples!


  • #574
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    I'm always surprised by the amount of people out in tights, gloves, hats, etc. once the temperature drops even slightly. Unless it's a couple degrees below freezing you'd soon warm up on a run anyway.


  • #575
    TheTubes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭TheTubes


    “You need a singlet, short-sleeve technical shirt, long-sleeve technical shirt, a half-zip thermal shirt, a 100-weight fleece pull-over, a weather-proof running jacket and a down parka. OK, maybe you don’t need the parka, but everything else should be in your gear bag.” — John Bingham on packing for a fall marathon


  • #576
    RayCun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    TheTubes wrote: »
    “You need a singlet, short-sleeve technical shirt, long-sleeve technical shirt, a half-zip thermal shirt, a 100-weight fleece pull-over, a weather-proof running jacket and a down parka. OK, maybe you don’t need the parka, but everything else should be in your gear bag.” — John Bingham on packing for a fall marathon

    Sure, if your plan is to walk it


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  • #577
    TheTubes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭TheTubes


    RayCun wrote: »
    Sure, if your plan is to walk it


    I think the point is to be prepared and have the option of weather appropriate clothing, not to wear all of them.


  • #578
    RayCun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    TheTubes wrote: »
    I think the point is to be prepared and have the option of weather appropriate clothing, not to wear all of them.

    This is Dublin. It's not going to get that cold.
    If you are running you will get warm soon enough.
    Lots of people make the mistake of dressing appropriately for the start line - long sleeves, jackets, lots of layers (and race number on the outside layer) - instead of dressing for how they will feel during the race.
    Bring warm disposables for the start line. Bring warm gear for the finish line.
    Dress to race in between.

    Bingham advocates lots of walking in marathons. If you do that, and its a cold day, you need to wear warm clothes. If you're running you don't.


  • #579
    adrian522
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,493 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Shorts. T-Shirt. Shoes.


  • #580
    RayCun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    adrian522 wrote: »
    Shorts. Singlet. Shoes.

    fyp :)


  • #581
    Ososlo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    RayCun wrote: »
    This is Dublin. It's not going to get that cold.
    If you are running you will get warm soon enough.
    Lots of people make the mistake of dressing appropriately for the start line - long sleeves, jackets, lots of layers (and race number on the outside layer) - instead of dressing for how they will feel during the race.
    Bring warm disposables for the start line. Bring warm gear for the finish line.
    Dress to race in between.

    Bingham advocates lots of walking in marathons. If you do that, and its a cold day, you need to wear warm clothes. If you're running you don't.
    I thought that read warm beer initially:D


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  • #582
    adrian522
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    RayCun wrote: »
    fyp :)

    I don't actually own a singlet so that's out.


  • #583
    tunguska
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    TheTubes wrote: »
    I think the point is to be prepared and have the option of weather appropriate clothing, not to wear all of them.

    I think regardless of the weather its always best to dress light and minimal. If its unseasonably warm(which it was in 2010) you're good. If its cold you're good, If it rains you're still good. It absolutely amazes me when I see people dressed to the nines at the startline of a marathon.
    Its madness..........Compression tights, shorts over compression tights(should be shot for crimes against fashion for that one alone) compression top, long sleeved T-shirt over compression top, gloves, hat, I-pod on arm, headphones, batman-like utility belt with water bottle, gels and all sorts of **** you dont need. One of the funniest things I've ever seen was a lad, loaded down with all of the above setting off for a warm-up, doing some strides or whatever. So hes running up a street, not paying attention to what hes doing but constantly pulling at and adjusting the belt when.......smack! Runs straight into a parked car........gels and all sorts went flying all over the road. Took him like 10 minutes to gather all his gear together and compose himself again.
    Ridiculous


  • #584
    dublin runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭dublin runner


    tunguska wrote: »
    I think regardless of the weather its always best to dress light and minimal. If its unseasonably warm(which it was in 2010) you're good. If its cold you're good, If it rains you're still good. It absolutely amazes me when I see people dressed to the nines at the startline of a marathon.
    Its madness..........Compression tights, shorts over compression tights(should be shot for crimes against fashion for that one alone) compression top, long sleeved T-shirt over compression top, gloves, hat, I-pod on arm, headphones, batman-like utility belt with water bottle, gels and all sorts of **** you dont need. One of the funniest things I've ever seen was a lad, loaded down with all of the above setting off for a warm-up, doing some strides or whatever. So hes running up a street, not paying attention to what hes doing but constantly pulling at and adjusting the belt when.......smack! Runs straight into a parked car........gels and all sorts went flying all over the road. Took him like 10 minutes to gather all his gear together and compose himself again.
    Ridiculous

    Totally agree. Less is more. You'd never see any of the elites/sub-elites/decent club runners with any of that.

    -You don't need water-belts. Water is provided every two and a half miles. Why lose all that weight in training only to carry around unnecessary water/gear.
    -Gels? Plenty of shorts have pockets. If yours don't there plenty of time to perhaps adapt your shorts to accommodate some.
    -You most certainly don't need iPod etc. Even on Sunday I was running with a decent runner wearing headphones. No point saying hello. It'll ruin the race day atmosphere. Plus it's dangerous.

    All you need extra is perhaps a waterproof sh!te top you can throw away when the race begins.

    Running is a very simple sport. Keep it simple. Less to go wrong that way.


  • #585
    RayCun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Hat and gloves from Penneys you can at least take off and throw away after a mile if you want.
    But what do you do if you're wearing a t-shirt over a compression top, and your number is pinned to the t-shirt? What do you do with your 50 euro jacket?


  • #586
    RayCun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    adrian522 wrote: »
    I don't actually own a singlet so that's out.

    ... but ... but ... what about your club singlet? :confused::confused:


  • #587
    echancrure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭echancrure


    dublin runner wrote: »
    -You don't need water-belts. Water is provided every two and a half miles. Why lose all that weight in training only to carry around unnecessary water/gear.

    I am taking mine, but I won't be putting water in it.


  • #588
    dublin runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭dublin runner


    echancrure wrote: »
    I am taking mine, but I won't be putting water in it.

    Water belt with no water? Isn't that just a belt? :). If it's for gels etc. fair enough but I could never see the benefit in strapping water to your waist. I tried it once years ago. I got 300m from the front door before returning home and getting rid.


  • #589
    chinguetti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭chinguetti


    echancrure wrote: »
    I am taking mine, but I won't be putting water in it.

    Ditto for me. Wore my belt with water bottles in 2011 and at the first stop, as they didn't have the water ready at the first set of tables, someone took one of the bottles out of my belt.

    The zip pockets are handy for gels but the water bottles ain't worth the hassle.


  • #590
    adrian522
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    RayCun wrote: »
    ... but ... but ... what about your club singlet? :confused::confused:

    Well, hopefully I'll have a club and a club singlet before too long. January at the very latest.


  • #591
    Toblerone1978
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Toblerone1978


    dublin runner wrote: »
    but I could never see the benefit in strapping water to your waist.

    I read in a previous post that you should for DCM because of the chaos at the water stops. Which makes sense to me.


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  • #592
    AuldManKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Toblerone1978 wrote: »
    I read in a previous post that you should for DCM because of the chaos at the water stops. Which makes sense to me.

    Only really chaos at the 1st one - but who wants water then?
    The rest are fine.


  • #593
    yaboya1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Toblerone1978 wrote: »
    I read in a previous post that you should for DCM because of the chaos at the water stops. Which makes sense to me.

    Surely the pacers (especially the 3:40 group) will pick some water up for you at the first one to save you the hassle, won't they? :pac::pac:


  • #594
    Gavlor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    Surely the pacers (especially the 3:40 group) will pick some water up for you at the first one to save you the hassle, won't they? :pac::pac:

    Sure I will.....







    Me hole


  • #595
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    Surely the pacers (especially the 3:40 group) will pick some water up for you at the first one to save you the hassle, won't they? :pac::pac:

    I can't speak for all the pacers but I always offer water to my pacees for anyone who missed out.

    Water in a pacing group generally gets shared anyway.


  • #596
    yaboya1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    I can't speak for all the pacers but I always offer water to my pacees for anyone who missed out.

    Water in a pacing group generally gets shared anyway.

    I remember the pacers I followed in DCM 2010 (3:30) handing out bottles after the station going up Chesterfield Avenue. Funnily enough, I think you may have been one of them?


  • #597
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    I wear a belt that will hold 6 gels. Took a little getting used to, but it doesn't chafe or move around, so it's a compromise I can live with. As for racing apparel, it's a vest only, regardless of the weather. For a marathon, especially DCM, I would be keen to stay warm up until the start, so I'll do the binbag thing. I have plenty of tee-shirts I can afford to throw away, but it's more the extremities- like arms and hands- that need minding, so a bin liner will do the job fine.


  • #598
    ger664
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,411 ✭✭✭ger664


    You dont need to sip/slug 500ml of water before the start and skip the first water station. Otherwise join the hoards of tree lovers in the park


  • #599
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    ger664 wrote: »
    You dont need to sip/slug 500ml of water before the start and skip the first water station. Otherwise join the hoards of tree lovers in the park


    I saw loads of people in the park at the RS 5/10/half events necking water, eating bananas and mars bars, drinking coffee and tea. Lord only knows what they have before the marathon. A 3 course meal?


  • #600
    Kop On
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭Kop On


    davedanon wrote: »
    I saw loads of people in the park at the RS 5/10/half events necking water, eating bananas and mars bars, drinking coffee and tea. Lord only knows what they have before the marathon. A 3 course meal?

    If that's what gets them through the race them fair play to them.

    Same goes for water belt/ non water belt. What works for some people doesn't for others but there is no right or wrong answer to what you should or shouldn't eat or wear.

    Wear the clothes or gear you've worn during the LSR's and eat similarly.


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  • #601
    Rantan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭Rantan


    Kop On wrote: »
    If that's what gets them through the race them fair play to them.

    Same goes for water belt/ non water belt. What works for some people doesn't for others but there is no right or wrong answer to what you should or shouldn't eat or wear.

    Wear the clothes or gear you've worn during the LSR's and eat similarly.

    Sorry kop on - I don't agree with you...for my first couple of DCM's I went overboard with pockets & bottles full of "stuff" which ultimately is readily available on course. You really only need gels to carry with you IMO. If you look at the effort required to carry extra weight in "stuff" and the potential impact on your time you would prob change your mind. its funny how people spend months trainnig to loose weight and train hard for the race and then think nothing of replacing that weight in water bottles etc!
    Also I think its worth bearing in mind that during LSR's you are training whereas on the day you are racing(or should be trying to any way...) so you don't have to recreate exact LSR conditions..OK, for your first one its diferent where you need to learn how your body copes etc.


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